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skudmunky
Apr 28, 2010

peter gabriel posted:

To me the ending you have sounds like it really wants to break down into something slow and full electro kind of sounding, imagine it morphing into something like the start of (specifically from about 1.16):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JitbvK6hpA

That'd be my thoughts anyhoots, whatever you do with it though it'll be awesome I reckon :)

I think he could extend the electro vamp happening in at the end there, throw some interesting chord changes in, do a lead guitar with the same tone as the intro, and then crash back into the full heavyness of the beginning. Love the middle bit in that clip too, great transitions all around.

I reworked my most recent sketch, changed a lot of the bass, violin, and drums. Also gave it a silly name: https://soundcloud.com/skudmunky/bridge-ices-before-road

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GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011

skudmunky posted:

I think he could extend the electro vamp happening in at the end there, throw some interesting chord changes in, do a lead guitar with the same tone as the intro, and then crash back into the full heavyness of the beginning. Love the middle bit in that clip too, great transitions all around.

I reworked my most recent sketch, changed a lot of the bass, violin, and drums. Also gave it a silly name: https://soundcloud.com/skudmunky/bridge-ices-before-road

Completely agree with this.

Your song structure is really solid man, the only thing that throws me off is that the violin tone is off somehow.. besides that ide put some harmonies with the violin before the change to break up that long intro

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
So here's the first thing I have recorded on my own, it's turning out OK and isn't finished, no vocals, crappy mix I guess and I need to edit out some guitar on the second half to leave room for singing but hey, it's a sketch!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/the-hide

I wanted to try and create a nice atmospheric thing and it's succeeding I think, opinions and input gratefully received :)

GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011

peter gabriel posted:

So here's the first thing I have recorded on my own, it's turning out OK and isn't finished, no vocals, crappy mix I guess and I need to edit out some guitar on the second half to leave room for singing but hey, it's a sketch!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/the-hide

I wanted to try and create a nice atmospheric thing and it's succeeding I think, opinions and input gratefully received :)

Dude.. that's really cool. I really like this.
I really want to put a bass line in there, like I can hear it in my head. I would just say keep going and clean it up to where ever your happy. I wouldn't put vocals down though.

Ps.
If you want someone else to play in the song ide be more than happy to :D

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

GrunderGretch posted:

Dude.. that's really cool. I really like this.
I really want to put a bass line in there, like I can hear it in my head. I would just say keep going and clean it up to where ever your happy. I wouldn't put vocals down though.

Ps.
If you want someone else to play in the song ide be more than happy to :D

I might take you up on that!
I want to re record the bass anyway because I was doing it all wrong, on it's own the bass sounds flappy and farty.
I am going to keep chipping away at this, I have had a ton of fun learning how to record on my own, and it seems now I have a little knowledge I can do a bit more with the drums etc.
Thank you for the kind words, I was a bit nervy about posting because it really is my first 'proper' attempt at recording :)

GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011

peter gabriel posted:

I might take you up on that!
I want to re record the bass anyway because I was doing it all wrong, on it's own the bass sounds flappy and farty.
I am going to keep chipping away at this, I have had a ton of fun learning how to record on my own, and it seems now I have a little knowledge I can do a bit more with the drums etc.
Thank you for the kind words, I was a bit nervy about posting because it really is my first 'proper' attempt at recording :)

It's definitely cool. I love that ambient stuff, I've got a few but I always set it to private because I figure people wouldn't like it

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

GrunderGretch posted:

It's definitely cool. I love that ambient stuff, I've got a few but I always set it to private because I figure people wouldn't like it

You just gotta post stuff I suppose, no one's going to die or anything :v:

GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011
Well in that case.... Here's what i did with the ending I was working on..

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/never-stop

silencekit
May 1, 2014


peter gabriel posted:

So here's the first thing I have recorded on my own, it's turning out OK and isn't finished, no vocals, crappy mix I guess and I need to edit out some guitar on the second half to leave room for singing but hey, it's a sketch!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/the-hide

I wanted to try and create a nice atmospheric thing and it's succeeding I think, opinions and input gratefully received :)

Oh man this is good. Ugh when the drums and that sludgy guitar come in, it just seems like True Detective hosed up and should have commissioned you. Very very cool. Any thoughts for vox? It's a nice jam, but I sort of found myself craving a little more structure. These tones are just excellent, though. You should be proud.

Hi everybody! Haven't posted in here in a minute, but I thought I'd share some stuff I've been toying around with for the past couple weeks. I'm working on this collection of songs that are inspired by my experiences with furniture from IKEA. I've been recording a lot of demos using a super old Radio Shack tape recorder thing from the 80's, and then some using my iPhone, and maybe of most interest, this first one here that I tracked some rough parts for on Logic, then bounced onto tape on the same stupid player, then sent back into Logic from the tape player onto a single track. That disgusting/awesome fuzziness all over it is just from playback from the tape player. I was really happy with how messy it got:

FJELLSE

This second one is just a little iPhone ukulele demo that I could use some arrangement ideas for. Listening back now, I don't think it's nearly as good a song as I thought it was when I was writing it, but I like the chorus. Am I onto something, or does this suck:

KULLEN

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

silencekit posted:

Oh man this is good. Ugh when the drums and that sludgy guitar come in, it just seems like True Detective hosed up and should have commissioned you. Very very cool. Any thoughts for vox? It's a nice jam, but I sort of found myself craving a little more structure. These tones are just excellent, though. You should be proud.


