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Mikan posted:Hey guys if you aren't paying attention to the June art contest you really should be Last Stand is seriously lacking in powers that let me command my own bug army against the enemy forces, Mikan. You should fix that.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:56
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You know, that's a good point. Now that I'm expanding the Monthly I think I've got more than enough room to cover the Bug Minions concept adequately. Let me get the Or Die Trying playtest packet done and I'll work on that. You can approximate it with the different drone powers right now but that's not quite the same.
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Jun 17, 2013 20:02
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The flipside is that work you do on this can serve for hirelings in ODT, gangs in Electric City and maybe armies in Youxia, too. e; and minions if anyone does a Fortune game where you're super-powered supervillains fighting superheroes. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jun 23, 2013 |
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Jun 17, 2013 20:13
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Any news on that Or Die Trying playtest? Or any of the other developers got news on their games? We haven't heard anything about Electric City or Youxai in a while.
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Jun 23, 2013 09:13
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Mikan posted:Hey guys if you aren't paying attention to the June art contest you really should be I really hope some other people enter - This is a genre I'm really fond of and I want to see what they come up with. A full week is plenty of time to for an entry.
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Jun 23, 2013 09:51
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Ceetee posted:Any news on that Or Die Trying playtest? Needs more monsters. I'm about 2000 words into it and I feel okay about the player powers, but the monsters haven't come together yet. I'm going to push ahead on it and see if I can't get it at least into layout today. I'm also going to pester PixelScum and MorsRattus about Electric City/Youxia.
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Jun 23, 2013 16:14
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The lack of news is actually a Good Thing, I've been working on it pretty hard. Warning: You may or may not get some totally sick tony hawk vibes from this poo poo.
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Jun 23, 2013 16:53
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Ceetee posted:Or any of the other developers got news on their games? We haven't heard anything about Electric City or Youxai in a while. I've been busy lately with grad school, so Youxia has been a bit on hold. We are working on a schedule of work for it, though, and I'm looking forward to getting a chance to sink my teeth into it again.
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Jun 23, 2013 17:27
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Box sets are finally happening  I'll have a big Kickstarter update about it once the prototype is on its way.This month's Monthly will be much larger and include not only the first of the mini-settings, but also base construction rules for Last Stand and some new monsters. It's going to be a free pdf or you can purchase a print copy. All the Monthlies from now on will be available in "magazine" format for folks who like physical copies.
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Jul 3, 2013 01:56
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I know a lot of folks will see this on G+ or twitter, but: Special Day Before Independence Day Last Stand Monster Time Is Go Now This introduces a new mechanic - Simplified Vermin. They don't have four stats, they just have a Power stat. Whenever they roll for an attack, add Power to it instead of one of the four stats. (They still pick which stat to target when they attack a PC, though.) This is great for Directors who find it rough to keep track of so many different monsters, and I plan to release a whole bunch of them so you can populate your battlefields with simpler monsters. The new powers are also perfect for players who like the Drones set of slotted powers. The Hive Giant Invader  Place the Hive one sector above the sector grid. The bottom two sectors of the Hive are not adjacent to the sector grid. Anyone with Flight may move from the sector grid to one of the two bottom Hive sectors or the other way around. Disruptor 6 Leader 3 Operative 4 Tactician 5 Special - The Hive may not move or be forced to move. Climbing - The Hive never throws anyone off. It’s pretty chill about that. Hoard 1/5 Disruptor They Just Keep Coming! Move. Place a number of Angry Hornets equal to the Hive’s current Hoard anywhere on the sector grid, then reduce the Hive’s Hoard by 1. (See below for Angry Hornets.) When The Hive’s Disruptor hits 0, place a number of Angry Hornets equal to the Hive’s current Hoard on the sector grid at the beginning of every round. When this happens, each player gains a token. Ripped: A cloud