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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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depends on what you're trying to do. I am getting into sports photography, and crop sensor is superior in terms of speed and everything. I would assume that portrait/landscape photography would be more geared towards full frame.

I had a Nikon D70 as my first camera, and to be honest, I didn't get excited about the full frame. It didn't do a whole lot for me. Then again, it is a 10 year old camera.

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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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Kenshin posted:

What? No no no no. If you're doing a lot of wildlife photography or sports photography using telephoto lenses then there is absolutely a good reason to go with a crop sensor. Unless of course you've got a completely ridiculous budget for even larger telephoto lenses.

Especially in this thread for people new to dslr photography, that is terrible advice.

Pretty much this. Compare the Mkiii to the 7D or 70D as far as buffering and FPS. MKiii is a full frame, and falls behind in terms of trying to shoot spots, and wildlife. Full frame could be good, but I don't have the 7k to spend on a 1D. Granted the AF system of the 5mkiii is superior, and is a better camera all around, but actually looking into getting a camera with an emphasis on sports, there just aren't that many affordable full frame options that can keep up with the 7D or 70D canon wise.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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timrenzi574 posted:

Why comes my 50X zoom says 100mm on it but this 2500$ 70-200mm that I bought cause the guy on dpreview said I should be ashamed to own a DSLR without one doesn't look as far away?

Jesus loving Christ that instantly took me back to the country. Read it with a drawl and everything.

"gently caress it, I'll just buy my camera at Walmart"

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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ExecuDork posted:

The bundled printer and filters are a big turn-off for me. There has never been a printer bundled with anything (camera, computer, whatever) that was worth a drat. They only bundle poo poo they need to get rid of, find a different deal if you really want a T3i.

I have a t4i I'd be willing to sell with Battery grip, 70-300 III, and kit lens. Round abouts the same price, if you are interested

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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SoundMonkey posted:

If interested please to be taking to the other thread.

Absolutely.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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I own both the 18-135 and Tamron 17-50 and can tell you both are great choices. I personally would recommend the Tamron because the constant aperture is really nice and if you need to zoom past 50, you should either move closer or get a zoom lens like a 70-300 or something.

As mentioned, it really depends on what you want to shoot. If it's just for kid pictures, I would go with the Tamron hands down. The depth of field you can get from that lens wide open is a lot better than the others. Also, since it's a baby, you can get relatively close and not have to go crazy with the ISO when inside.

Also, don't use the pop up flash. It's horrible, and I don't know why they keep putting them on DSLRs.


I'm currently saving to get my Sigma 120-300 2.8. I also have a kid on the way (May) and that means expenses will go up, and I will be buying my son toys instead of me getting toys. Which I am perfectly fine with. I need to sell my older camera and lenses, and that would do well to help finish paying off my 70D as well as get ready for a nice little "Welcome to the World" present for my son.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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Thanks!

You can't go wrong with a nifty fifty to be honest. It's a lens I need to get (I'm actually going to get a 85 or something) but it's a really good one to start out with. It forces you to learn the difference between zooming with your feet and zooming with zooming with a lens. They both have their advantages and disadvatnages but learning how to do it with your feet with REALLY help you learn how to compose things differently and give overall better photos if you can get close. Examples here: http://photos.simark.net/zoom-with-your-feet-or-change-your-lens/

As shown, zooming is important if you physically can't get to a location or the subject is far away and you want to get as much of it in frame and focus as possible. Like sports. I don't mind putting my body on the line to get a photo, but I'm not going to risk my set up getting ruined by taking a two footed tackle by trying to get out on the pitch. I'd actually more than likely be escorted off by security before something like that happened.

How much money are you looking to spend on a camera? I may have missed your post. I'm going to be putting my camera up for sale this week (the person I was going to sell it to locally skimped out and drug me along). SO if you are, check the buy/sell thread. If not, I'm sure someone else will want it. Canon t4i, kit lens, battery grip, and canon 70-300 III. It's my second camera, and I love it, I just had to upgrade because of the buffer, fps, and a few other things that make sports photography and video a little bit frustrating.

I would again totally recommend that Tamron though. I bought it here, so people are willing to offload it. It's cheaper too than that one person said. It's about 250 used or so shipped. Though you'll get a lot of sharper images with that nifty fifty.

If you're looking into getting really big into photography, there are books of course, but youtube is free and lets you see things in real time. Everyone here can tell you the basics as well, but the BEST way to learn is to go out and shoot. Just shoot like crazy! Also, keep your RAWs in a hardrive or something. Case in point, I recently just tried to consolidate all of my finished products to send to my parents. Sadly, the final versions are gone. Thankfully, people here told me to keep my originals so I did. Now I can go back and re-edit the photo, which is a lot better than not having anything at all.

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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


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SoundMonkey posted:

Also if you ever want to shoot sports, learn to shoot with both eyes open. In fact learn to do that anyways, it comes in handy. The little mental twitch to shift focus between eyes takes a bit of getting used to though.

This! It's the same thing like shooting a gun. Keep both eyes open so you can identify and watch for your target and follow it. It does take some getting used to, but it is so invaluable it's crazy.

Delivery McGee posted:


I wish I had the photo taken by the guy beside me the first time I got hit shooting American football (circa 2001). I was using the school's DSLR, which I was told in no uncertain terms was worth more than my tuition; I went down holding the camera above my head, ended up sitting on the player's back. I've never broken a camera, knock wood.


Luckily nothing like that has happened to me yet. I'm currently just following one team and they all love it. Apparently they had been looking for a photographer for years. Sucks I leave in September, but at least they'll have something before I leave. I used to play for the team and It's great because my coach would make fun of me when I would mess up passes or marking someone. Only had one goal scored when I was a defender when I was on the pitch, but he based my performance during practice, where I'm not going to tackle or go as hard because they are my teammates. The biggest "gently caress you" was my first appearance. My assistant coach was in charge of the second team where I played. He subbed me on and coach told him "I thought you wanted to win, why did you put him on?" Our first corner, I almost scored a header, but had it blocked. Second corner right after that I lose my marker and ref blows for a foul against a scuffle in the box. 5 minutes later, I catch up to someone on a break and block his one on one. The Assistant coach was pretty :smug: after that.

So I show up with my camera, he sees the pictures and says "I finally found something you're good at!"

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