Thanks man!
The song is split is 2 with the second half being all acoustic guitars, it's purely that one part I want to put vocals on, just one set of lyrics repeated 4 times, nothing more. In my head this is hopefully an intro to other songs so I never wanted it to be Verse > Chorus > Verse etc, it's more about vibe and I so excited that that seems to have come across well, really I am :)

There is a chance I will ditch that idea though and try some keys or something, not that I can play but that hasn't stopped me so far ha ha.


I am getting some really cheerful Go Team type vibes off this and I like the lo fi angle :)

peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Sep 9, 2015

Eat My Ghastly Ass
Jul 24, 2007

Hi everyone! A couple weeks back I started jamming with some friends with the idea of doing something electronic; we're all used to playing guitars in bands, so it's been a lot of fun messing with synths and drum machines.I threw together a rough demo of something we've been working on. Not quite sure I feel on the mix. We don't really know where to take it, I like the chord changes when the guitar drops out about a third of the way through but feel it still needs more variety.

https://soundcloud.com/chillbreauxsux/confidence-trickster

Eat My Ghastly Ass
Jul 24, 2007

GrunderGretch posted:

Well in that case.... Here's what i did with the ending I was working on..

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/never-stop

This is cool! I think heavy guitars can be pretty hit or miss with atmospheric stuff but it works really well here.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Yarbald posted:

Hi everyone! A couple weeks back I started jamming with some friends with the idea of doing something electronic; we're all used to playing guitars in bands, so it's been a lot of fun messing with synths and drum machines.I threw together a rough demo of something we've been working on. Not quite sure I feel on the mix. We don't really know where to take it, I like the chord changes when the guitar drops out about a third of the way through but feel it still needs more variety.

https://soundcloud.com/chillbreauxsux/confidence-trickster

So atmospheric, I really enjoyed that, I love the dark turn it takes about half way through as well, is it staying instrumental or have you got plans for vocals?

Eat My Ghastly Ass
Jul 24, 2007

peter gabriel posted:

So atmospheric, I really enjoyed that, I love the dark turn it takes about half way through as well, is it staying instrumental or have you got plans for vocals?

Thanks! I think we're going to stay instrumental for the most part, maybe having occasional vocalists we know through the scene here. I've already had a friend express interest in doing vocals on this one, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011
Alright there's no posts left un tended so here's a new one i'm working on.

Disclaimer:
My line 6 hd pro was blue screening my p.c because of driver problems so i had to get fancy with it.
The new layout is.

Guitar > line 6 hd pro > headphones out > into my loop pedal > output into > M audio fast track c400 > into my daw..
Pretty sure the tones actually "better" now, it sounds a little more natural.


https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/testing-a-new-chain-method-for-recording

(I think i finally found a idea to work on. let me know what you think!)

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Yarbald posted:

Hi everyone! A couple weeks back I started jamming with some friends with the idea of doing something electronic; we're all used to playing guitars in bands, so it's been a lot of fun messing with synths and drum machines.I threw together a rough demo of something we've been working on. Not quite sure I feel on the mix. We don't really know where to take it, I like the chord changes when the guitar drops out about a third of the way through but feel it still needs more variety.

https://soundcloud.com/chillbreauxsux/confidence-trickster


Yarbald posted:

Thanks! I think we're going to stay instrumental for the most part, maybe having occasional vocalists we know through the scene here. I've already had a friend express interest in doing vocals on this one, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I'd say either add vocals or some sort of more obvious melodic line in the atmospheric swishy parts. They're lovely, but it feels like it's missing something to focus it and really bring it together.

Here's the new thingy I'm working on.

https://soundcloud.com/danwarren/doomed

It's actually got lyrics and all that, but they're only half written and haven't been recorded yet.

It turns out to be loving hard hard to get vocal tracks recorded cleanly now that I live in the jungle because the cockatoos don't shut up until 8 PM and then the possums start fighting on the roof almost immediately and continue into the night. I haven't done much recording of actual sounds since I moved here over a year ago. Beautiful, though.

GrunderGretch
Aug 2, 2011

Trig Discipline posted:

I'd say either add vocals or some sort of more obvious melodic line in the atmospheric swishy parts. They're lovely, but it feels like it's missing something to focus it and really bring it together.

Here's the new thingy I'm working on.

https://soundcloud.com/danwarren/doomed

It's actually got lyrics and all that, but they're only half written and haven't been recorded yet.

It turns out to be loving hard hard to get vocal tracks recorded cleanly now that I live in the jungle because the cockatoos don't shut up until 8 PM and then the possums start fighting on the roof almost immediately and continue into the night. I haven't done much recording of actual sounds since I moved here over a year ago. Beautiful, though.

Sorry for jumping in but,
Use your environment man!
To actually have real samples of that kind of stuff isn't common. Could help with ambience in tracks as well

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Oh don't get me wrong, I love found sound and do a decent amount of found sound stuff, e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfrDjk0wP4


But when you're trying to lay down a quiet fingerpicky guitar track and this is going on outside all day it isn't helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K1MbUJdQy0

These are the most common bird and you seriously have no idea how loud that noise is until you've lived near it.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
So I am putting together another song, plan here is it's a more traditional thing, there are even lyrics (not recorded)

Here's the first bit, I have the full thing but not ready.

