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OPAONI posted:I think the art direction, costuming, and score are all basically perfect, even if I agree about the Pelennor Fields ought to be orchards and farmland not.... empty plains. I don’t remember farmland in Rohan either. It's as if the Shire supplied the entirety of Middle-Earth with maize and tomatoes. And cabbages. And carrots, sausages and whatnot.
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Dec 17, 2021 19:13
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skasion posted:If they don’t do anything then yes they will lose. But the wise guys believe that winning is possible if they do the right thing. Defeat is evitable as long as they have faith that God’s got their back. Despairing certainty of Sauron’s victory is a bad thing that paralyzes people. It’s a literal weapon Sauron uses against his enemies, like the wraiths overflying Minas Tirith to break the spirits of the defenders. It's the old heroic trope, of fighting on even if there is no hope left at all, but from a Christian viewpoint. You don’t have to do it for honor or because you swore an oath to do so, you have to do it because maybe, just maybe, God will intervene.
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Dec 19, 2021 13:41
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HIJK posted:Just finished my Christmas FOTR rewatch, extended edition. I think Fellowship is the roughest of the films, especially the extended version. The scenes don't always transition into each other well, and there's weird decisions like adding slo-mo for dramatic effect. I don't think the movie really comes together until they see the statues. Best thing about the whole fight sequence is John Rhys-Davies whaling on the stuntmen with his axe.
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Dec 26, 2021 10:56
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:In the books Theodon wasn’t under some magical spell that he needed to recover then from. He was just essentially locked away from the real word by a duplicitous advisor who had worked hard to isolate him from anyone else.
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Dec 29, 2021 18:54
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Pham Nuwen posted:Speaking of hobbits in the Shire, give me a movie that's just 3 hours of Frodo, Sam,  and this time the smiley's name is appropriate because he's a huge Tolkien nerd
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Dec 31, 2021 02:00
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah most of the bad decisions (elfs in helm's deep, fangorn being very stupid, faramir, denethor as callously incompetent, theoden being an arsehole etc) are mostly trying for something reasonable. many changes are straightforwardly good, and most of the cast condensation was very well executed. changing from the red arrow to the beacons was imo appropriate, for instance. cutting the weirder non-critical parts like tom bombadil or ghân-buri-ghân was also probably for the best. they hit more than they missed with the adaptation, even if they made a few too many concessions to hollywood convention in my view For some of the cut content they still put in little easily missable details, like the trolls after Weathertop, the pucel-man statues at Dunharrow, the Silent Watchers at Cirith Ungol etc. Unfortunately many of them only made it to the extended cut.
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Dec 31, 2021 23:22
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webmeister posted:Wow, Strider is a super lovely nickname to give someone with no feet He was called Trotter then, because of his wooden feet. No, seriously. … efb 
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Jan 5, 2022 01:58
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WoodrowSkillson posted:if Sauron had made The One Ring a cockring, no one else could have worn it
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Jan 22, 2022 23:27
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Arc Hammer posted:Beleg is second only to Finrod as well as friends of Men go. Called out Morgoth himself to single combat, and even when he was beaten hurt him so much that the big coward never left his fortress again until he was dragged out by Tulkas kicking and screaming? Hell yeah.
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Jan 23, 2022 21:18
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NikkolasKing posted:I used to post on a big scifi forum and inevitably whenever Tolkien's environmentalist ethics in LOTR came up - or for us man-children, the entire Artemis Fowl series - people would get all pissy and defensive. "Tolkien thinks we're bad because we chop down trees. But we NEED to chop down trees! gently caress your trees!" Aulë posted:Nonetheless they will have need of wood.
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Jan 28, 2022 21:17
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Toebone posted:That’s not how Old Man Willow saw it
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Jan 31, 2022 12:31
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Southpaugh posted:They better not have put gurthang in the show. Plot twist: Narsil was actually Gurthang, Telchar stole it from Turin’s grave and reforged it. Apparently that meteorite consisted of really low quality iron, poo poo keeps breaking.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:03
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Tree Bucket posted:Over in the other Tolkien thread, a poster is describing the challenge of translating LotR for Chinese family members. The best bit of the whole thing is their translation of Theoden King; he becomes: Link, please? E: also now I'm picturing Saruman on his balcony going KHAAAAAAN! Zopotantor fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Feb 11, 2022 |
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Feb 11, 2022 12:53
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galagazombie posted:It's hard to imagine a Ringwraith showing up one day in some Easterling Kingdom saying your taxes are due. Why not? It’s like Darth Vader suddenly showing up on your backwater planet, and he likely would have a lot of heavily armed guys recruited from the last place he went to.
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Feb 11, 2022 13:22
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A Moose posted:I mean, the Rankin Bass Lord of the Rings wasn't exactly good, but people still watch it. The bar is not high. Just needs to be better than the Hobbit movies The Bakshi LotR was good enough that Peter Jackson stole from it wholesale.
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Feb 11, 2022 22:01
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Here it is actually being sung (by Bill Nighy): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWBecwqNGkM
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Feb 15, 2022 22:15
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Ginette Reno posted:I just want weirdo mystical lotr. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKf-83NSigM&t=10s
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Feb 17, 2022 20:48
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Mr. Grapes! posted:This is pretty cool. Is there an easy accessible collection of other Tolkien artwork like this from LOTR? Pictures by J.R.R.Tolkien was finally re-released last year.
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Mar 24, 2022 07:49
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But Ëarendil is Venus!
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Mar 31, 2022 21:24
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Oracle posted:There's no umlaut, totally different name. That's a diæresis. Fun fact: The original German translation spelled it "Eärendil", which is an umlaut in German.
