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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I don't think he sounded pro-monarchy, I think he was just acknowledging that the French Revolution was a giant clusterfuck that didn't turn out well for almost anybody involved.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Well, he did point out that the CIA was working on mind control for decades and only stopped (or said they stopped) because nothing they tried was working. I frankly would be surprised if there was no research being done on it. Whether it's possible or not who knows, but the idea that they'd want the capability if it's possible isn't much of a conspiracy theory.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Maduo posted:

Carlin seems to purposely try to slip out of political definition as not to alienate anyone, but if you had to pidgeonhole him I'd say left-leaning libertarian? He's pretty states rights-y, but also talks about the need for regulation in the financial sector. From the time I've listened I'd say his pet issue is privacy vs security. He had an "I told you so"-esque episode after the Snowden leaks started coming out.

This sounds about right. He also takes the time to have some idea what he's talking about :captainpop: and uses history a lot for understanding things. I find that even when I disagree entirely with him, his perspective is well-thought out and interesting so it's good disagreement. It's the kind of honest intellectual disagreement that barely seems to exist anymore. Even his occasional batfuck ideas are usually interesting, at least to me.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Yeah he's libertarian in the sense of people should have the maximum possible freedom within society and it's none of your business what people do with their lives, not in the sense of government should die. I remember that as small-L libertarianism but I don't know if that's still a thing.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I'm sure they've thought of that but part of the reason the shows are so much longer now is they don't have good pause points. He's really good at building a narrative and telling the story, and breaking it up would disrupt the flow of that.

I don't mind it, there are plenty of other good history podcasts nowadays, enough that I barely manage to keep up with the ones I like. I can't think of a bad HH episode so I'm fine with him doing whatever works for him.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I like the Haiti and Colombia choices because I know next to nothing going in.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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WEH posted:

I thought that the consensus was that Carlin is a libertarian wingnut and Common Sense more or less worthless compared to HH

He's definitely not a libertarian. I think he was a long time ago but now he supports things like universal health care.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Oh wow thanks. There was one I listened to a while back that died after 25 episodes or so, this is great.

E: Jeez eight episodes from prehistory to Tokugawa? That's a shame, I've been reading all early Japan stuff lately since most everything before 1600 gets ignored.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Quixotic1 posted:

eta of boxing reference?

3:21:00 was the first one. I had bet the first 15 minutes and was way off. Clint Eastwood came up first, then Darth Vader several times, then finally he got around to boxing.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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CharlestheHammer posted:

I haven't seen it but from what they describe it's just banal both sides are wrong trash.

It's not that. The only "both sides" thing I can think of is he thinks both parties are corrupt and benefit from institutionalized corruption, resisting change in order to maintain that system, which is just a correct statement. He doesn't like the Democratic party but he dislikes the Republicans a whole lot more.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Megazver posted:

Dan briefly mentions this on the new Rogan podcast.

Jesus it's three hours long. Is Dan on the entire time or can I skip part?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Thirding Ancestor's Tale is a great book.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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This is incredible.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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It's not uncommon in academia to just learn to read/write languages. In my classics program you were required to learn ancient Greek, Latin, and two modern languages from the list of English, French, Italian, and German. Nobody (except incredible nerds) learns speaking for Greek or Latin and it's also pretty normal not to learn to speak the modern language either, it's just to keep up with the published literature.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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The Dollop episode on Action Park is worth a listen.

It's not exactly educational but you'll enjoy it.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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History of Byzantium, of course. It's only up to about 1025.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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At least it wasn't tentacle porn.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I always prefer premodern. He likes steppe peoples so maybe... well, the fact that it's requested means probably not, but I'd love for a show about Timur's empire. Always gets neglected.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Spoeank posted:

If you impregnated a woman the first episode was released, there's a 50/50 chance you would meet your child first.

This is not a joke, btw.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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The documentation in the west in late antiquity also just isn't as good as it was earlier. It's harder to write a detailed narrative of that period.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Fooge posted:

If you're into Carlin's stuff, the back catalog is more of it. There's not a big style or quality change over the course of his output.

