My First DSLR - "Is 'Dunning-Kruger Effect' a Photoshop plugin?"

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wargames: Mar 16, 2008; official yospos cat censor

I am considering two dslr for my first dslr the cannon sl2 and the nikon d5600, what do goons think about the sl2 vs d5600?

# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 03:31

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:48

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I am 100% ok with buying used, i am planning a trip to climb mount kilimanjaro and want to take a not terrible camera with me, and i will be trying to use it from now till then to get use to it. Price wise i am looking sub $750 I know just buying the body then getting not terrible lens is the way to go.

# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 13:13

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rio posted:

How do you feel about shooting raw, or are you shooting jpg? The Fuji X-T1 is within your budget and I recommend Fuji for a lot of reasons but the jpg output is excellent so for people not wanting to shoot raw and edit that alone makes it a good option.

The x-t1 seems outside my budget since i am wanting camera + lenses for 750 or less, also the fuji lens seem more up market in cost.

thinking this might be fine

http://www.jetcameras.com/Nikon_D56...5RoCwxoQAvD_BwE

wargames fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 6, 2018

# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 15:05

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suck my woke dick posted:

What lenses are you looking at? You probably wouldn�t need to go straight to a 50-140 or 56/1.2.

35 or 50 or 28

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801826184-USE/nikon_2183_af_s_dx_nikkor_35mm.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801826390-USE/nikon_2199_af_s_nikkor_50mm_f_1_8g.html

and i think this wouldn't be terrible but i do not know if an F or D lens would be good?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801826031-USE/nikon_2145_zoom_wide_angle_telephoto_af.html

or

https://www.amazon.com/NIKON-AF-S-NIKKOR-55-200mm-4-5-6G/dp/B00RUBK53Y/ref=sr_1_17?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1536244727&sr=1-17&keywords=af-s

wargames fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Sep 6, 2018

# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 15:28

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lampey posted:

Jetcameras is a scam site. Don't buy anything from them. Look at the reviews of the site online. After ordering someone will call you and say it is sold out, or that it doesn't come with some needed thing like a battery, or the version you ordered is not in english, but they have the one you need for $300 more, and it will probably be a grey market version with no warranty.

Do you prefer the optical viewfinder on a DSLR or an electronic viewfinder on a mirrorless camera? How important is the size, and what about weatherproofing? Do you need a flippy screen?

so no jet cameras, the nikon kit lens isn't terribad unlike most other kit lens

I have no idea if i like the optical viewfinder or electronic. I do not want huge orginal xbox controler size camera. I do like the idea of a flippy screen but really like the idea of a touch screen. weatherproofing is not high on things i need.

But compared to canon or nikon doesn't pentax lag behind in terms of auto focus? doesn't pentax do image stablize in body not in lens?

wargames fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 6, 2018

# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 22:08

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ExecuDork posted:

I don't know about the autofocus, but yes, Pentax puts image stabilization in the body. That means every lens on a Pentax DSLR is stabilized. When you put a lens on a Pentax DSLR it recognizes the lens and sets the image stabilization accordingly, so it's not like you'll be shooting at 55mm with image stabilization appropriate for 18mm. I know this because if I put on a lens it doesn't recognize, like some old manual-focus lens (Pentax has EXCELLENT backwards compatibility - which means lots of good, cheap lenses on the second-hand market), my camera will ask me about the focal length.

The trade-off between a mirrorless and a DSLR is the DSLR has an optical viewfinder (mirrors, prisms, basically: lots of heavy glass on top) while the smaller, lighter mirrorless always sends the view to the screen. This makes for a difference in battery life, with a DSLR you can turn off instant review (the image appears on the screen after a shot) and shoot all drat day with little battery drain - keeping a LED screen lit up is the main power drain on any electronic device, spinning autofocus motors and keeping the light-meter going are trivial in comparison. Any mirrorless is going to be burning battery power any time it's turned on. Modern cameras with modern batteries are significantly better at this so don't take this as suggesting your camera will have a dead battery by the time you get to the good viewing spot.

The "correct" camera for any person depends on a huge number of factors, most of which are very personal and subjective. Given your main use, going up a mountain, I would also suggest you look at small, light mirrorless cameras.

