TERA (now F2P) - I just spent 150 MES trying to masterwork my gloves I quit

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Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Phosphia posted:

Harik, I don't have any wonder tactic as to how to win a fight where you as cloth user get ganked. My best advice would be to stay alert.

It's an mmo, friends help. Also the way they structured things, it really helps a lot and is rewarding. Check about if there are people in the guild about your level and in the area. Or ask random people in the quest hub, you never know.

Yesterday I encountered no less than five or such outlaws around my level. However, due to running around with two lancers, the outlaws were the ones who couldn't get away fast enough.

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Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

KaneTW posted:

Hey I'm not creepy ok

Also just to remind people we don't talk about Elins too much here so avoid a 3 page derail thanks.

Actually, this reminds me of something. Looking at the forums is confusing because this was something that is different between the NA and Korean versions of Tera. Namely, the hitbox normalization - I've seen people say either way on the whole "blocking hitbox" vs "being hit hitbox".

According to my understanding, these aren't the same, which makes sense, since blocking also depends on facing. But when they normalized the Elin/Popori "being hit" hitboxes to the size of humans/elves, they apparently did not do so to the "blocking" hitbox, which means there's an area ahove your head where you can be hit (in the air) but cannot block, because your hitbox for the blocking move does not go that high.

Can anyone with some experience with an Elin/popori (both were renormalized) tell me if you've experienced something like that?

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 01:23

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Phosphia posted:

True, you will find a lot of 'sexualised' females in many other MMOs, but I have yet to find something else than Tera that also does it with males.

I must say, the High Elf male plate armor models are amazing to look at, really nice works of art, and not ridiculously bulky like say the Human ones.

The Castanic male "plate" armor is so fabulous. It's a pity that in groups the lancer/berserker is in the thick of it and I rather be 10m+ away so I don't get hit by AoEs when in an animation.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 01:28

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

After awhile you get used to the Elins really. It is quite hilarious to tank giant BAMs as an Elin. What I find most offensive is Amani females though. Apparently forcing all the women into high heels wasn't enough, for a race with hooves they decided they need to chop away the back to give them high heel hooves. What kind of stupid sexist crap is that!

But they do look somewhat ok just the feet are really really distracting.

There are some boss attacks like the sloth boss in BT and snake naga monsters who do jump hits and goes through my block even while facing them. From what I hear though, every tank has that issue regardless of race. Other than that I am able to block everything on my Elin Lancer.

Yeah, that one I think was a different issue, when mobs can hit you in the back though your shield. Something about the mob moving you, but their attack hitbox moves faster than you do, so at some point the attack hitbox intersects your "back being hit" hitbox and not the shield. Apparently with very steep attacks (like a mob stabbing downwards) an Elin etc does not have a block hitbox extending to the top of their being hit hitbox, so it smashes you. Though I daresay if you just moved back when you saw the tell, it would be less of an issue. (I want a berserker for farming.)

Mainly curious since apparently the way they did the animations for races like Elin/popori has them moving around more in various attacks and for elin in particular, having more range, despite smaller weapons.

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When I was lower level my shoes were decently looking walking shoes with workable soles. Now all the high level blue shoes are, yep highheels. The type with really narrow heels (more like spikes, I think). Reminds me of one show where apparently the "female" gundam mecha thing actually had, you guessed it, highheels for feet.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 01:33

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Pierson posted:

Hey I just realised the OP is missing a very important picture!

-snip amazing image-

In TERA you can be the King of Cattes. Play it.

On that note - where did the bulldog smoking a pipe image go ?

Also, saw a Popori Slayer doing their jumping-with-sword animation. That one is the best.

I also noted that Elin berserkers seem to have an axe that does not shrink the axehead by much, but telescopes the whole handle into the axehead, so that it looks you have a massive chunk of metal on your back and then the handle just magically appears when you take it out. Think the same might be true for Popori, but because they are wider, it's not as obvious (same height though).

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 13, 2013

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 01:48

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Trihugger posted:

It's the former but I don't know what the person getting kicked sees.

