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I was going to post this a while back, the stuff Red Bull Music Academy is doing these days is pretty neat actually. Their Fireside Chat with Ferraro is great, and a really good way to get into his music if you haven't heard it before.
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Watching that Ferraro interview posted earlier (http://www.the-drone.com/magazine/james-ferraro/) and I think my favorite comment is toward the beginning where he says something like "even people living in some kind of tribal situation in the wilderness know what an iPad is now, we like to think that they don't, but they do." I think that's a really true and important point that should be made more often, that sort of the whole fetishism for "world music" or "authenticity" or whatever is based on people trying to pretend there's some primitive people who are outside neoliberalism or whatever and serve as a kind of nostalgic outlet for first world people's frustrations or fantasies, and is pretty much bullshit. edit: Haha and on a less intellectual level I totally identify with this from the OPN interview too, pretty much my exact experience minus the dad: quote:OPN: There was nothing about us that was cool and I still feel extremely awkward to this day. Nothing has changed in that sense. My high school wasn’t cool. There weren’t any punks or any indie rock presence. I was missing that entirely, I didn’t have that perspective. The weirdest thing going on in my high school was the theatre kids doing pirouettes or reciting whatever. There was nothing going on. acephalousuniverse fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Mar 12, 2013 |
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Remember how we were talking earlier about the connection of Memphis rap to this style of music? Well....smoke sumthin bitch posted:Legowelt released a 2nd memphis rap mix a few months back and it's just as good as the first. It includes a very dope car audio shop advert by dj spanish fly which just might blow a hole through your sub.
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Thanks for the words on Oneohtrix Point Never. I remember when Replica came out, but I dismissed as some synthpop kind of thing. I'm listening to Rifts right now and I can't believe I have 28 more tracks to look forward to. This is perfect. What else might I like if Rifts is doing it for me? I'm already into other ambient stuff like Carbon Based Lifeforms, which seems similar.
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Steallar Om Source has a very similar vibe, check out Ocean Woman. It's got a relaxed, improvisatory feel but the subject matter is full of light and shade, perhaps the fantasies of a woman drowning at sea, living a new imagined life within her last gulps. You may also be drawn to Steve Hauschildt's "Tragedy and Geometry", which is a more precise, considered affair that indicates towards a deep appreciation of Kraftwerk. Furthermore can I reccomend my Legowelt post on the second page for more synth excursions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1SJkkCTcI o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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On poo poo don't forget Event Cloak! https://vimeo.com/26242631
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Wow Stellar Om Source owns.me your dad posted:Thanks for the words on Oneohtrix Point Never. I remember when Replica came out, but I dismissed as some synthpop kind of thing. I'm listening to Rifts right now and I can't believe I have 28 more tracks to look forward to. This is perfect. Haha synthpop? Oneohtrix has a bunch of other releases in the same style. I already mentioned Returnal, but I'd also recommend the ep Ruined Lives and his collaboration with Mark McGuire (previously in the band Emeralds) Skyramps - Days of Thunder. Here is a sample song, which is just gorgeous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH_ygB_uZ0o As for other artists, I'm finding that the previously posted Legowelt side-project The Psychic Stewardess scratches the same itch for me. Some Others: Emeralds - Does It Look Like I'm Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpaLm88PHz0 Dopplereffekt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ciBrKUefM8 (one of Oneohtrix's older influences for Rifts, there are a lot but I'm not familiar with many of them) Raglani - Real Colors Of The Physical World - http://vimeo.com/54436251 (haven't fully listened to this album yet, but it seems to be similar in style)
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oiseaux morts 1994, are you aware of any location in which the Smackos albums you posted can be downloaded? He took his store down and I'm not sure if the music was distributed for free anyway because nowhere sells it. Not a illegal files request I'm happy to pay for the album if there's anywhere it can be bought, but I don't want to give money to some random bandcamp just for mp3s.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Haha synthpop? Yeah - I have no idea why. Lord Krangdar posted:Skyramps - Days of Thunder These are all great, thanks.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Wow Stellar Om Source owns. Yeah Christelle Gualdi is a bit of a legend. I think Ocean Woman is her best record, but she's done a range of stuff different tweaks on her aesthetic which I'm still absorbing. I think most notably, is her incredibly evocative artwork:     That last one is my favorite, for the Oneohtrix joint "Zones Without People"
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That is a really cool album. I put it on for the first time one morning a few months ago... had to turn it off for my girlfriend, it was making her queasy and dizzy ha. Everything on Editions Mego is weird and usually worth listening to.
