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ProFootballGuy posted:Don't get a second bachelor's. You can definitely learn enough on your own and through working low-end tech jobs, to get a baseline level of knowledge if you want to go on to get a graduate degree. You don't need a second bachelor's to go on to grad school, but applying based on what you've learned on the job is pretty much a waste of admissions fees. IMO, you need the rough equivalent of a minor in CS to really have a shot of getting in. Fortunately that level of coursework is pretty easy to complete online these days, so it's not an incredible burden.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2013 16:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:47 |
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Harry posted:Doesn't that require like 10 years of tests? Hey now, some people finish in eight.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2013 22:37 |
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Pollyanna posted:I've also been considering a CS masters as well, it's really great to hear that they're doable even if you don't have a CS BS. Does this apply to online MS programs? I know that OSU has an online program, and I was wondering if it was any good. There are CS master's programs that are designed for people without a CS undergraduate, but that's not to say that every CS MS is accessible.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2013 01:18 |
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Ragingsheep posted:Fake edit: the way I see it, experience is always vital and its easier to leverage that experience into finding another job later than looking for one as a fresh grad. This is absolutely true. Job hunting with a year or two of experience is radically different from job hunting fresh out of school.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 14:53 |
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Look for jobs using the keywords Stata, SPSS and R.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 01:47 |
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SQL is a pretty serious "minute to learn, lifetime to master"-type thing. There are tons of tutorials out there--and some of them are even good--but at some point it's probably worth reading up on the relational data model to understand why databases work the way they do.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 01:11 |
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Certificates in data science are very new, and no one really knows exactly how the job prospects are going to be (although it's probably good). The MS in stats is fine, especially if you can take a CS class or two along the way.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2013 18:43 |
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You don't need any further education to be an actuary, although you do need to pass the exams. It might not be a bad idea to sign up for the first one to see what you might be getting yourself into.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2013 03:14 |
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CFA is specifically for someone whose job is managing investments, so while you can take the exams, you're not going to get the credential without changing careers. If you're planning on staying in insurance, the various underwriter certifications might be appealing, and they're much easier than the actuarial exams. I know about the Chartered Property Casualty Underwriter path, and I think there's something similar for life. What about a non-MBA master's program?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 07:40 |
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MoosetheMooche posted:Is college a viable route for computer science? Note I'm in Canada, here college is usually for applied subjects like trades and such. Most jobs I've seen here seem to require a BA in computer science. I don't want to go to university again though, I like the co-op/work experience/apprenticeships that are offered in college programs. The US doesn't have the same distinction between college and university that Canada does. Here we generally refer to all bachelor's granting institutions as colleges. Our closest equivalent to your colleges are what we call community colleges.
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# ¿ May 22, 2014 19:11 |
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Penn State World Campus is a branch of Penn State, so you're at least not dealing with a for-profit school.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 22:43 |
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What are you doing now and what would you like to be doing in the new field?
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2014 03:18 |
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What classes have you taken, and what other classes would you have to take to finish out the math degree?
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2014 19:29 |
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mobby_6kl posted:-/+ Would need to stick around a bit, but could use the time to finish my degree I'm assuming that you're talking about a bachelor's degree here. For every other career path you're discussing, having a degree is either a significant advantage or effectively necessary. It's going to make such a huge difference in your job search that finishing it really should be your top priority.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2014 03:21 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Yeah I effectively dropped out just a few credits short of completing it and due to various reasons never managed to go back. So now I'm thinking to take this position as my current role no longer helps me long-term anyway, complete the degree, and jump ship. Makes sense? That sounds like a reasonable plan. If you're getting tuition assistance from your employer, you may be under some obligation to stick around for some time or pay it back, though, so look into that.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2014 19:34 |
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posh spaz posted:That's a really interesting article. I have a friend in Silicon Valley. He's pretty well connected and could probably open some doors for me, but I find most of that culture as offensive as Wall Street in the 80s. The people who are going into SV now are the people who would've gone into Wall Street back then.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 23:37 |
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If you're not set on leaving academia, one option you might want to consider is looking at some of the various bridge programs that are aimed at training non-business PhDs in various business fields. There your prospects for getting a tenure track job are much better--in fact, in some fields, there are more openings than there are graduates. Florida has one and there are a few others out there. If you are definitely looking to get out of academia, you should look into data science bootcamps that will teach you more along the lines of python, SQL and data analysis. A friend of mine did Insight, and it's worked out very well for her.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 21:53 |
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There are other programs out there, so Google around a bit.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 23:19 |
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What was your master's in, what kind of work experience do you have, what sort of skills did you have before your breakdown, and what do you like to do?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 23:42 |
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A help desk position could be good if it gives you more time outside the office to work on what you actually want to do, but yeah, it's probably not going to lead to a development job through any official pathway. QA can if you get involved in scripted testing, but even that's a little tricky.
