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Even Bill Ferny gets hit with the “swarthy” tag then he palls around with a “slant-eyed southerner.” It was disappointing on a recent rewatch of the movies how closely Jackson stuck to these trends with the men of the east/south (or even exaggerated them) so any adaptation that tries to alleviate them is good in my book.
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Elves are NOT weak like the race of man. Elves are about *opens The Silmarillion* uh oh *Frantically starts flipping though pages* uh oh. oh no. no no no. uh oh
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Mar 27, 2022 21:55
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euphronius posted:You can try this one https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-prancing-pony-podcast/id1082170831 These guys are the only way I got through The Silmarillion, can recommend.
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Mar 28, 2022 14:57
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I’m re-listening to LotR and there are a lot of funny moments I forgot about. The idea that Sauron sends orcs to Rohan to steal only their black horses is cracking me up. I suppose aesthetics are important to one who used to be so fair.
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Apr 5, 2022 13:32
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Interestingly, it also appears in his translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight: https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/tueyhq/thrice_pays_for_all/i34dz96/
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Apr 9, 2022 03:30
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Imagined posted:Who were the three dwarfs who left the Shire with Bilbo in book 1? If they were just in the other room packing while Bilbo and Gandalf were having the whole discussion about giving up the Ring, does that mean they heard all of that, too? Apparently they were named Nar, Anar, and Hannar in a draft version of that passage that appears in History of Middle-Earth Vol 6 but the names were later scrapped. Whether they overheard anything is anyone's guess. Bag End is pretty big.
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Apr 10, 2022 16:19
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Imagined posted:Is there any more than the line in Book 2 about how Galadriel attempted to have Gandalf as the head of the White Council, when, or why? Not much, this is from "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age" in The Silmarillion: quote:Ever most vigilant was Mithrandir, and he it was that most doubted the darkness in Mirkwood, for many deemed that it was wrought by the Ringwraits, he feared that it was indeed the first shadow of Sauron returning; and he went to Dol Guldur, and the Sorcerer fled from him, and there was watchful peace for a long while. But at length the Shadow returned and its power increased; and in that time was first made the Council of the Wise that is called the White Council, and therein were Elrond and Galadriel and Círdan, and other lords of the Eldar, and with them were Mithrandir and Curunir. And Curunir (that was Saruman the White) was chosen the be their chief, for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old. Galadriel indeed had wished that Mithrandir should be the head of the Council, and Saruman begrudged them that, for his pride and desire of mastery was grown great; but Mithrandir refused the office, since he would have no ties and no allegiance, save to those that sent him, and he would abide in no place nor be subject to any summons. But Saruman now began to study the lore of the Rings of Power, their making and their history. So Gandalf was actually offered the job and turned it down, making Saruman v salty.
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Apr 14, 2022 20:38
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Re-record it with Fran Drescher instead I'm begging you
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Apr 21, 2022 15:45
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I’m at the part of my RotK relisten where Legolas sees a seagull and it breaks his brain. Everyone else got these wild prophecies from Galadriel but she just tells Legolas “don’t go near the ocean lol” then he hears a seagull and goes “ ah gently caress, my brain!” I get why it happens to elves but it still makes me chuckle a bit.
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Apr 27, 2022 04:21
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Yeah, making Legolas stoic eye candy and Gimli a bumbling goofball was certainly A Choice. I enjoy the films and the soundtrack slaps but they really messed with some (most?) of the characters.
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May 18, 2022 22:32
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I like their story as told in the RotK appendix but I also like pretending Elrond said “yeah you can marry my hot, old daughter… if you’re the king of the whole world” as a kind of goof then he loving does it. I guess that’s too close to Thingol though. I guess that’s the big difference: they both set a seemingly impossible bride price but Elrond actually
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Jun 2, 2022 12:28
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Yeah, he only tells his boys about the prophecy. He even only hints at it to Éowyn. He knows what he’s doing and has seen their impending doom if he doesn’t stop the corsairs. If the horse lords could have mustered more and more quickly then they might have beaten the orc host prior to the arrival of the black ships but that wasn’t gonna happen.
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Jun 4, 2022 20:53
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I assume there’s some kind of elvish ring bearer group chat where they plan this cryptic stuff. No one responds to Saruman in the white council chat anymore and he knows what happened.