For the most part kilimanjaro and the group i am going with does have porters so the differance between a 3 pound dslr and 1 pound mirrorless isn't that important.

but this is my current list of proposed cameras

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-24-2MP...ords=nikon&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I1CPA0O/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=sdpgenius-20&ie=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PZ52CG/ref=psdc_3017941_rv_t1_B07C8CX69J

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719JBW9J/ref=psdc_3017941_rv_t2_B07C8CX69J

Pentax seem super cool but i am unsure about buying into them since they do not seem like there is a ton of support out there for them compared to cannon and nikon.

wargames fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 7, 2018

# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 17:30

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nmfree posted:

Of the ones you listed, this would be the kit that I would recommend. The camera will be good, and the two kit lenses are pretty highly regarded (for kit lenses, I'd still suggest getting the 35mm f/1.8 as well just because it's so cheap and good).

did spot this and since people did point out that the 70-300 doesn't have VR its kind of pointless.

https://www.cameta.com/Nikon-D5600-Digital-SLR-Camera-18-55mm-VR-DX-AF-P-Lens-Refurbished-99284.cfm

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1365770-REG/nikon_1576b_d5600_dslr_camera_with.html

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/refurbished-dslr-cameras/1546b/d5500-refurbished.html

However its also pointed out that the d3500 is coming out soon and i might be able to pick up a refurb d3400 on the super cheap because of that on like a cyber monday deal.

edit

are the nikon VR II lens better then the regular VR lens?

wargames fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 8, 2018

# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 21:47

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~~How is the Pentax k-s2 compared to the nikon d5500/d5600?~~

got a good deal on a Pentax k70 and a 18-135mm weather resistance lens, hopefully this wasn't a terrible idea.

wargames fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Sep 27, 2018

# ¿ Sep 27, 2018 15:13

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Would be willing to answer questions, but this will be my first camera.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2018 22:04

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ExecuDork posted:

I am quite interested in whatever followup about your K70 you're willing to share. I spent a bit of procrastination time last week thinking about my next camera, I hadn't been lusting over gear for a while and it felt like that was missing from my life (also missing: disposable income. But I have much practice in ignoring such concerns). I've got a K-5 that I want to send for servicing because I've been using it (and thoroughly enjoying it) for a while. I dug into PentaxForums.com and figured out the K70 is most probably the appropriate successor for me, though the KS-2 was a decent second choice / lower-cost option.

If I get off my rear end and actually seriously start considering a new-to-me camera, hearing about your experience would be very useful. In any case, enjoy! And post your pictures here in the Dorkroom, in whatever thread is appropriate.

K70 got, along with a 18-135mm and a 50 f1.8 I also did a day of shooting.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/161241843@N06/albums/72157674201969738

with the ducks i tried to do some HDR, pixelshift, and bracketing photos, but really learned that i need a remote control for the camera, and i really like zoom lenses.

edit

Also wifi/app sucks pretty hard, and rarely connects for me.

wargames fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Oct 6, 2018

# ¿ Oct 6, 2018 20:51

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ExecuDork posted:

Good stuff. Keep shooting, keep posting pics, have fun.

Sooner or later I'll think of a question for you.

Planning on it. The 50mm 1.8f prime is nice but i dislike how far back i am when i take pictures. this might just me being a new to picture taking with a fancy camera.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 17:35

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I find the 135mm side of the kit lens to be nice enough, here is an example the th 18mm and the 135mm.

_IMG2001 by war games, on Flickr

_IMG2002 by war games, on Flickr

# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 19:13

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ExecuDork posted:

Good stuff. Keep shooting, keep posting pics, have fun.

Sooner or later I'll think of a question for you.

Camera is a good excuse to get out of the house on the weekend. went to the oldest city in america.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/161241843@N06/albums/72157672295796037

wargames fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 18, 2018

# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 00:25

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:48

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double posting because progress happened just no new post here. So tonight was the night of lights for st augustine where they turn on the christmas lights and tree for the city. Know that it was going to be dark i took out the 50mm 1.8 and the 18mm-135mm. Well the 18-135 just couldn't suck in enough light without some noisy high iso pictures so here is an album of mostly 50mm prime pictures

https://www.flickr.com/photos/161241843@N06/albums/72157703643197784/page1

I am super proud of this picture because this is America, a muslim family eating burgers and fries at a prirate themed pub, on the night the christmas tree gets lit up in a town founded by spanish conquistadors.

_IMG2412 by war games, on Flickr

Also video of an old granny getting down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsueLg6COo

# ¿ Nov 18, 2018 05:35

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