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When the Elvensmith first heard Sauron pronounce the incantation on the Ring, was it in Black Speech too?
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It's kind of funny how, despite its centrality, there's so little information on the whole poem. We don't know who came up with it in-universe outside of the "One Ring" part, nor when it happened. Also lol: https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ring_Verse posted:J.R.R. Tolkien has said that he first thought of the Ring Verse while taking a bath.[6]
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Jan 10, 2024 19:13
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Imagine a history of the Hobbits written in the style of the Silmarillion. "Mighty was the swing of Bandobras..."
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Jan 27, 2024 08:24
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He was just Beorn this way.
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Feb 7, 2024 07:16
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Alhazred posted:With the most adventurous woman in Middle Earth. Or the most adventurous bear.
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Feb 8, 2024 19:40
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Men's ultimate fate is to be plugged into Arda 2 while Eru creates another race to start the cycle anew.
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Feb 15, 2024 12:29
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Pham Nuwen posted:the goddess of being 16 and posting in your livejournal also broke up with the band to start a solo career
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Feb 15, 2024 23:28
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I wonder how many elements in The Hobbit+LotR could be considered knockoffs of something grander within the Legendarium. The Arkenstone's the Great Value Silmaril, Sauron and Morgoth, Aragorn and Arwen vs Beren and Luthien, etc.
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Feb 16, 2024 13:44
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The story of the Prequels is the story of the fall of the Jedi Order. Yoda being a failure was kind of baked in. The Second Age isn't specifically about Galadriel's failures. She was there, but what is described of her involvement seems to put her in a more contrarian role. But then again some of the elf lords ought to have been played for fools by Annatar, and she's relatively power hungry compared to her peers so it's not unreasonable to have her be flawed, even if the series' interpretation is a massive stretch. Hell, she feels very inconsistent even as her own character. Anyway the elf who should have been the focus of Sauron's deception/weird romance attempt was Celebrimbor, obviously.
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Feb 20, 2024 19:09
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DeimosRising posted:The dudes from Hokkaido? This gets more and more confusing That's why no Men could sail to the West to meet them: you'd just run into America.
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Feb 21, 2024 21:47
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There was a temple and Eru-worship in Númenor before Sauron corrupted it but that doesn't seem to extend to the Free Peoples in general. The Elves know for a fact the Valar are real so they'll occasionally have gestures of respect, especially if it's one they're genuinely fond of like Varda/Elbereth, along with invocations for important events like marriages. They don't seem to have a clergy - if anyone, I'd expect elven lords and such to be the ones to assume that role if needed. There's even less information on what Men do but it seems to be a vaguely similar deal (Faramir has a gesture toward the west before meal), which makes it seem like their customs derive from the Elves, at least among the learned. And of course, we don't see much of the lower classes in general, which might have entirely different practices. It's part of the idealized worldbuilding I guess. God's existence is beyond question and piety is quietly expressed through a righteous life.
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Feb 22, 2024 17:42
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I figured "Durin's Bane" was either a generic term to describe the mysterious disaster that caused the fall of Moria, or something Gimli made up on the spot. I don't think they even suspected it was caused by a specific individual monster. They agree it's a dangerous place because there was a thriving community there that suddenly disappeared, and because it's right in the middle of a mountain range crawling with orcs and other creatures. Doubt any of them expected something that bad was down there, though both Legolas and Gandalf recognize it when they run into it.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:30
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more like Mauron
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Feb 27, 2024 19:45
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How did they know it would work, was there a 10th Nazgûl?
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Feb 27, 2024 23:18
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I feel like if you don't specifically turn into a wraith from the slow corruption of a Ring of Power you don't get to join the club. They'd have the Barrow-Wights babysit him or something.
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Feb 28, 2024 00:09
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's not exactly going to be tricky to suss out that the legendarily wise rulers of the four remaining Elven-realms in Middle-Earth are the most obvious choice to hold the Three, especially since at least three of them have some sort of magical effect acting on or associated with them (and the Grey Havens might, even if we're not really told about it). Interesting, but Thranduil as a suspected Ringbearer feels strange to be honest, he always seemed to be of lesser standing than the others, both in ancestry and in his domain being more corrupted.
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Feb 28, 2024 21:14
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I like the notion of Tolkien nerds passing parodies around like it's forbidden knowledge.
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Mar 1, 2024 07:37
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One, Gandalf needs to be whiter, angrier, and have access to a magic horse. Two, whenever Gandalf’s not on the page, all the other characters should be asking 'Where’s Gandalf?'
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Mar 8, 2024 07:18
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zoux posted:You know for years I had Joesph Campbell mixed up with Joesph Conrad so I thought the whole heroes journey thing was written by the guy who did Heart of Darkness. I was like, that book doesn't follow any of his own rules I was the same with Campbell and John W. Campbell. zoux posted:It's interesting all the ways that LotR violates the "rules" of fiction writing they teach you in creative writing classes. How do you mean?
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Mar 8, 2024 17:47
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Aragorn explaining what the hell is going on is important both for gaining the Hobbits' trust by speaking candidly, and for getting them to understand how little room for error they have now that Gandalf is missing.
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Mar 13, 2024 09:07
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Denethor and Saruman fell to Sauron Derangement Syndrome
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Mar 14, 2024 21:27
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Hobbits were the original cottagecore guys
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Apr 24, 2024 16:09
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Isn't it literally a black pit tho?
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May 6, 2024 22:12
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Bernard Hill's Theoden is pretty different from book Theoden too but he's still one of my favorite movie characters. He's a good example of what the movies tried to do, where they accentuate his flaws to give him an arc so there can be further payoff later. And what a payoff it is. Movie Theoden is also one of the most conflicted and relatable characters in Two Towers + the first half of Return, where the Fellowship characters are kind of in a lull dramatically. Hill's performance does a lot to keep you invested during that part.
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May 7, 2024 22:10
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Turns out there was nothing supernatural about the Ringwraiths following Frodo by smell.
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May 8, 2024 22:04
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Carry the Ring Frodo, or Bilbo will have to do it again.
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May 16, 2024 16:59
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