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Apr 1, 2022 17:24
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Runcible Cat posted:Yeah, the Fortress of Evil in Time Bandits is the ideal of Barad-dur as far as I'm concerned. Now I'm picturing Sauron turning people into adorable dogs.
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Apr 2, 2022 20:02
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Imagined posted:I know Godzilla's iconic screech/roar was made from the sound of something scraping a metal cable, and the blaster sounds in Star Wars were made from plucking them. The Balrog's growling before it first appears was made by dragging a cinderblock on concrete (also mentioned in one of the comment tracks).
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Apr 22, 2022 11:51
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Kaysette posted:I’m at the part of my RotK relisten where Legolas sees a seagull and it breaks his brain. Everyone else got these wild prophecies from Galadriel but she just tells Legolas “don’t go near the ocean lol” then he hears a seagull and goes “ ah gently caress, my brain!” I told you about gulls bro, I warned you dog!
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Apr 27, 2022 22:02
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Imagined posted:Also it feels like neither the books and especially not the films (we don't talk about The Hobbit movies) use the fact that he's literally a prince at all. It's just mentioned once in passing and then is never relevant again. Particularly thought it was weird when Gimli says "Do you think your halls are fair, where your king..." 'Your king'? Oh, you mean 'my dad'?? Perhaps that's because Gimli at this point has accepted that Legolas is not such a bad guy, but he still thinks of his father as "that rear end in a top hat who put Dad into prison."
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May 19, 2022 11:16
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Turin was much less of an rear end in a top hat than Kullervo.
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May 28, 2022 21:48
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Imagined posted:So how many cliff faces overhung with waterfalls falling into a pool below are there in Ithilien that just blindfolding people on the way there would prevent them from finding it again or telling someone else where it is? It might work if the waterfall itself is shielded from view, e.g., being in an enclosed valley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U5Wa8igaDs&t=705s But of course, with flying Nazgûl running air reconnaissance, that wouldn't last forever.
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Jul 13, 2022 18:10
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Pham Nuwen posted:(I still say give the Elves Finnish accents, cowards) The High Elves, sure. Welsh for the Sindar, though.
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Jul 14, 2022 19:27
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Arc Hammer posted:It's not cynical, mind you. It's just inevitability. Having a fatalistic view of the world doesn't mean you resign yourself to pain and suffering, it means you focus on your purpose in life and how you live it. You might not live in the golden years of the world and you might die of sickness or old age, but you make drat sure you live your life as best you can and hold the darkness of entropy off for a little while longer. I always have been fond of Hávamál posted:It befits a man to be merry and glad
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Jul 15, 2022 19:58
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Nessus posted:I suspect this may come from before Lovecraft, as Lovecraft was not well known outside of the niche press in America when Tolkien was writing. However I suspect Tolkien could well have read Lord Dunsany and Arthur Machen, who were both big influences on Ol' Racist Howie. Tolkien definitely read Dunsany, he referenced "Chu-Bu and Sheemish" (from The Book of Wonder) in a text quoted in Letters, #294. His poem The Mewlips also reminds me strongly of some of Dunsany's tales, like The Hoard of the Gibbelins. Lord Dunsany posted:… and the tale is one of those that have not a happy ending.
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Jul 16, 2022 23:01
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Oracle posted:Queen Berúthiel would like a word with you. She (and the cats she used to spy on people) was bad though.
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Jul 23, 2022 20:09
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I actually really like the idea that Saruman just walked with Gandalf up to the top of orthanc then ducked back down the stairs and locked the door. IIRC that’s basically how that scene plays out in the Bakshi LotR. e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnt094Z5Rg Zopotantor fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Jul 25, 2022 20:40
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MrMojok posted:That draft kind of makes it sound like what he was envisioning was a Bakshi-type balrog The Balrog shows up later in the Bakshi movie in some stills illustrating Gandalf's narration of their fight, and looks much cooler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgHjCWeFd0
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Jul 26, 2022 18:39
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Imagined posted:Hand-drawn animation is one of the most ball-achingly expensive, time-consuming, hardest forms of production ever conceived. Even a company with the size and talent pool of Disney found it onerous. It's no surprise that almost invariably anyone smaller than that who tried it either went bankrupt, had to cut corners and scale back their ambitions, or both. You forgot to mention outsourcing to North Korea.
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Jul 26, 2022 20:41
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ChubbyChecker posted:so valinor is like australia or siberia, and the king just exiles unwanted people there Didn’t have the rights?
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Runcible Cat posted:In other Silmarillion news there's an edition with Tolkien's own illustrations out in a couple of months: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-silmarillion/j-r-r-tolkien/christopher-tolkien/9780008537890 Lol, those "media reviews" are word for word the same as on the back of the 1979 paperback. You'd think that in 43 years there would have been a few more reviews.
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Sep 3, 2022 14:38
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Arc Hammer posted:I doubt Finarfin would have fathered Finrod before Finwë fathered Feanor. Forsooth.
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Sep 3, 2022 14:48
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I figured out who the Stranger is. He's the Maia of the Moon, Tilion, and we witnessed the origin of the myth that became Frodo's song in the Prancing Pony.
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Sep 4, 2022 12:03
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Hammerstein posted:This is brilliant. I knew about the Chef bit and about the wagging leaves, but that last bit… The Carroux translation is one of the better ones overall, she actually consulted Tolkien about a lot of the names.
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AJA posted:Stop ruining my cul-de-sac joke That is actually what Bag End is called in the French translation (at least the old one, I haven't read the supposedly better new one).
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