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adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
What race of people is Sam Harris racist against? I'm not a huge fan of the guy and he's said plenty of dumb stuff but if you're going to criticize him or Dan Carlin for doing a podcast with him you should at least give a more nuanced criticism than that. I haven't listened to the podcast yet but I'm assuming Carlin isn't going to jump into the new atheist bandwagon with Harris. Besides, if you've listened to enough of the common sense podcasts you'd know Carlin has a huge man crush on Glenn Greenwald, one of Harris' arch twitter enemies.

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adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Malloreon posted:

If you listen to a little bit of Sam Harris you'll think he's vehemently anti-Islam.

If you listen to more of him you'll realize he's vehemently anti-Abrahamic religion in its entirety.

Sounds like racism!

- Ben Affleck, other guy in this thread, tons of lazy pc liberals.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Al-Saqr posted:

The problem here isn't dan carlin, the problem is that Sam Harris is a completely stupid racist piece of poo poo who tries to constantly sugarcoat his fake-intellectualist arguments. He's a charlatan who takes advantage of other people ignorance to make statements that if it was ever said about any other group (e.g. jews, African Americans,etc.) He wouldn't have a career anymore. I am really disappointed that Dan Carlin keeps entertaining this creep.

What race of people is he racist against again? Am I racist if I say that a religion where ants or a burning bush talk to people is dumb and anyone who believes this stuff really happened is dumb? I think throwing accusations of racism around like this devalues the word. Save it for the real racists please.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

WEH posted:

I dunno man lets add this up:

Sam Harris believes
-in torturing prisoners
-in rigorously profiling anyone who looks vaguely “muslim”
-that Islam is inherently a violent religion
-in casually berating people of any religious persuasion

Sam Harris should also
-stay out of philosophy

He's pretty much a lovely proto-dawkins with a side of martial arts

I agree with most of this although I think it's fair to examine a religion, including islam, and criticize parts of its scripture since quite a few bad things are coming from people being indoctrinated with a strict fundamentalist interpretation of it.

Or you could just be lazy and call him a racist.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Nintendo Kid posted:

People who ain't white.

I hate to break this to you but there are white Muslims, the group of people sam harris is accused of being unfair to.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Nintendo Kid posted:

He's also extremely bigoted against white muslims, as well as being racist as hell against everyone who isn't white. Sorry that he's your hero or whatever, but his ideas are poo poo and he's terrible.

Haha I don't even like sam harris I'm just marveling at the low bar being set for racism today I guess.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Nintendo Kid posted:

I did not know that being racist is a low bar for being racist. That seems a bit insane, friend.

Racist - Full Definition
1 :a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 :racial prejudice or discrimination

Can you provide evidence sam harris fits this bill other than he says mean things about islam, a multiracial religion?

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Rumda posted:

The point is in all three cases both behaviours are equally reprehensible and bringing up the difference as if it excuses the act is also scummy.

So if Sam Harris advocates profiling "Islamic looking people" it's the same to you as him leaving a burning cross in some black guy's front yard?

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Rumda posted:

No but it us the same as advocating leaving burning crosses in someone's back yard.

Lol holy poo poo.

Did you guys know that Dan Carlin interviewed Pat Buchanan for his podcast a few years ago? Let's race to find out how offended we are by that guy too.

Or we can stop being big babbies and stick to the topic.

adebisi lives fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jul 21, 2015

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
I think Dan Carlin might be the first person to compare isis to Mohammad Ali. I liked his point that terrorism is a problem that basically can't be solved short of a complete orwellian nightmare of a society and anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant or dishonest.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Haha Niall Ferguson is such a troll.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Dan Carlin must be deep in the hardcore history studio bunker since he hasn't had anything on Twitter in a while. If there was ever a news story to get him to release an episode of common sense it would have been the DNC email leaks.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Did they bring up the time Alex Jones infiltrated the bohemian grove? That's probably the most interesting thing Jones has done and I'd love to hear more about drunk Republican millionaires frolicking around the woods.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

webmeister posted:

"Clint Eastwood in the Batman sorta role" to describe Leonidas (I think?) was probably the worst of the lot

Actually that makes perfect sense because both have been in Zach Snyder directed films.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Jack B Nimble posted:

I think of myself as pretty conservative and the Shapiro podcast sometimes makes me sweat profusely and pull my tie, but yeah that's only sometimes, other times he's pretty good, it's mostly his format I don't like.