of Hornet Drones orbits you at all times. It’s kind of annoying! It keeps buzzing in your ear. Slotted: A cloud of Hornet Drones orbits you at all times. When you make an attack with the Slotted stat and roll doubles, you and the target both gain two Poison tokens. Tactician They STILL Keep Coming! Standard. Place a Bee Hive field effect in any sector. (Bee Hive field effect: When anyone in this sector rolls Collateral, place a swarm of three Stingers in this sector. These Stingers act on the next Invader turn.) When The Hive’s Tactician hits 0, it falls to the ground. Place The Hive anywhere on the sector grid. Anyone underneath where The Hive falls takes 3 damage and moves to an adjacent sector. Ripped: Your bio-armor is a living hive. It’s so gross. Slotted: Your bio-armor is a living hive. When you make an attack with the Slotted stat against a swarm and roll doubles, each vermin in the swarm also takes 1 damage. Angry Hornets Simplified Vermin (1 per group) HP: 1 Power: 4 Special: Angry Hornets have Flight. Gonna Take You For A Ride! When a Bio-Armor Agent defeats an Angry Hornet, they can leap on its back and steer it around like a vehicle. The Agent gains Flight for the next round. The Hive's Hoard increases by 1 each time an Agent does this.
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Jul 3, 2013 23:16
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That looks awesome, Mikan. Just a clarification question since you just broke the poo poo out of the encounter builder logic: I take it the Angry Hornet's "Gonna Take You For A Ride!" isn't a rippable power and more of a special rules thing? Are the other simplified vermin going to have rippable powers? I guess I don't see why not (or why they couldn't have multiple rippable powers to choose from), I'm just making sure before I rewrite the data structures (   ).Any other rules changes you'd care to share?
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Jul 3, 2013 23:47
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Yeah, it's a case by case kind of thing. The Angry Hornets are really more of an extension of The Hive (kind of a sub-power) than a threat of their own. Gonna Take You For A Ride! is a special rule more than a power. There's no reason you couldn't have a Simplified Vermin with eight or nine rippable powers if you really wanted (I am not going to do this). Most of them will stay simple though, a Power stat and one or maybe two powers. I think that's the only major thing though, you shouldn't have to worry about me breaking the encounter builder for a while.
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Jul 3, 2013 23:51
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How are the book shipments, I've sadly yet to receive mine yet but not sure if where I am counts as part of the US as we are not a state but are a territory.
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Jul 4, 2013 01:57
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Slowly progressing. I don't have my shipping list in front of me, but I know at least half of the books are out in the wild. Next week I'm going to focus on international backers, though I think the international box set backers are likely to get their books and the boxes at the same time at this rate. (Send me a PM or email with your backer/preorder details if you can, I'll see what's up.) The good news is that I expect box sets this month, at least. Mikan fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jul 4, 2013 |
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Jul 4, 2013 02:00
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Yea, I am from the US (Texas even!) and I still haven't gotten my book/cards yet! Hopefully soon though. Or you can just wait to send mine out with my box set if you didn't ship it yet, that's cool too.
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Jul 4, 2013 03:47
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I deliver the Texas books by walking from door to door. (Same, PM or email me and I'll see what's up.) Did I post about the box sets in here yet? I'm going to post a Kickstarter update once I'm closer to prototype in hand, but I'm placing an order soon and it has some neat stuff. Backer boxes will include a full quad-fold game board. The board has the sector grid, a Wide Open Skies sector, space for additional sectors and a Token Stash. There's also space on each of the corners to place player bribes. It also has a set of double-sided mats with new sectors, so you can change the appearance and terrain on the sector grid by laying those on top of the board. It also has 2d10, five player pieces (meeple, basically), about 70 Invader tokens (small tokens with invader art) and about 70 regular/special tokens (like On Fire, Poison, so on). The box itself will be signed, with the Last Stand logo painted onto the box top. Down the line I'll make the basic package (board, double-sided mats) available to non-backers. That way we can also do terrain expansion packs for each of the game lines, things like a coiled Jormungandr on one side of the tiles and Jotunheim Ruins on the other. Or different arenas for Electric City, new city blocks for Last Stand, all kinds of cool terrain.