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me your dad posted:Thanks for the words on Oneohtrix Point Never. I remember when Replica came out, but I dismissed as some synthpop kind of thing. I'm listening to Rifts right now and I can't believe I have 28 more tracks to look forward to. This is perfect. Rifts is absolutely fantastic. I've been hooked on it since it was reissued last year. "Melancholy Descriptions of Simple 3D Environments" is such a perfect song title. It lends well to the "mini-narratives" going on throughout the record (or at least I'm just super high) and it's neat how well they all blend together and how it doesn't really drag despite being like 3 hours long. I was really happy when I found out he had released a bunch of EPs (and stuff under different aliases) after listening to Replica and Returnal on repeat for a long time and not knowing much else about the rest of his discography. You might like earlier Emeralds stuff as well if you haven't heard them yet. The album Shader by Sacred Tapestry (aka Vektroid, aka NEW DREAMS LTD.) reminds me of some tracks on Rifts as well. Edit: Someone already mentioned Emeralds. Dang. Well definitely check out their older releases, too! His Eccojams tape released under the pseudonym Chuck Persons is definitely worth a spin too. sadfly fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Oh man, I have been watching vaporwave grow from a curiosity to an actual genre for a year now, but I've barely been able to talk about it because my music-nerd friends either moved away or were never the type to be into this style of music in the first place. It's kinda funny that I never really got into Ferraro's music too much, but the New Dreams LTD. series has been so revelatory for me that i have listened to Sushi and the similar side projects, but that's more in the realm of Fatima's stuff, which I got into at the beginning of the fall. The recent crop of new releases this year in vaporwave have been fun, and really strengthen the core of the genre. Projects like Eco Virtual (http://www.youtube.com/user/EcoVirtualTV) or 회사AUTO (http://ailanthusrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/line-ne)have done a great job at playing with the conventions set up by the previous generation of innovators and really set a new bar for the next wave of artists to crop up, whenever that is. I've also been following Ventla, who has been releasing albums since the end of 2011 at a pace of a bit more than once a month. It's somewhere between vaporwave and Cornelius/Shibuya-kei inspired Japanese pop. He varies wildly between the the two, sometimes within a release and sometimes for a whole album or two in a row.
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Arpanet makes transhumaist paranoia techno. Here is how they described their 2002 album Wireless Internet quote:“We are atomic and sub-atomic particles and we are wireless.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Rb6JheGKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAx0OELjI38
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I do find the ARPANET project a bit clumsy and heavy handed, and some of the music on the Wireless Internet is a bit poo poo. But considering we're talking 2002, its vision is way ahead of its time.
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ARPANET is closely associated with Drexciya(Gerald Donald was in both, James Stinson was the face of Drexciya however). Drexciya bumps up more closely against classic Detroit techno, but is not entirely dissimilar to ARPANET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86uitcHHfE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6q_w2mI2ks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN5ffrlBPrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMbK631xevU edit: oh Detroit Escalator Company is also quite nice quote:Neil Ollivierra is the Detroit Escalator Co., whose cosmic down-tempo landscapes paint detailed audio pictures of his native Detroit. From his role in the first wave in Detroit and taking part in Transmat, Derrick May's label, Ollivierra saw techno evolve from its earliest stages. Ollivierra's novel Reality Slap focused on his early days in the scene and adventures as a young socialite and part of Transmat. Though demand for the book was high, it was never legally published, as Ollivierra never sought to make money off his efforts. (The only way to get a copy of the thick book was through a photocopy of the original or through a website that Ollivierra maintained and has since taken down.) In 1996 he released Soundtrack (313) on Ferox, an album that captures the essence of Detroit through sound bites that Ollivierra collected by riding his bike around the city. The album captured in sound what Ollivierra wrote about in Reality Slap: His exploration of Detroit as a melodic, powerful, and vulnerable city. Despite the praise of his first album, it wasn't until three years later that Ollivierra resurfaced with the track "Plumb" on the Transmat compilation Time:Space. In 2000, Ollivierra left his position at Transmat to focus on his music and painting. His sophomore album, Black Buildings, was issued the same year on Peacefrog records. The album, originally planned for a fall 2000 release, was pushed back further due to glitches in the cover artwork, also done by Ollivierra. ashgromnies fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Ha great to see Drexciya mentioned anywhere. They're just insanely good.