I'll check out the other suggestions, thanks.

Check out the cum town podcast. Good conservative political commentary with a comedic twist. They also request nazis pay 10 dollars a month on patreon instead of 5 for premium episode access.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
I highly recommend the history of of literature for something calm and relaxing to listen to while doing yardwork. My only grievance is that the Murakami episode was a let down since I've only read 1q84 and Kafka on the shore and the pod covered like everything but those two novels.

The Carlin addendum episode was good since they just dunked on half their own fan base that thinks nazis were left wing.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

The Romans come to mind. There really weren't very many popular revolts, most strife was from the ruling class or invasion. The Romans weren't a centralized monarchy though, even a thousand years after Augustus there were still some democratic institutions.

I guess it depends on whether you consider slaves part of the population because getting worked to death in a mine in Iberia wasn't a fun time.

Going back to Nicholas, another thing to keep on the scoreboard is that he was as responsible for world war 1 as anyone. Russia's stubbornness in how it mobilized and dragged its feet negotiating with Germany was one of the big dominoes that fell.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Chairman Capone posted:

Episode 9 of Blowback S2 comes down pretty heavily on "Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby were part of the CIA/Cuban exile movement" and that the Cuban exiles were the ones who had JFK assassinated.

I hope there's another episode on Watergate. Aside from Kennedy's brain turning into confetti, you could also link the bay of pigs and Cuban exiles to that. Nixon ominously did in his taped conversations, and several of the operatives arrested for doing the wire tapping were Cuban exiles.

Oliver Stone's underrated Nixon movie also explores this.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Sure bullets rattle around like that conviently, just ask the Warren commission :v:

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
This thread welcomes a diverse range of historical interpretation. There's even some people who've posted here that think Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin of JFK.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

Has he said if he's using all this material to write another book yet? I assume he's at least shopping one around.

Yeah I'm pretty sure he posted on twitter that he's doing a pre-history (or maybe up to bronze age collapse?) book next.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
This is the first post I could find about it

https://twitter.com/Patrick_Wyman/status/1605969890711519233?t=YoF9j2vzrPRfEakMlsJ0pg&s=19

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
Anything about baseball

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009
The social media blitz for the next season of blowback is really getting some traction

https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1684653947888267264?s=20

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

There's really no way to cover the US involvement in supporting the mujahedeen without first giving background on the Soviet invasion itself, so I feel like it'll be pretty apparent if they're aiming for objectivity or not then they cover that. I don't think there's really any way to say the Soviets were the good guys in that war, even if you understandably hate everything about the particular factions the US through Pakistan chose to support.

The soviets were trying to bail out the socialist government being attacked by jihadis the US and Pakistan were supporting well in advance of the soviet invasion. The radical agenda of the socialist government that was intolerable to the US was equality for women, universal education, and land reform.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

Rushing to defend the government by sending in spec ops to murder the president and his family was an interesting strat to be sure. Killing an order of magnitude more Afghan civilians than the US did in 20 years was too.

The president they killed purged a bunch of other socialists and was doing such a bad job the KGB was convinced he must be working for the CIA. I'm not going to defend the actions of the Soviet Union here but it's far more complicated than the evil red menace sweeping through a peaceful country to enslave a bunch of rustic farmers. The Soviets were more concerned that the US/Pakistan was going to turn the place into a launchpad for destabilizing the central Asian Soviet republics which isn't any more irrational or evil than domino theory and the US killing millions of people in southeast Asia and Latin America around this same time frame.

Sorry to spoil some of the more interesting plot points of the next season of Blowback.

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adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009

Samovar posted:

Does he still hold with 'genocide can be good, actually?'

Not in the new episode but there's a really good tangent on rogue waves

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