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Nolanar posted:From the looks of things, I guess regions without their own franchises generally default to "Steelers fans" or "Cowboys fans" depending on some arcane formula. I do like the voids where people presumably don't watch football (or don't answer surveys), and how certain fandoms stop dead right at the state line. Mostly Cowboys fans. EDIT: Whoops, that link was already in the original post.
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Andy Impey posted:Does this ring true? I like how much of the Upper Peninsula is Packers territory and how Hawaii is apparently hardcore Steelers country. And how the Jets have just one small segment of Long Island where their fans dominate This is most certainly a thing, it's even a stereotypes that Yoopers are treasonous Packers fans. This has a lot to do with distance, of course, as Green Bay is a lot closer to much of the UP than Detroit is. Also, since the UP was essentially cut off from the rest of Michigan for much of the year before the Bridge was built it makes sense that they're culturally more connected with Wisconsin in some ways.
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Kavak posted:Not even Oakland supports the Raiders. That's just sad. Oakland supports the Raiders but the rest of Alameda County apparently doesn't. Or at least they don't talk about the Raiders on Facebook.
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Just prior to independence the irredtentist movement in Macedonia was hinged upon the remaining Ottoman territory in the Balkans prior to the first Balkan War. All maps showing "ethnic" or "real" Macedonia basically show the Ottoman territory of Macedonia. That map here shows that. There were claims on Alexander the Great but it was second to righting the wrongs of the "injustice" done during the Second Balkan war where Macedonia was "ripped apart by invading forces". Independence in the early 90s was seen as the first step to unifying all the remaining parts. The whole antiquisation and glorifying of ancient history pretty much gained strength as a result and as a response to Greece. Greece at that time claimed that all things Macedonian as Greek and that Tito invented the ex-YU Macedonian ethnicity as a way to destabilize Greece. There was also the embargo embargo Greece imposed on Macedonia. The embargo was pretty much done to convince Macedonia to change its name. It was pretty poo poo living there during that time. There was literally nothing going well in the country and the elimination of subsidies and major trade partners with the dissolution of Yugoslavia forced the country into complete poverty. And yeah, those are pretty much ideal conditions that lead to grandiose nationalistic delusions. I can say that then, and especially now, most Macedonians view that whole antiquisation and building of giant statues of Alexander as an embarrassment and terrible ways to spend money. Most don't care about being descendants of ancient Macedonians but they also think Greece are assholes. There is also a feeling that have been calling themselves Macedonians long enough that, Alexander the Great or not, they don't want to give in to Greece. Macedonians just want to be able to enter NATO and the EU if they are able without Greece cockblocking them all the loving time. To Macedonians, Greece's veto power in those organizations means that Macedonia cannot have a non poo poo actual European future and that they'll be stuck in being so very, very Balkan. In the pejorative sense of the word Balkan and all the baggage that it entails.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Have you noticed the GOP is all but dead at the state level in California? Well, political entrepreneur and Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone has and plan to do something about that! No, it's not "treat Hispanics with dignity." It's a secessionist movement! Behold, the glorious state of South California: Lycus fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Feb 9, 2013 |
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Lycus posted:No no no, San Bernardino did not agree to this poo poo. Well look, how else are you going to link Orange County with Kern County while ignoring all the people in LA? Speaking of which, according to the Football map, Kern County are Cowboys supporters. Even if succession is off the table I think we know what place to kick out of the state.  Also apparently Alpine County are fans of the Bears? That's pretty much all forest and mountains, what's up with that?
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Soviet Commubot posted:This is most certainly a thing, it's even a stereotypes that Yoopers are treasonous Packers fans. This has a lot to do with distance, of course, as Green Bay is a lot closer to much of the UP than Detroit is. Also, since the UP was essentially cut off from the rest of Michigan for much of the year before the Bridge was built it makes sense that they're culturally more connected with Wisconsin in some ways. The best description of the UP that I've heard is that it's a foreign country heavily populated with Americans. Having visited more than a few times now, I think that's pretty apt.
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Andy Impey posted:Hawaii is apparently hardcore Steelers country. Mostly because of Troy Polamalu (who is of Samoan descent) and Chris Fuamatu-Maʻafala (born and raised in Hawaii) I think.