What do you guys think about 1.10 - 1.40? I am still new at this so I am trying to hand make drums in Cubase, does it sound to 'lumpy'? I know it needs singing on it but am interested in opinions as to make it move along better maybe.

Thanks!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/all-the-lights-too

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless

peter gabriel posted:

So I am putting together another song, plan here is it's a more traditional thing, there are even lyrics (not recorded)

Here's the first bit, I have the full thing but not ready.

What do you guys think about 1.10 - 1.40? I am still new at this so I am trying to hand make drums in Cubase, does it sound to 'lumpy'? I know it needs singing on it but am interested in opinions as to make it move along better maybe.

Thanks!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/all-the-lights-too
I like the slow jam feel of it. Did the whole thing need to be a solo though? haha. I like the mix on it, with a metronome and maybe a bit more direction on what you wanted it to sound like it would have a real good sound.




https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/callous

Wrote it earlier today at lunch, I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet. Considering I do almost nothing with all of my pieces, I'll probably make it sound decent for 2 or 3 bars then call it a day.


Also my classical is tuned a half step down and sounds really relaxing and deep all of a sudden.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

NTT posted:

I like the slow jam feel of it. Did the whole thing need to be a solo though? haha. I like the mix on it, with a metronome and maybe a bit more direction on what you wanted it to sound like it would have a real good sound.




https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/callous

Wrote it earlier today at lunch, I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet. Considering I do almost nothing with all of my pieces, I'll probably make it sound decent for 2 or 3 bars then call it a day.


Also my classical is tuned a half step down and sounds really relaxing and deep all of a sudden.

Thanks :)
Yeah some of the guitar will be taken out at some point, I had a chat with a friend last night and he says what you said so he taught me about click tracks and whatnot.
I'm going to strip the troubling section right back and build it back up using the click track and see how it goes.

Yours is sweet as always, sorry not very constructive!

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/callous-stm-analog-in-1

Updated Callous, mic'd it up a bit better and spent a week practicing it. It's all fingerpicking so trying to keep my rhythm really steady to get that Galloping western sound I'm liking so much. It's also in Eb now since I restrung my classical and am trying a lower tuning so I can keep pace better with my singing since I struggle with a lot of the high notes I want to sing.



https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/alto-abyss-analog-in-1

Been fiddling around with something that doesn't have a lot of form. Practicing with a classical a lot kind of changed how I noodle.




https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/rust-rafter-analog-in-1

One more to celebrate getting my recording stuff set up. I'll be doing more tomorrow.




e;

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/hen-aspen-analog-in-1


Forgot I wrote this one too, holy poo poo I write so much during my lunch breaks.




e;

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/skullcrusher-mountain-quick-cover-analog-in-1

Have a 3 am cover of skull crusher mountain

its curtains for Kevin fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Oct 4, 2015

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Whooole lotta replies here fellas. Excuse the massive quote blocks. If it's a problem I'll edit it out. Trying to give some meaningful feedback to everyone on this page.

peter gabriel posted:

So here's the first thing I have recorded on my own, it's turning out OK and isn't finished, no vocals, crappy mix I guess and I need to edit out some guitar on the second half to leave room for singing but hey, it's a sketch!

https://soundcloud.com/yoitspgabz/the-hide

I wanted to try and create a nice atmospheric thing and it's succeeding I think, opinions and input gratefully received :)
I started listening to this before I read your post and got the intro feel to it, which is good! This is so groovy. The first first half reminds me of loving in the Bushes by Oasis but less Britpop-y if that makes sense. I am super looking forward to the finished piece! What sort of vocals do you have in mind? I disagree that it has too much lead in the second half, I think you need to just bump it down a notch and have it sit in the back while the vocals do their thing.

All The Lights Too is pretty great, and chill. How do you get that lead lick sound? The one at 0:14 specifically. It sounds great. I think the end needs a little lick like that to bring it back home. Aside from that, I'm loving this stuff. Definitely post some more when you get some vocals and stuff down.

GrunderGretch posted:

Well in that case.... Here's what i did with the ending I was working on..

https://soundcloud.com/miaandmonaco/never-stop
This is nice, I take it you're going with melodic metal sort of stuff? I don't like the bass though. It sounds like 8-bit basslines and seems to fight the rest of the feel. Also back off the reverb a bit I'd say (If that is reverb? I'm bad at these things). I checked out your other stuff on your Soundcloud too, specifically Seeking for advice. Definitely dig the bass on that much more. And it goes funk at the end! Are you intending on an instrumental project or are you aiming for vocals too? If the latter, don't go with a screamer. I dig screamers but this needs something a bit less in your face to let the guitar especially do its thing.

Yarbald posted:

Hi everyone! A couple weeks back I started jamming with some friends with the idea of doing something electronic; we're all used to playing guitars in bands, so it's been a lot of fun messing with synths and drum machines.I threw together a rough demo of something we've been working on. Not quite sure I feel on the mix. We don't really know where to take it, I like the chord changes when the guitar drops out about a third of the way through but feel it still needs more variety.

https://soundcloud.com/chillbreauxsux/confidence-trickster
I'm not an electronic guy really but I have always liked chill stuff (Especially trance but that's neither here nor there). The chord change bit needs to be brought forward a bit more I think. I would suggest having more of something to follow would be nice too, like a melody but not? That might be counter-productive to what you're doing though, I am not an expert at chillwave! I like it though.

