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blugu64 posted:You guys have me looking at cheap Crown Victorias now, but I have a question. Top anchor point for a car seat.
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Mar 17, 2013 16:52
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Child seat anchor point
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Mar 17, 2013 16:52
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Attachment for the other really sexy handcuff position. Or LATCH, either way.
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Mar 17, 2013 16:56
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Delivery McGee posted:14", have you noticed any craziness with the wiring yet? Mine was competently returned to stock when it was sold out of service, but I've heard horror stories of retired city cop cars with quick and dirty equipment installation/removal jobs. Like the one guy whose dome light comes on when he hits the horn button. Nothing works incorrectly but I've got gigantic harnesses out the rear end going to nowhere in the trunk and under the dash. Anyone know if Carfax works on retired cruisers for shits and giggles?
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Mar 17, 2013 19:05
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DJ Commie posted:Attachment for the other really sexy handcuff position.  I... I never thought of that before... 
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Mar 17, 2013 19:10
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:Nothing works incorrectly but I've got gigantic harnesses out the rear end going to nowhere in the trunk and under the dash. Anyone know if Carfax works on retired cruisers for shits and giggles? Should work, I grabbed this at random from eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006...=item19d9dd1c4b Its vehicle history report flags is for "Police Use," and there aren't a lot of records, since PDs have their own maintenance and don't have to register, but theoretically it should have a report for your car available.
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Mar 17, 2013 19:13
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Can anyone ID these alternate small-diameter hubcaps? I've only ever seen them on my P71 -- everyone else has the flatter kind. I miss that car :'(
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Mar 17, 2013 19:22
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kimbo305 posted:Can anyone ID these alternate small-diameter hubcaps? I've only ever seen them on my P71 -- everyone else has the flatter kind. They look like universal replacements, something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-5-Lug-...its=Make%3AFord|Model%3ARanger&hash=item588fa24935&vxp=mtr
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Mar 17, 2013 19:32
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That explains it. They were stamped with the Ford logo in the middle, but I guess that doesn't mean anything.
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Mar 17, 2013 19:34
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So... how realistic is it to find a deal as good as 14" got around NY? I might be in the US on a longish vacation this year and would very much prefer my very own land barge rather than renting some shitbox.
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Mar 17, 2013 20:47
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Not very realistic, 14" lucked out. Expect to pay around 3k for non ragged out cruiser with under 150k.
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Mar 17, 2013 22:27
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mobby_6kl posted:
Specifically a Panther flavored barge, or anything? Because there are always decent barges cheap around here.
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Mar 17, 2013 22:29
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That was kinda cool, my drivers door has always took a little bit of shouldering to get it to open or close, very heavy action. I just put a block of wood and a floor jack under it, and after a shot or two I got the door swinging and shutting the way it was meant to be.
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Mar 18, 2013 01:26
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Black88GTA posted:Specifically a Panther flavored barge, or anything? Because there are always decent barges cheap around here. Doesn't have to be Panther, that just seemed like a good combination of cheap to by, reliable, cheap to fix if something does blow up, and stereotypically American. That's not really how I'd describe a 25 year old 5-series, but the SLS looks like a perfect candidate once I get over my distaste for FWD, thanks!
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Mar 18, 2013 01:28
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:That was kinda cool, my drivers door has always took a little bit of shouldering to get it to open or close, very heavy action. I just put a block of wood and a floor jack under it, and after a shot or two I got the door swinging and shutting the way it was meant to be. Sounds like someone's been grabbing the top of the door to get out for most of the car's life.
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Mar 18, 2013 03:35
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So I managed to get my car over to an Autozone for some license plate screws and a diagnostic check. Before I headed over though, my Check Engine light turned off and stayed off. Kinda strange. Anyways, I got the clerk to come out and do a reading, and sure enough I got a Cylinder 8 Misfire code that set the flashing CEL off weeks ago. At least now I can narrow my search for the issues... problems standing in the way are, I have absolutely no tools and no place in which to work on the car, as well as no spare cash to pay for labor. What's the bare minimum tool-wise that I'd need to get to the bottom of the misfire?
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Mar 18, 2013 03:57
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Assume it's the COP and replace it with an aftermarket coil. It's a $20 gamble to see if it'll fix it. Though according to this thread, you wanna use OEM parts.
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Mar 18, 2013 04:00
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I don't know about on the Panther, but on the F-150 with the 4.6/5.4, the #8 plug was right under the cowl - and prone to getting a soaking if the gasket between the hood and cowl was compromised.
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Mar 18, 2013 04:04
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Yeah just replace the coil, and that should fix the problem. All you need is a 10mm socket IIRC.