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Jul 4, 2013 04:24
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Mikan posted:I deliver the Texas books by walking from door to door. (Same, PM or email me and I'll see what's up.) Any chance we could get some preview pics?
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Jul 4, 2013 05:04
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Once I've got them, yeah. I'll post the art (waiting on the mats, though I've seen it for the board) and then the prototype once it comes in. Printing and shipping takes a little while.
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Jul 4, 2013 05:05
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I showed the drone power to my drone player. He laughed at the flavor text of the ripped version, and liked the power. I personally, like how it fits in a middle ground between poison builds and drone builds, which is neat.
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Jul 4, 2013 05:18
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When I get bored and sleepy I tweet new powers, you folks who like new powers should follow me @tablehop . Here is a list of all the stuff I tweeted tonight:quote:Shark Bio-Armor: +2 Disruptor, +2 Leader. They obviously haven't been playtested as much as "official" content but if your Director says you can't use these powers I will argue with them on your behalf.
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Jul 8, 2013 05:48
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Mikan posted:Lost and Found You're a goofball. These are fantastic. EDIT: If Lost and Found isn't actually in Or Die Trying I will be mildly upset. It is perfect for that kind of loot-based game. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 8, 2013 |
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Jul 8, 2013 06:34
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Last Stand needs more meta-powers that require you to do things at the table.
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Jul 8, 2013 06:36
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Mr. Maltose posted:Last Stand needs more meta-powers that require you to do things at the table. You are going to love the base construction rules. There are a handful of facilities that exist solely to goad the Director into sending an invasion your way. Some of the facilities provide quality of life improvements: quote:Living Quarters - for each improvement to Living Quarters, players begin with an extra token at the start of each session. Some are direct combat upgrades: quote:Firing Range - increases the range on standard attacks - up to two sectors away. An upgrade allows one Melee keyword power per player with “Make an attack” to become Ranged, your sector or an adjacent sector. (An expensive upgrade!) And some are what I mentioned above: quote:Museum - Players can showcase a defeated giant invader in each Museum built. Looks really cool. The Director is required to write a glorious retelling of the battle, showcasing the heroism of the Bio-Armor agents. An upgrade to an individual Museum requires the Director to also illustrate the battle. Bases will be in a print supplement for Last Stand and are a great tool for folks who want to run long campaigns. Pretty much everything in the supplement is geared for that really, along with new powers and monsters. The biggest obstacle I had with things like base construction was complexity - Last Stand should always be simple! - and I've finally figured out how to keep it easy and smooth. I think the currency for purchasing and upgrading new base features is neat, too.
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Jul 8, 2013 06:47
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While I've messing around in the builder a thought occurred to me: Are you concerned at all about having another game concept called Power? It might not be too bad since it's only on the GM side, but if you're not too far along it might be nice to have it be called something else. Maybe Potency?
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Jul 9, 2013 17:55
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Yeah, it's entirely a placeholder name. I have it as Bug Points in my design docs and wanted something not quite so dumb. Potency's a good, neutral, system-wide name for it.
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Jul 9, 2013 19:29
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I have a new Last Stand playtest document if anyone would like to try it out. Post your play experiences here in the thread or on G+ or email me or wherever else, and I'll be sure to credit you in the Last Stand Companion. This playtest document includes six Armory powers for anyone who always wanted to play a dedicated wrestler in Last Stand. It also includes a portion of the base construction rules and hints at some other things you'll find in the Last Stand Companion.