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:I do find the ARPANET project a bit clumsy and heavy handed, and some of the music on the Wireless Internet is a bit poo poo. But considering we're talking 2002, its vision is way ahead of its time. I like Wireless Internet more than Far Side Virtual musically (except for maybe Dubai Dream Tone). At least it isn't Exo...kinda hard to take more than one or two tracks divorced from the visuals. edit: Here is my favorite Exo track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQYbd5WFrk the black husserl fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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This thread is so loving wierd to me. I've skirted the edges of this stuff before without discovering it; I only caught onto Games last year and Gatekeeper and dug the reimagining of sounds that went dead 20-30 years ago going on there. I dunno if its ironic, or nostalgic, or both. Old-Tunes-era-BoC which someone mentioned obviously, though that's different too. poo poo, I've even made stuff that someone commented "hey thats like that whole vaporwave aesthetic" and not got it. Then I get in this thread and it's like finding out a bunch of people have been plundering the contents of my bedroom circa 1986 for artistic inspiration. I have a load of new stuff to listen to and get my head round.
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HauntedRobot posted:This thread is so loving wierd to me. I've skirted the edges of this stuff before without discovering it; I only caught onto Games last year and Gatekeeper and dug the reimagining of sounds that went dead 20-30 years ago going on there. I dunno if its ironic, or nostalgic, or both. Old-Tunes-era-BoC which someone mentioned obviously, though that's different too. poo poo, I've even made stuff that someone commented "hey thats like that whole vaporwave aesthetic" and not got it. It's none of these things, it's just ppl expressing themselves musically. Check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqsCXle839Y
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Took a lot of effort to find this rare JF jam, it's the FSV thing. The mutilated Steve Jobs alien head is something he'd been working on for a while. Only released for the Primvera Sound festival. Genuis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoQb7MNWPRc
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:Took a lot of effort to find this rare JF jam, it's the FSV thing. The mutilated Steve Jobs alien head is something he'd been working on for a while. Only released for the Primvera Sound festival. Genuis woah
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:Took a lot of effort to find this rare JF jam, it's the FSV thing. The mutilated Steve Jobs alien head is something he'd been working on for a while. Only released for the Primvera Sound festival. Genuis Holy poo poo! This was called Gecko Afterlife - EARTH JUMP in another vid, but it was taken down, and I've been spending AGES trying to find an mp3. Thank you so much. This song is unreal. Here's the art for it:  sadfly fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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Cold is out now. I'm only like 4 tracks in but it's really next level stuff.
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Ferraro's Cold Mixtape is out now: http://t.co/po9Rus9WSK efb
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It's pretty great. I thought the first five tracks or so were a bit unconvincing (not a fan of Doves, to be honest) but it gains a lot of momentum around Outro and just floats from there. I'm really digging Sentinel at the moment. Really curious as to what kind of gear he's using these days. I feel like this is the first release of his that I could play at a party and people might actually dig it.
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I read on Altered Zones that he used a Mac Book Pro and Garage Band for FSV, although he probably used a bunch of different stuff to achieve whatever goal he had in mind. Cold's a mixed bag. There's some absolutely great stuff on there (E178 TH, Rata, Gargoyles) and then some utter wank. Sometimes the off-key autotune works, sometimes it doesn't. His mastery of electronic music idioms from trap to piano hardcore is ever-evident though. Of course you kind of learn to accept that JF just makes stuff in one sitting and puts it out pretty quickly, so I can kind of deal with it... although here's hoping he moves on to a new concept soon (he's been on the same tip since BEBETUNES) - that's what makes him so great.