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Red_Mage posted:There was almost a war over this proposed state: A portion of my wife's family lived in Franklin and was one of the families to help start it. Basically, the State of North Carolina had no way of providing any kind of protection for them from dangers of the frontier (Cherokee, lost British soldiers, etc), so they actually tried to just take some land and start their own central government. When they weren't accepted as a state (they named it Franklin in hopes of securing the sympathies of at least one certain founding father), they proclaimed a republic. Eventually NC decided they didn't like that and took it and the rest of their territory west of the Appalachians and made Tennessee, which the US government recognized and most of the Franklin residents were happy with this(John Sevier, a Franklin sympathizer, local resident, and colonel at the Battle of King's Mountain, became the 1st TN governor).  More family history related to politically-charged stuff: on my dad's side, we are related to Roger Williams, founder of Providence Plantations, which Rhode Island residents should recognize as a controversial partial-name for their state (Williams was a theologian, not a plantation master, so the term's erroneous. Another fellow founder was female theologian Anne Hutchinson). I know RI has tried to change their name to eliminate the "Plantation" part in recent years due to the negative connotations. I've never been able to find a map showing the division in RI (if it really exists). I know the area around Portsmouth was included, as was Providence.
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De Nomolos posted:More family history related to politically-charged stuff: on my dad's side, we are related to Roger Williams, founder of Providence Plantations, which Rhode Island residents should recognize as a controversial partial-name for their state (Williams was a theologian, not a plantation master, so the term's erroneous. Another fellow founder was female theologian Anne Hutchinson). I know RI has tried to change their name to eliminate the "Plantation" part in recent years due to the negative connotations. Considering there never were slave plantations in Rhode Island, this is incredibly stupid.
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A map of undersea cables that power the internet Linked for huge. The article says that we're only using about 20% of the network's total capacity, but I'm sure that varies by market and peak times. The US and the west are not surprisingly the biggest consumers of bandwidth. http://www.fastcodesign.com/1671777/infographic-the-550000-miles-of-undersea-cabling-that-powers-the-internet#1 Link to zoomable map: http://submarine-cable-map-2013.telegeography.com/
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dr.gigolo posted:A map of undersea cables that power the internet Who owns those cables, and who keeps them in working order?
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Sucrose posted:Considering there never were slave plantations in Rhode Island, this is incredibly stupid. Also a Rhode Islander, and the controversy is pretty dumb. At the time it was named, plantation just meant a place where trees, crops, etc. were planted rather than naturally occurring. The idea of using slave labor for farming in New England is laughable on its face anyway, since why the gently caress would you want to feed, clothe and house your labor force year-round with such a short growing season? What are you going to have them do over the winter, shovel snow?
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In spirit of Eastern Europe: Jobbik's wet dream in Hungary.PNG)
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Someone's taken Balkan nationalist maps to their logical conclusion.   More here: http://geocurrents.info/place/europe/mega-nationalist-fantasy-maps-of-the-balkans
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lil sartre posted:GREATER ROMANIA 
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WreckSov posted:Who owns those cables, and who keeps them in working order? I think they're all owned or co-owned by various telecom companies and they're maintained by various telecom companies or subcontracted out to companies like Tyco's SubCom. It could vary depending on the country though. Another Israel is Gaza, West Bank and Golan heights map, now with rocket travel times. From one of my favorite blogs, Strange Maps  http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/587-maps-as-war-by-other-means
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ThePutty posted:In spirit of Eastern Europe: Jobbik's wet dream in Hungary Huh? How does a Hungarian nationalist group justify taking Croatia? Eastern Europe Catholic solidarity? Or is it just "gently caress it, we need a port"? Protocol 5 posted:Also a Rhode Islander, and the controversy is pretty dumb. At the time it was named, plantation just meant a place where trees, crops, etc. were planted rather than naturally occurring. The idea of using slave labor for farming in New England is laughable on its face anyway, since why the gently caress would you want to feed, clothe and house your labor force year-round with such a short growing season? What are you going to have them do over the winter, shovel snow? The name is certainly something that only the older generations use (like my 90 year old Grandmother). I'm sure it was the consequence of someone from outside coming in during the culture wars of the 60s, seeing that, and thinking "PC FORCES...ACTIVATE!" so they can make themselves feel "enlightened." It's really, really dumb. It's like people who don't like the Native American names for teams but also won't let high schools be the "Warriors" instead because "some warriors were also Native Americans." Never mind that it's a universal term. De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 9, 2013 |
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De Nomolos posted:Huh? How does a Hungarian nationalist group justify taking Croatia? Eastern Europe Catholic solidarity? Or is it just "gently caress it, we need a port"?