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Jul 16, 2013 02:40
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Mikan posted:I have a new Last Stand playtest document if anyone would like to try it out. Post your play experiences here in the thread or on G+ or email me or wherever else, and I'll be sure to credit you in the Last Stand Companion. Gonna be using the armory cards next session. They look neat. Some issues that MIGHT come up, just browsing through it:
Other then that, the whole thing looks really neat. I can't wait to try it out. And as a miscellaneous note: It would be really neat to get a bio-armor crafting upgrade to either the armor or the recruitment station, that let you draw a random bio-armor from the deck, instead of using the actual crafted powers. A lot of the pre-made bio-armors have stuff you can't get elsewhere, like Mosquitos health drain, the Ants extra slot, or anything with aquatic. My session is on friday (But we might not be playing this week). I'll be sure to make a post saying how it all went, once I get a chance to use this stuff!
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Jul 16, 2013 18:28
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Ceetee posted:Gonna be using the armory cards next session. They look neat. Some issues that MIGHT come up, just browsing through it: Those won't be the only Grapple powers available; I like to leave some powers to playtest just in my personal group/a few select other groups so there are still surprises in the book. I'd expect a few more like Clinch that let you do weird things with Grapple powers, plenty more Grapple powers themselves and then a list of cards that could retroactively have the keyword added if you want. Some invaders will have Grapple powers to rip/slot too, they won't be just Armory cards. I look at Last Stand powers like I do collectible card games; ideally a new set of powers should open up new combos and inspire gimmick builds, as well as offer straightforward and cool options. Some players are satisfied to take straight damage powers and not worry about it. Others want to try something weird and out there. Grapple is aimed at that latter category. If you look at the core powers, there's a fair bit of support already for gimmicks like Poison builds, highly mobile builds, builds that want to trigger Collateral, that kind of thing. To use the card game analogy you'll see a few powers here and there in later supplements for those builds, but their core is complete and playable. Then you've got things like the Drone build, where you can make something that works but the archetype could use a lot of support and will probably see a focused supplement. In the card game analogy, Grapple is kind of like a big expansion. You're going to see a lot of Grapple powers all at once, and then it will join the ranks of core builds that get a few powers in later expansions to provide new options. (To use a more direct comparison to the Game of Thrones card game, things like Poison builds are kind of like Lannister Clansmen. You could, sorta, use it as an archetype with the original cards but it wasn't until the Brotherhood of Banners chapter packs that it came into its own and had plenty of options. Grapple would be like the Shadows mechanic, not really available prior but received a whole bunch of support in the King's Landing chapter packs.) quote:Crush is REALLY good if you have the armory card that gives you 5 medic tokens. Might be better with "For each different special token you have?" (also drat. I had a power which was more or less identical to this in the homebrew I'm working on. Gotta go back and tweak it now.) That's actually the intent - you do 1 damage for each specific type of special token you have. If you're Poisoned, On Fire, Stunned and Webbed you'll deal 4 damage. I copied and pasted an earlier draft of the Grapple powers, so let me fix that. The correct wording for the powers was posted in this G+ status a day or two ago. Updating the document. quote:I'm kinda personally biased against the Museum, because I am a terrible writer and a worse artist. And my players are the kind of people who would 'waste' points on that just to screw with me. Still, would be neat to have some kind of mechanical incentive for them. I'm kind of torn, because on one hand that's the reaction I want to invoke. There's been a great response to the goofier meta powers I've tweeted, and Museum is definitely in that category. What I'll do is present two Museums - one with the Museum as it is, and one that provides a direct mechanical bonus - and include a sidebar discussing the options. I'd rather give people the option and make it fun for everyone rather than only present the joke option and make someone feel uncomfortable. quote:It would be really neat to get a bio-armor crafting upgrade to either the armor or the recruitment station, that let you draw a random bio-armor from the deck, instead of using the actual crafted powers. A lot of the pre-made bio-armors have stuff you can't get elsewhere, like Mosquitos health drain, the Ants extra slot, or anything with aquatic. That falls under the Research And Development Facility - it lets you break down old Bio-Armor and regain the slotted powers, open up new options for crafting bio-armor, that kind of thing. It's also what opens up the Vehicle and Daisato Armor crafting options. R&D probably has the largest, branchiest Upgrade tree of all the Facilities. I want to have about 18 different Facilities to fill the 12 available sectors; the Facilities listed in the playtest doc are a small selection. Mikan fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Some more notes, from just reading through it.