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:I read on Altered Zones that he used a Mac Book Pro and Garage Band for FSV, although he probably used a bunch of different stuff to achieve whatever goal he had in mind. I bet he's still using Garageband for some of those vocal tracks, but some of the instrumentals are pretty drat sophisticated and I wouldn't be surprised if he was using a more complex DAW such as Ableton. And after multiple listens I would have to agree, it's a bit spotty but all told it might just be the best mixtape he's put out yet. A lot of these tracks have that retro, afro-futurism vibe that totally reminds me of early Detroit techno... just with really sparse beats. Dove has grown on me a little bit. In a way it seems to recall the cheesed out persona he assumed throughout Nightdolls With Hairspray.
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Is there a good blog that keeps up with this sort of music and/or posts tracks or reviews or videos or whatever? I liked Altered Zones a lot while it existed, and I've seen some of these artists mentioned on Gorilla vs Bear from time to time, but is there an especially good site that I can subscribe to and be fed a constant stream of this stuff?
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:Took a lot of effort to find this rare JF jam, it's the FSV thing. The mutilated Steve Jobs alien head is something he'd been working on for a while. Only released for the Primvera Sound festival. Genuis In case anyone wants the mp3, you can get it here legally. (I didn't see it mentioned in the Youtube anywhere)
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Masonic Youth posted:Is there a good blog that keeps up with this sort of music and/or posts tracks or reviews or videos or whatever? I liked Altered Zones a lot while it existed, and I've seen some of these artists mentioned on Gorilla vs Bear from time to time, but is there an especially good site that I can subscribe to and be fed a constant stream of this stuff? I like Tiny Mix Tapes, but I know some people are put off by their often hyperbolic and self indulgent leanings so your mileage may vary (for example, last year they gave a glowing review and highest recommendation to the debut album by reality TV's "Teen Mom" Farrah Abraham). They do regularly cover the vast majority of musicians listed in this thread. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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The TMT post about Cold seems to be a peice of fan-fiction between Ferraro and Triad God. Suffice to say I do not read this website.
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Tiny Mix Tapes used to be really good, it seems like vaporwave pretty much threw them into the deep end and now every review is a sub-pitchfork college term paper / creative writing exercise.
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:The TMT post about Cold seems to be a peice of fan-fiction between Ferraro and Triad God. Suffice to say I do not read this website. Case in point. I'd compare their writing to Ferraro releases: very hit and miss (just like the Cold mixtape); they're at least trying to do something interesting with their respective mediums but their experiments aren't always successful. I think we can agree that there's room for experimentation in criticism, right? Just like your original post in this thread captures some of the essence of music you're talking about by seeding the text with so many hyperlinks. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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Yes, I agree. But generally I would prefer my criticism to not come in prose form but more as an experimental, unstructured academic essay
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Lord Krangdar posted:last year they gave a glowing review and highest recommendation to the debut album by reality TV's "Teen Mom" Farrah Abraham).
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Masonic Youth posted:To be fair, that album is a must-listen to anyone with an interest in truly bizarre music. I would actually compare her, favorably, to Jandek. I must confess I didn't click that link until you made that comparison (sorry Krangdar), but yeah, that's definitely quite a piece of outsider art.
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Lord Krangdar posted:I like Tiny Mix Tapes, but I know some people are put off by their often hyperbolic and self indulgent leanings so your mileage may vary (for example, last year they gave a glowing review and highest recommendation to the debut album by reality TV's "Teen Mom" Farrah Abraham). They do regularly cover the vast majority of musicians listed in this thread. That album is so much better than the Grimes/Purity Ring stuff, wow.
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Method Mango posted:In case anyone wants the mp3, you can get it here legally. (I didn't see it mentioned in the Youtube anywhere) Fantastic. As I mentioned earlier, the track was previously on YouTube as EARTH JUMP under the pseudonym Gecko Afterlife, which leads me to speculate that more tracks like this may surface some day. What did you mean by mutilated Steve Jobs alien head? I didn't see anything but that sounds brilliant.
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