We need to get together in a group and play the "can we guess who started a vote to kick me" game.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 01:59

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

lethial posted:

Yeah those attacks that "reach behind" you while blocking sucks. Those are my #1 source of damage when I solo BAMs. Worst part is that I don't have a good read on when that is going to happen, since sometimes they would all of a sudden do a forward or diagnal movement followed up by an attack that I normally know I could block so I get hit. But sometimes, they don't move enough and I still can block.

When the mob is moving it's attack hitbox this problem might turn up. Not sure how, but I'm pretty sure when killing BAMs with friend lancers that the mob will do a red eye tell, they will block and it charges into their shield.

Next thing you know, they're on the ground, the mob has walked over them, and they've taken maybe 10% hp of damage. This was with human/castanic, not elin either, so it's just a general block/back & mob attack hitbox thing. Presumably if they were "better" it could be avoided by moving to the side or something but it's not at all trouble to just heal them and at least this way we can be sure they blocked the big charge, even if the trample still got them. (Actually eating the charge is 50% hp or something).

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 13, 2013

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 02:22

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Eltoasto posted:

Is there a wardrobe or transmuting option in Tera? So you can wear something you like the look of no matter it's level? Also, thinking about trying this out and wondering about transfer options. Worried about a PVP server with long queues, could I theoretically level up on a pve server and then transfer over to be with the goons? Or is ganking while leveling not much of a concern?

Yes, it's called "templates". Everything below level 58 can be a template. But it has to be the same type of thing. So a plate chest piece can only look like another plate chest piece, and a staff must look like another staff.

Being ganked isn't too bad. Make sure to avoid channel 1 and in general the ones listed with high (or even medium) population. Or be in a group, gankers like easy kills that just walk to them and die, it seems.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 02:38

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Argas posted:

Yes but it's relatively expensive (Not so much that you can't do it, but more that it'll eat into your funds if you keep doing it a lot of times) and eats the armor you're taking the aesthetics from. Great once you hit 60 and/or get a full set of gear that you're satisfied with and don't feel like jumping into another gear grind.

I think now you can use a lot more of the random white/green gear you get while levelling. SO grab it off the AH and use it. Less need to use the expensive NPC templates.

Look on the item for "Eligible as template", this means you can use its looks !

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Feb 13, 2013

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 02:41

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

lethial posted:

Oh wow! I completely didn't expect awesome and not too "sexy" armor from High Elves. drat, I need to level up my zerker. :P And you are right, Baraka looks amazing. Though just to be clear, we no longer have to worry about Baraka being too big thus having too big of a hit box right? I mean, they are HUGE...

If I am not mistaken, Baraka still have the same large hitbox, normalizing only means that the smaller hotboxes (Elin/Popori) became taller, now they are the same as Human/Elf/Amani/Castanic.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 03:07

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Phosphia posted:

I thought both large and small hitboxes were pushed toward a middle variable. Do you have any source on this?

On a related note, do mind that lock-on skill are as they have always been. You'll get complains when playing an Elin Lancer.

No. Short of testing it, I wouldn't just go off whatever random person on the forum says. I think I saw a screenshot someone had taken where they had the game render the hitboxes, which are just rectangular boxes. It shows a human, elin and popori as having the same sized box, and a baraka with a larger one...

Lock ons, yeah, the taller the model, the taller the "lock on" hitbox is. I've compared by trying to use my targeted heal on random people.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 03:26

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

I went about looking, there's people saying even after normalization there's still differences (female castanic & elin are small, baraka is big, popori and male castanic are medium) and then others saying it's all the same. Really confusing.

Of note though, if you're using elin in particular, your hitbox is not only taller than your model but also wider etc. So apparently if an AoE hits say a foot or so in front of you, you'll take damage.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 03:34

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

No one has actually complained about my Lancer yet, but they might be silently seething behind their monitors.

I've had cases where yeah, multiple melee dps all clustered about, but usually they are on the back of the BAM all trying to get that backstab.

I myself usually guess whereabout the tank is (if I can't see) and rapidly wave my crosshairs back and forth a bit. With multiplicative focused heal, hitting some of the others nearby isn't a problem (usually won't get aggro anyway) and AoE heals doesn't matter how tall you are.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 03:39

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Phosphia posted:

But in all honesty, I don't mind that there is a difference between the races.