I enjoyed it, fwiw

I agree, if you like what you've heard you'll enjoy all of it. The only real change is the shows get longer and longer. Back in the early ones there are like 20 minute episodes.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm imaging a 24/7 livestream of history podcasters taking turns just rambling on unscripted about stuff from the past they know about for like 4 hours at a time.

I kind of want this now.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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History of Byzantium is real good. He is taking his time but I don't see that as a problem, there's a lot more detail than History of Rome had and I don't know why you'd be the sort of person listening to a multi-hundred episode history podcast but also not want depth and detail.

E: Also if you want to listen through to a natural pause point, right now would be a good time because he's still wrapping up 1025, at the end of Basil II. He's going to transition into the Turks and the Normans making their big arrival soon enough and start the next stage.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Appoda posted:

I'm up to the part in Revolutions where Mike is hawking his book, and he's forceful and amusing enough to never really get on my nerves. "Just buy it, it's really good, you'll like it, and I'll get to be a New York Times best seller! It's a win-win for both of us."

I didn't mind that either since he was having fun with it and deserves the success.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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buglord posted:

Yikes that’s the most gaudy cover art ever. The more I look at it, the worse it gets. But much like episode 1 I’ll probably listen to it 3 times :v:

His cover art is all incredibly bad and I kind of love it. Destroyer of Worlds is the album cover of the hardest core metal band at the Little Lord Fauntleroy School for Albino Hemophiliacs.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Anyone listened to the History of the Crusades podcast? Does her delivery ever get more engaging or is it this sleepy monotone forever? There's like 300 episodes so I'm willing to skip ahead if she figures out how to do this better. The later crusades are the ones I know less about anyway.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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The Taiping Rebellion is much more fun than the CCP anyway.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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History of Japan by Isaac Meyer is the big one. I wish he did more ancient Japan but he jumps around on all kinds of subjects.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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He already said he finished recording it I think. At the least he's in the process.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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From what I recall he's leaving it open ended and it'll be as many episodes as it needs to be. It isn't the last one because he was talking about Revolutions wrapping up in 2022, and I don't think the Russian Revolution is going to last that long.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I think he said he's not doing China or other Asian revolutions because he doesn't think he knows the history nearly well enough to make an attempt, which is fair enough. I dunno if he's including Iran or specifically thinking East/Southeast Asia. Cuba seems possible for sure.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Halloween Jack posted:

I'm a half hour into the Kim episode, he hasn't thrown any knives yet...

I've never listened to a podcast with anyone besides BR Myers who could pronounce "Juche" correctly

Oh there are like a hundred common words that he can't pronounce and it's one of the very few podcats where that annoys me. If your entire career is reporting about extremism and you can't pronounce "extremist", man.

The throwing stuff shtick comes later and yeah it's pretty boring doing long, long bits of visual humor on a podcast. There's not as much of it lately.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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420 Gank Mid posted:

Addendums were the current events/chat with Dan show iirc

No, that's Common Sense. Addendum is his shorter format history show.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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There's some stuff in the Roman Britain episode that is also popular myth more than history but I've enjoyed Fall of Civilizations too, binged most of it this week.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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No but you can buy his book if you want to give him money.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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I like Hardcore History but if what you want out of a podcast is a concise telling of events, yeah, go elsewhere. HH is more being at the bar listening to one of your history buds talking. Or more likely I'm the one who's on hour two of complaining about the term "Byzantine" but anyway. I enjoy it but totally get if you don't.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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"Civil war could never happen in America" is quite the spicy take given uh... previous events.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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There are lots that aren't though. It's still a good podcast if you skip the episodes about babies being polluted to death or whatever.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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Player FM is what I use. I don't think there's a download queue, if there is one I haven't needed to use it, but when you subscribe you can choose how you want it to download. So for like a history in order podcast you can set it to start with the first episode and download X episodes when you're on wifi, and it'll always keep X number of episodes ready for you.

E: To be clear subscribe to the podcast, Player FM is free.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

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It's always jokey so if you want no comedy I would not bother. But I'd encourage you to skip ahead to the Steven Segal episodes and see how you feel after that.

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