Trig Discipline posted:

Here's the new thingy I'm working on.

https://soundcloud.com/danwarren/doomed

It's actually got lyrics and all that, but they're only half written and haven't been recorded yet.

It turns out to be loving hard hard to get vocal tracks recorded cleanly now that I live in the jungle because the cockatoos don't shut up until 8 PM and then the possums start fighting on the roof almost immediately and continue into the night. I haven't done much recording of actual sounds since I moved here over a year ago. Beautiful, though.
It's you! I have your album A Series Of Tasteful Nudes on my computer. I completely spaced you were a goon. This is completely the opposite of what I am used to from you! It is lovely though. I like your use of static/noise that floats in the right (?) ear. I think it'd be neat if as the song ends the static/noise builds up slightly (Not too much!). No idea whether that'd work but it seems like a good idea to me. Also, you have a band camp that still is just A Series Of Tasteful Nudes? Just want to make sure I'm not missing any other stuff you've put out!

NTT posted:

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/callous-stm-analog-in-1
Updated Callous, mic'd it up a bit better and spent a week practicing it. It's all fingerpicking so trying to keep my rhythm really steady to get that Galloping western sound I'm liking so much. It's also in Eb now since I restrung my classical and am trying a lower tuning so I can keep pace better with my singing since I struggle with a lot of the high notes I want to sing.

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/alto-abyss-analog-in-1
Been fiddling around with something that doesn't have a lot of form. Practicing with a classical a lot kind of changed how I noodle.

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/rust-rafter-analog-in-1
One more to celebrate getting my recording stuff set up. I'll be doing more tomorrow.

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/hen-aspen-analog-in-1
Forgot I wrote this one too, holy poo poo I write so much during my lunch breaks.

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/skullcrusher-mountain-quick-cover-analog-in-1
Have a 3 am cover of skull crusher mountain
Are you focused entirely on classical? I love it but I am a poor judge of classical guitar. Callous sounds like the second movement of something bigger to me. Like, something that transitions from a slower piece.
Alto Abyss is pretty but does sound like noodling. It's definitely a good technical achievement from where I'm sitting though!
Rust Rafter I love the little rhythmy lick you do and I think it'd be cool to do a sort of boomerang piece where you return to it every so often such that it keeps the flow going.
Hen Aspen is more familiar territory for me. I love the blend of strummy folky and that flamenco flair. Do you sing? I think you should, it's one of those songs where just vocals and one guitar would be great, without the need of drums or bass or anything else. The only downside to it is that it doesn't seem to be entirely in flow. It's got good rhythm and great licks but I think with addition of vocals (Or a second guitar? I dunno) it'd give a more solid idea of what you're doing with it.
Skullcrusher Mountain! I forgot about that song. Is good cover. Do more singing, I like your voice. You're a little muddy at points though. It's a good cover of it though.

silencekit posted:

Hi everybody! Haven't posted in here in a minute, but I thought I'd share some stuff I've been toying around with for the past couple weeks. I'm working on this collection of songs that are inspired by my experiences with furniture from IKEA. I've been recording a lot of demos using a super old Radio Shack tape recorder thing from the 80's, and then some using my iPhone, and maybe of most interest, this first one here that I tracked some rough parts for on Logic, then bounced onto tape on the same stupid player, then sent back into Logic from the tape player onto a single track. That disgusting/awesome fuzziness all over it is just from playback from the tape player. I was really happy with how messy it got:

FJELLSE

This second one is just a little iPhone ukulele demo that I could use some arrangement ideas for. Listening back now, I don't think it's nearly as good a song as I thought it was when I was writing it, but I like the chorus. Am I onto something, or does this suck:

KULLEN
I'm quoting you last (Not in order!) cause I have a few things to say.
First, FJELLSE is fun. It sounds so fuzzy in the best way. And it's catchy as hell. Are you going to be doing a full EP/album with this style? It's a really cool method and sound. KULLEN is much better than I think you think it is. I've never been a super huge fan of ukuleles but given your other stuff I can kinda picture how it'd sound as a more full song and even it doesn't make it further than demo it's still a good song. I just wish some (A lot) of your demos were longer. I really like your voice and choice of melody though, that's always been spot on for me.

Before I post any stuff from myself (I have a couple I guess? Writer's block sucks) I gotta say, and I hope it's not too off-topic, that Mass Canon was probably one of the best music purchases I've made. Like, ever. Worth every cent. I liked it when I first heard it but according to WMP it's not only my most played album of 2015 but Spin is my most played song of 2015 and one of the most played songs in my library. It is crazy good, and there's nothing about it I don't like. I didn't want to revive the thread (It seems archived now?) but I'd love to hear about the building and creation of that EP, given I only heard a few of the demos. Seriously great work and I hope I'm not fanboying too hard, I'm resisting asking you a bunch of questions about it.


Anyway, some stuff from me I guess.

First piece is the electric version of a song I was working on for a bit, called Daylight. My bassist finally got a chance to use chords on bass. It's not mixed and there's no drumtrack or vocals, but it was put together in a few hours as a piece to send a demo disc out to a potential drummer. I'm pretty proud of it to be honest. The picking was a last second addition. Fun fact, the tuning of this song is DGDFAD, aka D standard with the D string kept the same. It makes for some nice droney chords.