I don't really care. It's funny though, some pvpers are like: "You shouldn't choose race based on things like hitboxes" and "if you were a ~real~ pvper you wouldn't do this" then conclude with "that's why all hitboxes should be the same". It's hilarious.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 04:18

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Phosphia posted:

I've not been playing it at a high level, but word has it the priest does indeed do everything better. The one thing the mystic has that the priest does not is the extra DPS buff. As a lancer, I don't really care if I have a priest or a mystic with me. The play styles are also very different.

I'd say place more balls. Balls are good.

Mana balls are where it's at. Between that and the crit aura, it becomes a lot easier to get through encounters that rely on DPS checks (more mana, more crit !). But there is a reason why they're referred to in the class forum as "candy droppers" and "walking crit aura". There's also the mana regen aura.

The priest in ktera is getting more support skill buffs, if I remember. Triple nemesis will always debuff endurance, energy starts having a greater range for giving the buff and I think even stronger buff that last longer from ES. Seems the Koreans have the opposite, they greatly prefer mystics to priests, for the same reasons we prefer priest to mystic. The priest heals more, the mystic has better dps buffs.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 04:21

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Bag of Hamsters posted:

I used to get upset about the way women were portrayed in this game...until I saw the men. Hooooooly poo poo, that's some beefy man burrito cheesecake right there. I'd almost want to roll a dude since I've never gotten to play the creepy "playing the other gender because I stare at their butt" card. We're all objectified here.

Also, I feel like a total loving idiot for not realizing the Elite bonuses weren't one-time only.

The high elf males seem to lean towards fabulous rather than beefcake, but yeah - Amani and their dislike of pants :v:

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 13:15

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Argas posted:

It looks like they loosened the restriction because they're opening another server.

Luckily we updated/got a new thread, otherwise some goons might have followed the old info and rolled on Valley of Titans.

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Feb 13, 2013

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 18:41

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

Charge attacks cannot be blocked because BAMs are able to walk through you and then hit you when they are behind you knocking you over. You can counter this by tanking with your back to a wall, or dodging to the side and having them shoot away (not a good choice unless soloing)

Wall tanking example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GSysjt-B4&t=263s
Side dodge example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TbPPt20Adk&t=255s

This is one of the reasons (as well as not moving the mob) why you might want to tank with your back against something immoveable. Not rotating the mob is also a plus. (If it walks over you and turns around, your DPS are now right in front of it instead of behind ... for melee DPS, welp)

# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 18:43

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Up to four letters per character per day. Seems these letters come with keys. I checked and looks like an alt on the same account will not receive letters if you already picked them up on (main)

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Feb 15, 2013

# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 03:00

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

The dungeons with DPS checks are, shocking enough, easier to clear with the more DPS-boosting mystic. But trying to level one is annoying, :v:

(The "punishments" for not DPSing/blocking/dodging/encounter mechanic-ing correctly quickly exceed the ability of mystic or priest to heal away.)

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Feb 15, 2013

# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 04:14

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Sintor posted:

So, I played this at release for quite a long time and am interested in the F2P. I have a zerk and a slayer at max, but if I wanted to get some friends to play, is there any good way to help them level a lot faster than normal? We've tried some questing with me outside and 51% hp bam kills, etc. It still seems a bit faster than normal but not by much. Any thoughts?

I believe you can help them finish quests (that are not repeatable) and in particular rush through story quests, which will give a great amount of XP.

Also, look about for blue weapons on the AH, in many cases, you might be able to buy one for only a little more than it vendors for. Compared to your income, buying them a stream of blues is nothing, and even for them, it's quite affordable to keep upgrading blues and vendoring the old ones.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 07:06

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

WhiteBoyShuffle posted:

Domething about it just feels right, although I must admit now that I am playing a melee class, upon moving around the side of a baddie, I typically miss the first swing because of where I am facing or the camera.

Yeah, you have to turn about to hit the enemy. Unless your weapon attack has a large arc on it to the side (see: warrior)

# ¿ Feb 16, 2013 02:33

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

BobTheJanitor posted:

You had a good group, plus BoL is sort of babby's first dungeon so they don't want to smash your face in immediately. Later dungeons you'll get plenty of 'oh god everyone is at half hp and on fire what do I do' moments.