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# ¿ May 27, 2016 00:18 |
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Yeah, consulting's a good choice. The big four are always an option, but smaller shops are worth checking out too.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 04:30 |
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Can you sell it as an IT role?
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 15:06 |
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Take the master's and never look back. $35k total debt is fine for the sort of salary you're looking at after you finish, and in the field you're looking at, a master's has historically been the entry level degree. That's changing a bit, but not all that quickly.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 00:46 |
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How much debt would you pick up during the master's, and what's your expected first year salary?
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2017 14:54 |
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clam the gently caress down posted:Likely 20k for an LCSW or other master's program. Two years following, I would have work which was 60k or so, after licensure most get some boost. The rule of thumb I've heard and generally think is OK is that taking on less debt than what you expect to make in your first year after school is fine. It's only when your debt to first year salary ratio gets over 100% that you start running into trouble (and of course 99% isn't necessarily all that hot).
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 14:39 |
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, they're probably less than thrilled about losing out on a good hire because of their drug testing policy. As I understand it, insurance companies will charge lower premiums to workplaces that are designated drug free, so it might not even be something they want to do.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2017 20:06 |
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dead lettuce posted:I think it's more common in the medical and construction industries, since they don't want to discriminate between office workers and everyone else. The problem is that office workers/salaried staff are a lot more likely to be white than the other employees, and the DoJ takes a very dim view on anything that looks like racial discrimination, regardless of the intentions.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2017 21:18 |
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It sounds like your top priority is to finish your CPA as quickly and cheaply as possible. That's the credential that really matters , and the MBA is just a stepping stone to that. It sounds like you should go for it.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 00:05 |
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People understand that as a PhD student you're not making much. I wouldn't worry about that. I think the big question here is what your other options are. Do you have other good data scientists jobs that you're competitive for, or is this the only thing you've got in the pipeline right now? If the second one, how hard do you think it would be to get more options?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 20:00 |
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A is the guaranteed moderate payoff, whereas B is the higher variance lottery. I think it really comes down to how risk-averse and boredom-tolerant you are. Some things that might be useful to think about :
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:the "dangerous city" piece is kind of weird to me. Where is B? Mogadishu? Oakland, CA or Camden, NJ? The expressed concerns would be reasonable for either of those.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 01:09 |
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Can you get strong letters of recommendation that will speak to your ability to do research?
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 21:28 |
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Hemingway To Go! posted:I have a question: You might consider asking in the data science thread. You'll get the attention of some relevant people there who might not be watching this thread.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2019 01:06 |
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Is there any harm in asking?
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2019 04:22 |
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Imagine that it's a year from now, you've taken the job, and you're happy. How did that happen? If you can see a plausible story--or better yet, more than one--you should seriously look into whether you can make it happen. If not, you should probably say no. Just make sure your resume's up to date before you do.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2019 19:23 |
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Busy Bee posted:The company I work for just laid off a significant amount of it's work force. This seems like a pretty good reason.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 15:31 |
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Are we talking an "I'll never get any professional development"-style trainwreck, or more like "I cry in the bathrooms at work and hope no one notices"?
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 03:18 |
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If those are your only two options in your current city, you need to think pretty hard about moving. In the meantime, you could run into issues taking a job at this other company, but you shouldn't let that prevent you from applying.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2019 23:38 |
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The MBA doesn't open that many doors unless you go to a top 5, 10, or 20 school. Different sources disagree on where exactly the cutoff is, but no one's going to tell you that there's no point in going to Harvard, Stanford or Wharton.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 01:33 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:47 |
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If you ever decide to do a bachelor's, it'll be easier to transfer credits with an AA than it will be to transfer the same credits without one. It's definitely worth looking into.
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