This is the original, acoustic version of the song. It has vocals and scratch lyrics. I am not a singer. I may be doing vocal duties until we find a real singer though? You'll notice that the rhythm is different. Basically, my friend and I had trouble transitioning from the picking to the acoustic rhythm cleanly. So we got lazy and made the electric version easier. Any preferences of the two? I hate my voice but I kind of dig the lazy, melancholic vocals of the acoustic, minus some lines.

Third, is a piece that is basically Daylight, only in standard tuning. It's called Humidity (Cause it's humid here. I am bad at names), but we're thinking of using it as an outro and calling it Daylight Part 2. More to the point, it was a piece forced out because I wanted to produce something after like a month of nothing.

Last, not sure I posted this before but it was the result of a long noodle to a loop, cut and edited for some semblance of actual song. It's called G#m Mod. I dig it. It sounds chill.

Sorry for the huge post guys!

silencekit
May 1, 2014


syntaxfunction posted:

First piece is the electric version of a song I was working on for a bit, called Daylight. My bassist finally got a chance to use chords on bass. It's not mixed and there's no drumtrack or vocals, but it was put together in a few hours as a piece to send a demo disc out to a potential drummer. I'm pretty proud of it to be honest. The picking was a last second addition. Fun fact, the tuning of this song is DGDFAD, aka D standard with the D string kept the same. It makes for some nice droney chords.

Yeah, you shouldn't have much trouble finding a drummer with this. Totally solid recording, and you and your bassist sound like you play together pretty well. Did you guys play to a click? If so, it might not be a terrible idea to experiment with some scratch drums to give yourselves an idea of what sort of drums you'd be after for it. You may surprise yourself, and stuff like this is often useful to show to potential drummers, even if the fake drums sound like garbage.

Definitely missing the vocals from the demo, though. The drone is cool, but vocals give us something easier to hang on to. I think I've told you this before, but I like your voice, even though you seem to be kind of scared of it. You should track your vocals over this electric version and repost. And put them louder in the mix than you think you should...and use intense reverb with a loud wet signal...interested to hear another iteration of this.

syntaxfunction posted:

First, FJELLSE is fun. It sounds so fuzzy in the best way. And it's catchy as hell. Are you going to be doing a full EP/album with this style? It's a really cool method and sound. KULLEN is much better than I think you think it is. I've never been a super huge fan of ukuleles but given your other stuff I can kinda picture how it'd sound as a more full song and even it doesn't make it further than demo it's still a good song. I just wish some (A lot) of your demos were longer. I really like your voice and choice of melody though, that's always been spot on for me.

Thanks, man! I liked the fuzz, too. When I first started working on the IKEA project, yeah, the plan was to do a full EP using that technique, but I had some computer issues, and my recording interface wasn't working for a while, and I kind of lost all the momentum. The bigger takeaway for me was a different song that I wrote (inspired by my desk chair) called MARKUS. I haven't done a really great recording of it, in part because I don't know what to do with it, but that little sketch is a pretty good indicator of where it is currently. That's a live take recorded to 2-tracks, guitar and vox, and there are plenty of fuckups, but the idea is there. I'm all done with the IKEA songs for now, though. It was a good writing prompt, and if you don't do that poo poo when you have writer's block, you really, really should. I get incredibly inspired when I have a very specific set of guidelines. Assign yourself a topic, and force yourself to adhere to it. Give yourself 15 minutes max to work on a song. If at the end of 15 minutes, you still have a ton to say, keep going on it. If not, move on to the next song. It's a really fun way to work, and you end up with a ton of content. Even if the songs don't materialize in the way you hoped they would, you'll remember a lick or a fragment of melody from one of them and end up using it for something else.

syntaxfunction posted:

Before I post any stuff from myself (I have a couple I guess? Writer's block sucks) I gotta say, and I hope it's not too off-topic, that Mass Canon was probably one of the best music purchases I've made. Like, ever. Worth every cent. I liked it when I first heard it but according to WMP it's not only my most played album of 2015 but Spin is my most played song of 2015 and one of the most played songs in my library. It is crazy good, and there's nothing about it I don't like. I didn't want to revive the thread (It seems archived now?) but I'd love to hear about the building and creation of that EP, given I only heard a few of the demos. Seriously great work and I hope I'm not fanboying too hard, I'm resisting asking you a bunch of questions about it.

Thank you very much, dude. Sincerely appreciate the kind words. We worked really, really hard on that goddamn thing, and because studio time in Brooklyn is really expensive, there are things on it that sound rushed and sloppy to me, but I'm still really proud of what we did. I think we're recording a couple new songs as a 4-piece at the end of the month, so stay tuned! If people don't know what Syntaxfunction is talking about, a long time ago I posted some solo ukulele sketches to this thread that later ended up on my band's debut EP. If you're curious, the band is called Trash Gendar and the EP is called Mass Canon.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

syntaxfunction posted:

I started listening to this before I read your post and got the intro feel to it, which is good! This is so groovy. The first first half reminds me of loving in the Bushes by Oasis but less Britpop-y if that makes sense. I am super looking forward to the finished piece! What sort of vocals do you have in mind? I disagree that it has too much lead in the second half, I think you need to just bump it down a notch and have it sit in the back while the vocals do their thing.