Since they are a mystic, it's pretty much that if it's gotten to that, that they'll all end up dying in the fire that they probably walked into because they were bad.

Also, mana balls and sorcs are like a match made in some sort of DPS based hell for mobs.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2013 09:06

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Harik posted:

Honestly though, I was just venting that people were that bad in their 50s. I know you can fail upward on a carebear server, but how do people this bad survive when their angry groups can KoS them?

Well instance matching drags people from different servers.

I had this terrible lancer from the RP server. You could guess the trainwreck by noting they had the crappiest aggro crystals.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2013 02:02

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Harik posted:

In hilariously inept news, I tried to PUG Ascent of Saravash last night, with... less than stellar results. Apparently nobody in the party could figure out that the gigantic red circle and flashing "FANGSPAWN IS EMITTING POISON!" meant "move out of the big AOE nuke". The priest kept dying and we ran out of res cooldowns for him - oh, except we wouldn't have, but dumbshit rezzed _ME_, the sorcerer, instead of the priest, wasting his 20 minute cooldown.

I remember that boss. I got hit once because I hadn't seen it before and didn't know how large the AoE was. After that, well I have 21m range focus heal. The poor DPS though, I think a sorc took a couple before wising up, but the melee DPS had some trouble, except the tank who could block.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2013 02:04

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

BobTheJanitor posted:

I always thought it was just a way to ride while in a dress. Since the only alternative would be hiking the dress up over your hips, not exactly the ladylike option. Although since tera armor all comes from a lingerie catalog, it seems like they would be fine with any excuse to lift your skirt.

Or, ironically, you might be the little-est race (Elin) where apparently their dresses, be it cloth, leather or plate metal, don't have any parts on the hips. Though you can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culottes

I still think plate metal dresses beat plate metal bikinis, though the High Elf T13/14 plate looks nice (wings !!)

Harik posted:

Is there an actual noticable speed difference between the 290 vanarch and the suite of 280-speed mounts? Someone using the default level 11 mount is obvious (and mockable) but that boring blue founder mount doesn't seem to get left behind when traveling.

If the two people are turning here and there, no. But if you're both zipping along a nice open area in a straight line, it's discernible.

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Feb 20, 2013

# ¿ Feb 20, 2013 23:32

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Harik posted:

I'm going to infer from the non-response to the second half of my question that no, the developers didn't see the need to grace us with the ability to look somewhere without running towards it.

Ironically, you can.

Start running. While holding down "w", press enter. Now you can let go of "w", then press enter again to exit the chat. Your character will continue to run, but you can now move the camera independently.

I do this all the time, yes.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2013 02:01

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Eltoasto posted:

Ugh, are there any mounts besides cash shop/CE lion that my slutty elf won't ride side saddle? Hate that, but probably stuck with horsies until 60 aren't I?

There's the golden throne thing, is that side saddle as well?

# ¿ Feb 21, 2013 02:46

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Harik posted:

I've tried this, it doesn't work right. W, enter, release W, enter again - I keep running, but the camera is back to turning me.

Maybe it's pressing W, Alt, release w.

It's also the case that you can look behind you and by pressing S you will run towards the camera, ie forward. And moving "diagonally" lets you look sideways while running in the same direction as you were before

# ¿ Feb 21, 2013 06:19

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

I suppose if you run a lot of dungeons, and you really need money, Elite is ok. There are so many ways to make money and if you are at 60 long enough, you'll have so much money you don't know what to do with it.

As a new 60 gearing up, the cash is sorta nice. Between double daily and double gold you go from .5k to 2k a day, which is like 45k over a month. Also, more faction credits. Granted you have to do twice as many quests and probably be running about more to ensure you turn them all in within boost window (and get some nexus time in too.

Not having the atlus isn't a big blow if you aren't rushing to do the turnins within an hour. Might be useful when levelling, as opposed to dailies and sitting in BG/instance queue as a 60.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 03:08

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Thievery posted:

So happy to hear you disabled PVP there. While I was there a week or so ago on my sorcerer, the then-vanarch disabled PVP for like an hour and the area chat was just so much rage. Death threats and so on. People get really upset when they can't gank their lowbies!