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Jun 5, 2022 04:05
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keep punching joe posted:What are the stars in Tolkienverse? They seem to function the same way, there's descriptions of constellations and individual stars that match with our own (Northern hemisphere), and Aragon I think mentions that the stars in the South are different. one of them is just some guy on a space boat
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Jun 29, 2022 17:59
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Imagined posted:I realize that throwing shade on heroes is very on-brand for Gandalf, but I never caught before that he calls Theoden "Theoden the Old" straight to his face, and as far as I know he's the only person in the book to refer to do Theoden by that title lol It’s a good goof to summarize the history of Rohan as “all the years from Eorl the Young to Theoden the Old”, classic Bad News Gandalf
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Jun 30, 2022 13:56
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Is Sauron hot he's wreathed in flame
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Arc Hammer posted:Something I've wondered, what is Viggo shouting when he jumps off of the Seat of Seeing and crashes into the Uruk Hai? Was he proclaiming "Ëarendil!" or something as a war cry? Pretty sure he's yelling "Elendil!" which is one of his classic war crys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzO1f1s4Bs8&t=155s
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Jul 18, 2022 16:02
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“shall prove but mine instrument” strikes again
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Jul 19, 2022 12:25
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It's better than Fatty Lumpkin at least 
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Jul 21, 2022 18:45
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Hugo Weaving was also a lovely Elrond, they’re just continuing the tradition.
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Gresh posted:I think the best way to watch the trilogy is: FOTR: Extended --> TTT: Extended --> ROTK: Theatrical This is what I did for my last rewatch and I gotta agree. I missed seeing a few things but it was already long enough.
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DontMockMySmock posted:you don't see how turning a spider into this: that is indeed how i see all spiders, yes
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Aug 19, 2022 01:08
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I totally bounced off it in high school
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Aug 24, 2022 22:37
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gotta wait for the sexy ungoliant spinoff show
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I'm just running through random lines and they all work in his voice. No exceptions. I will not let the Hwhite Citaaay fall... nor our people fail!
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Sep 21, 2022 16:18
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I went to a marathon showing this spring and it was a blast! It ran from about 11am to 11 pm. They did a short “afternoon tea” break in the first gap (went and got a coffee) then an hour gap for dinner before return of the king. They ended up doing extended editions for the first two and theatrical for RotK but I think that was for the best. It was a long day but a ton of fun. I also had a few beers during the last one so I really felt the “you bow to no one” line 😭
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The fan edit that gets them down to one four hour movie is pretty good.
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Sep 27, 2022 12:15
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I listened to the audiobook for The Hobbit as a wee lad then bounced off LotR when I tried to move on. Ended up reading LotR in high school and loved it, then immediately bounced off the Silmarillion. Got back into the Sil as an adult and enjoyed it a lot thanks to the Prancing Pony Podcast. I now own HoME after getting a good price on it and am ready to bounce right off!
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Nov 17, 2022 19:13
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I like the Rob Inglis singing, very Catholic hymn-like as previously observed. A good fit for old Tollers.
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Nov 20, 2022 18:45
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Arc Hammer posted:Shall we beat to quarters, sir? Would you rather fly on the back of Gwaihir or Landroval? I’d choose Landroval, for as Ilúvatar’s instrument you must always choose the lesser of two eagles.
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Deptfordx posted:Actually, nobodies answered my question yet. Just listen to the 5 minute sample and decide for yourself? https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Hobbit-Audiobook/1705009050
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Phy posted:They didn't use the Eagles because they broke up, and nobody's gonna take the ring to Mordor in the back of Glenn Frey's van Of course not, they'll use Eomer's sweet van.
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Oracle posted:He was chosen to fail, though. You say so yourself. 'Presented with a moral challenge they have no ability to overcome.' He was set up for failure. The only thing that saved him was his choice to show mercy to Gollum and not let Sam kill him. If he hadn't done that, there would have been noone to stop him at the end. Lots of foreordained free will vs. omniscient hand of God stuff here. 
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time to post bigring
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Pham Nuwen posted:My college roommate had a mug about that size. As for what to put in it, his answer was generally "five cans of beer". I have a 1L stein from a trip to Munich which holds ~3 normal bottles of beer. I don't use it often but I do enjoy telling my wife that I'll be having just one drink tonight.
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samcarsten posted:huh. I heard Tolkein was a die-hard catholic, so i expected there to be more god in his books There’s a good quote about this in Letter #142 to his Jesuit priest friend: quote:The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism.
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VictualSquid posted:Sorry, but the MtG set is the best adaption of the Lord of the Rings we have had until now. Because all others were cowards: would
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keep punching joe posted:I do own it, but have never managed more than a page or two before giving up. Am I doing wrong? I bounced off it twice before reading along with the Prancing Pony Podcast.
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skasion posted:For real. He’s going to get into a melancholic yet poetic mood and probably say “Ai!” a lot. Legolas can see/hear the stones of Eregion lamenting the genocide Sauron did there a cool 4500 years ago. hearing the thoughts of Mordor stones would absolutely send him one of the funniest moments in lotr is when legolas sees a seagull and suffers irreparable damage
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keep punching joe posted:The faramir changes still get me mad to this day. That and making Aragorn a reluctant leader, like the dude knows who he is in the book, he's all action. Movie Faramir and Denethor are just awful, such a bummer because I love them both in the books. I like the ride of the Rohirrim in the movies but the scene in the books where Eomer thinks Eowyn is dead sends shivers down my spine: quote:...he looked at the slain, recalling their names. Then suddenly he beheld Kaysette fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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