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Stefu posted:
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A Buttery Pastry posted:To be fair, they didn't actually try for the "Maximalist" idea. The Continuation War really was just an attempt to take back the land they had lost in the Winter War, not one of those insane nationalist projects which floated around in Europe in the 20th century. Well yeah, I wasn't being 100% serious, although the bolded part isn't strictly true. The goal of the offensive phase was to take and hold the so-called three-isthmus line, which you can see 2/3rds complete, quite far beyond the pre-1939 borders. There was quite a bit of nationalist project tied up in the war too.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Were they actually planning to annex those territories, or were they just bargaining chips for negotiations with Stalin though? The latter is the story I've always been told/have read, but of course anti-Communist and nationalist rhetoric might have mislead me. The goalposts and the rhetoric shifted during the war. In 1941 there was genuine, although not unanimous, hope in the government and the parliament for German victory over the Soviets and the annexation of eastern Karelia. People of Russian heritage in the occupied areas were gathered into camps to wait for deportation. After Stalingrad was a done deal, making peace on the pre-Winter war borders became the government's goal.
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Mayor Dave posted:Is there any sort of modern integration movement for Karelia anymore? Karelian refugees who occasionally remark wistfully how sweet it would be to walk on their old yard again is pretty much it.
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