All The Lights Too is pretty great, and chill. How do you get that lead lick sound? The one at 0:14 specifically. It sounds great. I think the end needs a little lick like that to bring it back home. Aside from that, I'm loving this stuff. Definitely post some more when you get some vocals and stuff down.


Wow thanks for the feedback, it really means a lot to me (in a genuine way) because I am pretty nervy about my stuff and extremely new to recording on my own.

For the first tune the vocals I have in mind will sit on the second half only, with some harmony vocals over the part just before and it'll be 2 phrases only. I don't want it to be a Verse Chorus Verse Chorus song, that was never the idea. I want it to barely even be a song in some ways, however my vocal mic has now arrived so I am all out of excuses not to do it!

For All The Lights I am going to strip back the parts I am unsure of, I think it's a timing thing and I have since been shown a few tips to tighten things up a bit so I will re record it soon, I was losing hope a bit but an experienced buddy gave me some tips and a pep talk so watch this space on that, it's a full song in reality with vocals and everything which I can now record and tighten up, so the ending on that recording is sort of near the actual middle of the full thing.

The thick lead sound will be transplanted to later in the song i think as a break before the bridge, how I got it is really simple ha ha:

Big Muff pedal with everything turned to full on it
Les Paul bridge pickup
Tube amp on clean

That specific part will be recorded again as I want the amp loud so the lead tone is just barely walking a line between smooth and thick and everything falling to pieces in a hail of uncontrollable feedback.

Thanks for the input again :) I have another 5 songs now to go at and I am getting there slowly!

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

syntaxfunction posted:

It's you! I have your album A Series Of Tasteful Nudes on my computer. I completely spaced you were a goon. This is completely the opposite of what I am used to from you! It is lovely though. I like your use of static/noise that floats in the right (?) ear. I think it'd be neat if as the song ends the static/noise builds up slightly (Not too much!). No idea whether that'd work but it seems like a good idea to me. Also, you have a band camp that still is just A Series Of Tasteful Nudes? Just want to make sure I'm not missing any other stuff you've put out!

It is me, glad to hear you like my Nudes! I am also mofolotopo, but I don't use that account much any more. I have a bunch of stuff that's come out over the years, but pretty much everything is unlike everything else so you might not like any of it. The albums are all here for free:

https://danlwarren.wordpress.com/music/

I'm still kinda mulling over what (if anything) my next big album-y undertaking is going to be, but I do post tidbits relatively regularly to my Soundcloud and podcast.

Anyway, thanks for the comments! I was actually thinking about bringing the noise back in at some point, I'll definitely muck around with that. I'm at the airport now with no headphones so I can't listen to anything, but I'll try to remember to have a listen to what you've posted when I get home. Cheers!

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

peter gabriel posted:

Wow thanks for the feedback, it really means a lot to me (in a genuine way) because I am pretty nervy about my stuff and extremely new to recording on my own.

...

The thick lead sound will be transplanted to later in the song i think as a break before the bridge, how I got it is really simple ha ha:

Big Muff pedal with everything turned to full on it
Les Paul bridge pickup
Tube amp on clean

That specific part will be recorded again as I want the amp loud so the lead tone is just barely walking a line between smooth and thick and everything falling to pieces in a hail of uncontrollable feedback.

Thanks for the input again :) I have another 5 songs now to go at and I am getting there slowly!

No problem, I really enjoy the stuff you've put up. I gotta try to get that sound. I have a tube amp, an LP and a Muff, so it shouldn't be that hard, right? Right?!

Trig Discipline posted:

It is me, glad to hear you like my Nudes! I am also mofolotopo, but I don't use that account much any more. I have a bunch of stuff that's come out over the years, but pretty much everything is unlike everything else so you might not like any of it. The albums are all here for free:

https://danlwarren.wordpress.com/music/
Sweet, I'm slowly going through the catalogue. I remember your other username but I didn't put two and two together. I'm all for different styles, so it should be a fun journey!


silencekit posted:

MARKUS, IKEA and writing prompts
Good advice. I usually try to just write anything, even if it's a few chords or a riff. MARKUS is such a pretty song. I should've mentioned I listened to the entire IKEA album of yours. I'd love to know if IKEA was just bedroom demos or had some pro polish to it? I am so bad at mixing and even EQing stuff. I have no idea what I'm doing.

silencekit posted:

Yeah, you shouldn't have much trouble finding a drummer with this. Totally solid recording, and you and your bassist sound like you play together pretty well. Did you guys play to a click? If so, it might not be a terrible idea to experiment with some scratch drums to give yourselves an idea of what sort of drums you'd be after for it. You may surprise yourself, and stuff like this is often useful to show to potential drummers, even if the fake drums sound like garbage.

Definitely missing the vocals from the demo, though. The drone is cool, but vocals give us something easier to hang on to. I think I've told you this before, but I like your voice, even though you seem to be kind of scared of it. You should track your vocals over this electric version and repost. And put them louder in the mix than you think you should...and use intense reverb with a loud wet signal...interested to hear another iteration of this.
We didn't actually play to a click, it was a count in, then go, usually cause I like drum tracks to play with but my friend not so much. So unfortunately the drumtracks line up kinda, but not quite. Which sucks, and I'm frankly too lazy to quantize everything to get it on track.