Also, its barely even entered testing and I'm already writing up homebrew for this system. I think its become a serious problem. Anyone know a support group? Homebrewers Anonymous?
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Jul 18, 2013 00:09
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There's no reason to not turn in your ripped powers for points. When I was trying to figure out how to handle base construction and purchasing they struck me as the perfect unused mechanic - as of the core they don't do anything, they just rot away. Trading in ripped powers guarantees you will eventually be able to afford base facilities, and you can gamble with trading in slotted powers (that would probably have been handy in battle) to get those facilities faster. That's design rule number...well, not one, but probably three or four - in Last Stand, everything needs to have a risk/reward element. I'm going to address dying in the companion. The default rule is "you don't, the bio-armor won't let you" because Last Stand is basically a superhero game. That's not useful for folks who want to run it in a more campaign-focused or grittier or realistic or whatever fashion, so I've got some optional death and dying rules to slot in. One of them is a Tenra Bansho Zero style blaze of glory, you choose to die in a dramatic moment kind of thing while another is more realistic and involves taking enough damage when you have stats at zero. Ceetee posted:Also, its barely even entered testing and I'm already writing up homebrew for this system. I think its become a serious problem. Anyone know a support group? Homebrewers Anonymous? If I knew how to stop designing for Last Stand I wouldn't be in this thread. I love reading that, though. Last Stand is built to be modular in the way D&D Next claims to be, there should be all kinds of systems you can slot in and take out. It should be easy to design for and inspire people to make their own content. Always be homebrewing.
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So I've been musing about using this system for a Sentai/Kamen Rider toku inspired game, and I'm trying to come up with a way to do Combo/Team attacks and finishers. So far I've thought of maybe a pool of tokens that everyone puts one in when they hit an enemy, and then when that pool hits a certain number they can activate a finisher/team attack where everyone who put in tokens getting to take part and then creating a list of powers and finishers for them to choose from.
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Jul 18, 2013 00:47
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Last Stand kickstarter backers should have a nice little thing in their latest update.
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Jul 30, 2013 03:15
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Last Stand kickstarter backers should have a nice little thing in their latest update. I didn't get a nice thing. I got a loving amazing thing.
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Jul 31, 2013 02:44
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Last Stand kickstarter backers should have a nice little thing in their latest update. I would just like to say that you are super awesome for explicitly mentioning the possibility that the PCs will decide that the gods are getting exactly what they deserve. Killing everything that thinks it rules humanity should always be an option.
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Jul 31, 2013 02:52
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NinjaDebugger posted:I would just like to say that you are super awesome for explicitly mentioning the possibility that the PCs will decide that the gods are getting exactly what they deserve. Killing everything that thinks it rules humanity should always be an option. At least two gods are statted as monsters in the core book.
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Jul 31, 2013 02:57
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Rulebook Heavily posted:At least two gods are statted as monsters in the core book. Now I want to kill Sleipnir and craft him into an interplanar fighter jet, or maybe a helicarrier.
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Jul 31, 2013 03:10
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So is there another download link for the Encounter Builder somewhere? The sourceforge link from the Kickstarter doesn't seem to want to download.
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Aug 2, 2013 02:21
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Are the international Kickstarter copies of Last Stand still being shipped out? I've not gotten mine yet and I just want to make sure it hasn't been lost en route. 
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:So is there another download link for the Encounter Builder somewhere? The sourceforge link from the Kickstarter doesn't seem to want to download. In any case, I just threw it up here if you're still having trouble. Which reminds me, I still need to fix it for the new minion vermin...
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