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Protocol 5 posted:Also a Rhode Islander, and the controversy is pretty dumb. At the time it was named, plantation just meant a place where trees, crops, etc. were planted rather than naturally occurring. The idea of using slave labor for farming in New England is laughable on its face anyway, since why the gently caress would you want to feed, clothe and house your labor force year-round with such a short growing season? What are you going to have them do over the winter, shovel snow? Lets just remind ourselves a huge proportion of the atlantic slave trade was through Rhode Island and a large number of the cutesy palatial estates and manors that still exist were built on profit from selling other humans before we get all flippant about it 
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Jacobin posted:Lets just remind ourselves a huge proportion of the atlantic slave trade was through Rhode Island and a large number of the cutesy palatial estates and manors that still exist were built on profit from selling other humans before we get all flippant about it It was given the name by an abolitionist, though. I mean, Rhode Island is the only of the colonies with a genuinely benevolent origin.
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eSports Chaebol posted:It was given the name by an abolitionist, though. I mean, Rhode Island is the only of the colonies with a genuinely benevolent origin. Was Maryland the one that was all "Catholics and Jews can come here!" (I'm guessing so due to the name)
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Can you explain this one a little bit? Why did the Japanese mess up the U.S. and Central America so much while everything else is pretty much intact? I think it looks like it might be some sort of WWII era propaganda though.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Can you explain this one a little bit? Why did the Japanese mess up the U.S. and Central America so much while everything else is pretty much intact? I think it looks like it might be some sort of WWII era propaganda though. They also call Canada "Faraway Land" and Argentina "Neue Karlsland" EDIT: Good job talking about a creepy rear end anime. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Feb 9, 2013 |
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There's no reason a mercator projection needs to use the conventional north-south earth axis. 
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computer parts posted:Was Maryland the one that was all "Catholics and Jews can come here!" (I'm guessing so due to the name) Maryland was chartered as a colony for Catholics.
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Dusseldorf posted:There's no reason a mercator projection needs to use the conventional north-south earth axis. Africa will devour us all! 
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Can you explain this one a little bit? Why did the Japanese mess up the U.S. and Central America so much while everything else is pretty much intact? I think it looks like it might be some sort of WWII era propaganda though. This is a very strange map. It is pre-WWI, as evidenced by the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires most notably, and is for the most part highly accurate. However, North America is completely outrageous, and WTF is that island in the middle of the Pacific? Edit: I guess I would suppose that it is a copy of a Western map which had been damaged/incompletely copied, and then the rest was filled in from memory, or some such. And maybe they found a little map of that island in the Pacific somewhere and decided it had to belong :p archaeo fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Feb 10, 2013 |
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It's from an Anime. That said, Japanese world maps were pretty hilariously behind the times before they opened up in the mid 19th century. For example, here's a Japanese map of the world from ~1850. It resembles European maps of the world from about 300 years earlier. 
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WreckSov posted:Who owns those cables, and who keeps them in working order? It varies. http://www.submarinecablemap.com/ gives a nice interactive map. You can click on individual lines, like say alaska united east that runs the closest to the alaska/ canada shoreline and it gives the owners and a URL: http://www.alaskaunited.com/ . I don't think they are all so good but that URL does a decent job explaining the route, how they prevent line breakages, etc.
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Jacobin posted:Lets just remind ourselves a huge proportion of the atlantic slave trade was through Rhode Island and a large number of the cutesy palatial estates and manors that still exist were built on profit from selling other humans before we get all flippant about it P sure the slave traders arrived long after the name was bestowed, unless there were some secret Puritan slave traders selling slaves to colonists that secretly snuck over to North America long before everyone else.
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Dusseldorf posted:There's no reason a mercator projection needs to use the conventional north-south earth axis. Jesus Africa, you really let yourself go
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