I did take your advice and put some vocals on, but today was my only free day and I have a sore throat which makes my usual singing even worse. I think this version is chopped together from two takes?
Here it is anyway: https://soundcloud.com/syntaxfunction/daylight-vocals

I'd like some feedback on the vocals specifically. I've never taken any classes or even sang around the house so it's an alien experience for me still. I am aware I have a very limited range.

Someone post some more stuff!

silencekit
May 1, 2014


syntaxfunction posted:

Good advice. I usually try to just write anything, even if it's a few chords or a riff. MARKUS is such a pretty song. I should've mentioned I listened to the entire IKEA album of yours. I'd love to know if IKEA was just bedroom demos or had some pro polish to it? I am so bad at mixing and even EQing stuff. I have no idea what I'm doing.

We didn't actually play to a click, it was a count in, then go, usually cause I like drum tracks to play with but my friend not so much. So unfortunately the drumtracks line up kinda, but not quite. Which sucks, and I'm frankly too lazy to quantize everything to get it on track.

I did take your advice and put some vocals on, but today was my only free day and I have a sore throat which makes my usual singing even worse. I think this version is chopped together from two takes?
Here it is anyway: https://soundcloud.com/syntaxfunction/daylight-vocals

I'd like some feedback on the vocals specifically. I've never taken any classes or even sang around the house so it's an alien experience for me still. I am aware I have a very limited range.

Someone post some more stuff!

First of all, regardless of how you feel about your vox in general or on this take specifically, it already makes the song stronger, because it reads as song, and not as 2 dudes jamming. I really like the double tracked vocals in the chorus on this. It thickens everything, and accentuates the shift into the chorus. Out of curiosity, did you try doing the same for the verses? I guess my gut reaction would be to tell you to try singing while you play your guitar and then try singing it without playing and just listening to the monitors and see how it affects your delivery. Often, I find that I can get a more natural, looser sound out of my voice if I am playing while I sing, as if I am performing. I think there are moments (in the verses) where you sound a little stiff, and it might be interesting to see if singing while you play loosens you up. Alternatively, have a whiskey.

Dude, also, you should always play to a click if you're tracking stuff on a DAW. Unless you're just recording straight onto your iPhone voice memos, or recording something that's just a live take without anybody else, there's no excuse to not play to a click. It makes your life so much easier, especially since you're trying to build some demo stuff to attract a drummer.

The IKEA stuff is all iPhone demos, except for FJELLSE and MARKUS and this other one that I've been fighting with forever. I've finally gotten it written the way I want it (after like a month), and now I'm trying to record it properly, and everything sounds like poo poo to me. I may have some time to kill this afternoon, so I could probably finish up a scratchy tracked demo, or at the very least an iphone one to get some input. And dude, I'm also loving horrendous at mixing and EQing.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Noted, thanks. I tried the doubling for the entire thing but it felt a bit too much. I should try the guitar/no guitar trick next time. It'll probably be my next upload once my voice comes back (It decided to completely die on me today). I'd like to try and get a take with vocals closer to my other stuff. I do agree that it sounds like an actual song with vocals though. I had a conversation with my friend and we agreed that we should start tracking vocals for things because, as you said, without them it sounds like two guys jamming and not a song.

I know I should use a click track, and funnily enough I often do for demos I record myself, but when I record with my friend he doesn't like them. I think it's a combination of him feeling it's unnatural and, more likely, it accentuates when he/we gently caress up. I'm cool with doing more takes, he gets really frustrated though. I'm trying to convince him to start tracking everything with a click or, preferably, a drum track. It's partly my fault for just agreeing when he doesn't want a track set up.

For iPhone stuff it sounds so much more polished than I'd expected. Chuck that demo up when you finish it!

silencekit
May 1, 2014



Gotta convince your buddy that the click is gonna be the cornerstone of recording together. It's a tool, not an obstacle. Regardless, looking forward to seeing what else you guys come up with. Keep churning out the hits.

I put up two other things on the IKEA album:

BJORNLOKA RUTA - This was the first one of the project, and I tracked it and got it all polished on Logic, and waited until yesterday to give it the whole bounce to tape/send back to Logic treatment, and it's much, much cooler now. I'm quite happy with the results, and I love it as the opener.

We Builders - iPhone demo. This is the one I was talking about yesterday that I've been trying to write for like a month. Forgive the obvious glaring fuckup in the little run I attempt at like 1:25. I get it right the second time. I'm particularly interested in hearing feedback on this one. I have tried tracking it a few different ways--vocals drenched in reverb/echo, slapback guitars, ukulele only, 808 heavy, xylophone hits...nothing has really struck my fancy yet, except the xylophone, honestly.

I bought a child's starter xylophone on Amazon recently for $20, and it's one of the best musical investments I've ever made. I'll post something with it soon.

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless

silencekit posted:

Gotta convince your buddy that the click is gonna be the cornerstone of recording together. It's a tool, not an obstacle. Regardless, looking forward to seeing what else you guys come up with. Keep churning out the hits.

I put up two other things on the IKEA album:

BJORNLOKA RUTA - This was the first one of the project, and I tracked it and got it all polished on Logic, and waited until yesterday to give it the whole bounce to tape/send back to Logic treatment, and it's much, much cooler now. I'm quite happy with the results, and I love it as the opener.