Death threats, you say? Sounds reportable.

Demicol posted:

It's three weeks, but you have to pay "policy points" to change the settings, I don't know how you get more of them or how much you start with, though, the official site doesn't say.
Still, this is really funny. Hope you got more of those angry messages saved up.

Among other things, we can do Vanarch quests killing world bosses for PP. I hope everyone will pitch in to keep the gankers crying until they finally go gank people in the next area.

Also, Praise the guild, we love these policies.

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Feb 23, 2013

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 04:25

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

Theres an event going on

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/guild-recruitment-video-contest

Totally should use the whispers and rage for it!

Yes, us dancing in Lumbertown, newbies running freely across the bridge, gankers with red names on the bridge getting nothing done. And a steam of angry messages.

"Wouldn't you like to have fun in Lumbertown? Join us today! :shobon:

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 04:27

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Thievery posted:

If you guys aren't all just gathering in the same locations and inviting them into a massive trap you're not playing the game right.

Tell them we're all in a massive group in MCHM. Haha.

Private Dragongod Knightkings party in.. Bastion of Lok

Velveteen posted:

That is totally doable...

We should do this. On a related note, the little tune/humming during the elin dancing animation gets annoying. Everyone else dances much more quietly.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 06:56

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Argas posted:

I just love how as people start defending what happened, the only thing he can say is "ARE RIGHTS"

I mean, it's not like DGKK dug up some super secret Vanarchy menu. It's there. It does nothing on a PVE server, it does something on a PVP server.

We used... the nuclear option. No PVP Allowed. It's Crowd's right to click the button.

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Feb 23, 2013

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 14:19

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

So I just took the warp-pegasus with my alt.

I didn't know you would sit sideways on the pegasus. It looks pretty precarious.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 15:53

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Velveteen posted:

I'm still not sure if people are going to hate us and try to get us out of vanarchy like reddit or if we have lowbie support that we won't fall out of vanarchy next term. Seems like finding allies now would be quite hard for next term since TFT and NFA pretty much abandoned us. That and the whole server seems to hate us, or at least the most vocal members of the server.

Seems like they will camp the nexus spots, haha.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2013 21:44

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Harik posted:

Well I've learned an impressive new way to gently caress people over in this game. As tank, wipe the rest of your party when boss is nearly dead, then kill him. Wait for loot to go public, take it all. Laugh at them in black&white, and leave.

I didn't bother saying anything, it wouldn't have changed anything, and it was only normal mode. Explains why I died twice right at the end - vicious.vix was working to drag the big attacks at everyone else.

Hmm, if I spot this happening I'll be sure to save my self rez buff for after the guy has killed the boss. The more you know. Especially if the tank starts behaving erratically when the boss is low on health.

In particular, it's possible to use the buff to rez, then it's already cooled down (since you cast a buff that lets you rez) so you can rebuff yourself with it and then if you die again, you can rez a second time.

Also, how much does a name change go for again...

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Feb 24, 2013

# ¿ Feb 24, 2013 15:27

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/mount-tyrannas/topics/No-PvP-in-Arcadia?page=1#post-778471

Guys, can we try and er, farm this for tears? Thanks in advance.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2013 16:02

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

Mr Fahrenheit posted:

EDIT: I just tried a minute ago, and every server now gives me a "Server is Unavailable" message, where before it wasn't doing anything. Maybe I tried to login during Nexus and my request is timing out or something.

It isn't nexus time for another 2 hours I believe.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2013 16:03

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 18:13

Alavaria: Apr 3, 2009

I'm coming to the conclusion that I am simply not ~hardcore~ enough for tera. As I see it, currently the big things are (in rough order of completion) grind rep to get the jewelry, grind gold to get regent, grind gold to get fraywind, grind players to get pvp credits for something (I think more jewelry) and grind SGallery and ToT for glyph badges (or grind gold for that, gold seems to work universally except for BoP faction stuff).

Oh yes, and I forgot grind gold or else MES & MW Alk in order to grind RNG for a weapon and a set of pve gear and a set of pvp gear.

Alavaria fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Feb 25, 2013

# ¿ Feb 25, 2013 22:36

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