We Builders - iPhone demo. This is the one I was talking about yesterday that I've been trying to write for like a month. Forgive the obvious glaring fuckup in the little run I attempt at like 1:25. I get it right the second time. I'm particularly interested in hearing feedback on this one. I have tried tracking it a few different ways--vocals drenched in reverb/echo, slapback guitars, ukulele only, 808 heavy, xylophone hits...nothing has really struck my fancy yet, except the xylophone, honestly.

I bought a child's starter xylophone on Amazon recently for $20, and it's one of the best musical investments I've ever made. I'll post something with it soon.

WE Builders has a really good upbeat sound to it and I like it! :) I keep expecting it to go somewhere but it just stays really simple; sometimes songs do a lot better because of that.

nanofibers and schematics have me lollin a bit though, those are big words to be using.



https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/lament-analog-in-1


Another formless piece I wrote entirely based on what sounded good to my ear. I really like it though.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

NTT posted:


https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/lament-analog-in-1


Another formless piece I wrote entirely based on what sounded good to my ear. I really like it though.

So, this is gorgeous. Keep doing this poo poo, for the good of humanity.


On a significantly less talented note, here's my latest modular electro goodness: tell me another one

silencekit
May 1, 2014


NTT posted:

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-staudt/lament-analog-in-1


Another formless piece I wrote entirely based on what sounded good to my ear. I really like it though.

Well this is awesome and totally bizarre. You come up with a lot of really cool harmonic changes when it makes that shift away from the droney stuff. But how can you bear to let it end on the V?! Nah, it's cool. You a Diablo II fan by chance?

sofullofhate posted:

On a significantly less talented note, here's my latest modular electro goodness: tell me another one

Super good stuff, as always. Particularly impressed with 1) how cinematic this one feels at its height of intensity 2) this very specific moment at like 3:37 where your clicky hi-hat thing freaks out and then vanishes. Have you ever thought about scoring something?

I wrote a dumb ukulele song called Netflix and Chill. Tell me which lead instrument should take a dumb solo to end it. I'm leaning toward dumb xylophone.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

silencekit posted:


Super good stuff, as always. Particularly impressed with 1) how cinematic this one feels at its height of intensity 2) this very specific moment at like 3:37 where your clicky hi-hat thing freaks out and then vanishes. Have you ever thought about scoring something?

I wrote a dumb ukulele song called Netflix and Chill. Tell me which lead instrument should take a dumb solo to end it. I'm leaning toward dumb xylophone.

Thanks, man. I have actually done some soundtrack work in the past (a couple of animated shorts) and would really love to do more. That's a common bit of feedback I get, so I guess I really need to make it happen. :effort:

Netflix and Chill is actually really beautiful. I definitely vote for xylophone solo to end it. Something slow and thoughtful though, like you'd hear in an Eels song.

silencekit
May 1, 2014


sofullofhate posted:

Thanks, man. I have actually done some soundtrack work in the past (a couple of animated shorts) and would really love to do more. That's a common bit of feedback I get, so I guess I really need to make it happen. :effort:

Netflix and Chill is actually really beautiful. I definitely vote for xylophone solo to end it. Something slow and thoughtful though, like you'd hear in an Eels song.

Dude, link to the animated shorts.

Xylophone it is. I'll try to track something tomorrow. Definitely slow and thoughtful.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

silencekit posted:

Dude, link to the animated shorts.

Xylophone it is. I'll try to track something tomorrow. Definitely slow and thoughtful.

Rad. Can't wait!

Here's a short I scored (it's a teaser for an animated series that I would have scored completely, but unfortunately never made it off the ground):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlKeaWnAJs

It's unfortunate, because I really loved working with the animator / writer team (they're old friends of mine) and the series would have been absolutely incredible.

The other two don't appear to be on YouTube. I'll ping the owners and see if they mind if I upload the versions I have on my archive drive.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

sofullofhate posted:

Rad. Can't wait!

Here's a short I scored (it's a teaser for an animated series that I would have scored completely, but unfortunately never made it off the ground):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlKeaWnAJs

It's unfortunate, because I really loved working with the animator / writer team (they're old friends of mine) and the series would have been absolutely incredible.

The other two don't appear to be on YouTube. I'll ping the owners and see if they mind if I upload the versions I have on my archive drive.

Hey get over here and do something for this thread that never really got off the ground:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3701911

In fact, everybody else do that too.

silencekit
May 1, 2014


sofullofhate posted:

Rad. Can't wait!

Here's a short I scored (it's a teaser for an animated series that I would have scored completely, but unfortunately never made it off the ground):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlKeaWnAJs

It's unfortunate, because I really loved working with the animator / writer team (they're old friends of mine) and the series would have been absolutely incredible.

The other two don't appear to be on YouTube. I'll ping the owners and see if they mind if I upload the versions I have on my archive drive.

Holy poo poo, dude. I would watch the gently caress out of this. What happened? I genuinely really, really like the art, and yeah, obviously your music is right on the mark. Why isn't there more of this?

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

silencekit posted:

Holy poo poo, dude. I would watch the gently caress out of this. What happened? I genuinely really, really like the art, and yeah, obviously your music is right on the mark. Why isn't there more of this?

Yeah, I would have too :(

Basically it's difficult to be an artist in Canada, especially outside of major urban centres. I ping them at least once a year to say "hey guys, we should get this off the ground!" though.

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silencekit
May 1, 2014


Difficult to be an artist anywhere. You guys should find a way to make it work. That poo poo looked very, very promising.

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