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Mar 18, 2013 04:48
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My coils were bolted on with a single 7mm bolt each. A quarter drive and about 3" of extension cleared the fuel rail perfectly. Might as well pull the plug with the coil if you've got about 8" of extension and a 5/8" spark plug socket to check it. E: STR on my Vic all 8 plugs were accessible with almost zero effort. Pull the plastic cover and the intake boot, and that was it. INCHI DICKARI fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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Mar 18, 2013 05:05
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blugu64 posted:EDIT: Child seat anchor? You got it.
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Mar 18, 2013 15:56
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Panther-body cars are the safest cars to come out of North America. They are incredible- near comparable to a Volvo in every way. I don't think Ford will ever make a great RWD Panther fleet successor, and the new Taurus has some obscene $32k base price. The fact that the Alaska State Troopers refuse everything but Crown Vics to navigate some of the most treacherous terrain is pretty cool, too.
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Mar 19, 2013 01:27
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sports posted:Panther-body cars are the safest cars to come out of North America. They are incredible- near comparable to a Volvo in every way. There's no two ways about it -- newer-designed cars are simply safer. New Taurus: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1139&seriesid=435 http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1140&seriesId=435 Last gen Panther: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=181&seriesid=308 http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=708&seriesId=308
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Mar 19, 2013 01:35
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This just started parking on the street  
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Mar 19, 2013 03:05
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Yeah, I don't think you're going to have theft/burglary issues on your street anymore.
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Mar 19, 2013 03:12
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Dr. 14 INCH M.D., OBD-GYN
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Mar 19, 2013 03:13
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kastein posted:Yeah, I don't think you're going to have theft/burglary issues on your street anymore. I live in Disneyland for hobos and we have a lot of theft and burglary issues in the neighborhood. You've just given me an idea that's a lot more fun than a security system.
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Mar 19, 2013 03:42
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:This just started parking on the street It's the GTA effect. Soon your entire street will be nothing but Crown Vics 
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Mar 19, 2013 04:32
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kimbo305 posted:There's no two ways about it -- newer-designed cars are simply safer. I just want to elaborate on this because it's still not very clear from your links: Safety standards go up all the time. If you look at an older car's safety rating, it's generally set based on the contemporary standards; so, a car that got an A rating in 1990 is nowhere near as safe as a car that got a B rating in 2010. It's very difficult to find basic grading-type numbers that allow you to compare across different generations of vehicles. This should be obvious, if you think about it: in 1990 almost no cars had airbags beyond maybe a driver and passenger front-impact airbag, usually as options. Today, airbags are standard and most cars have side-impact airbags too. That's just an immediately-obvious example, but it goes on, including things like high-strength bars in the doors and pillars, increased standards for pedestrian-impact, the advent of backup warning sensors/cameras, etc. It's also the case that newer cars have better-performing suspensions and tires, which make avoiding an accident more likely, which improves safety in a way not measured by tests that focus on performance in an impact. Even the panthers re-designed after 2006, and the models sold in 2010 with standard side-impact airbags etc., still had the same old frame, which you can see in kimbo's fourth link was rated as "poor" by the standards of 2009-10. So this: sports posted:Panther-body cars are the safest cars to come out of North America. They are incredible- near comparable to a Volvo in every way. is just totally wrong. Maybe they were the safest when they were brand new (in 1979), but now even the ones made up through 2011 were already basically obsolete in terms of core safety technologies, and almost any car designed and built to conform to US standards in the last five or ten years is safer. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Mar 19, 2013 |
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Mar 19, 2013 21:20
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Yes, because a car that you can't see out of the back window with is really safe. Safety standards improve, sure, but the safety arms race has turned cars into swollen messes that require rear-view cameras to even take into account pedestrian accidents.
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Mar 19, 2013 21:37
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That white P71 came into my shop today for an alignment. It's a Colorado car, 1999. One spot light, cruise control, carpet, and cloth back seat. Nifty.
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Mar 19, 2013 21:39
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sports posted:Yes, because a car that you can't see out of the back window with is really safe. If you want to start a thread modeling how poorer rear view visibility has increased injury and mortality rate in newer cars, please do that.
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Mar 19, 2013 21:44
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sports posted:Yes, because a car that you can't see out of the back window with is really safe. I have never felt less safe in the driver's seat than I did in a new Camaro. I love giant greenhouses.
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Mar 19, 2013 21:46
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Splizwarf posted:I have never felt less safe in the driver's seat than I did in a new Camaro. I love giant greenhouses. Oh thank god, it's not just me then. My mom has one and every time I ride in that thing I feel so drat cramped and unable to see. It has the tiniest side windows I have ever seen.
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Mar 19, 2013 21:52
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sports posted:Yes, because a car that you can't see out of the back window with is really safe. Actually this is a good point, and I kind of wish car safety ratings included a factor based on nationwide statistical data about frequency and severity of accidents. Because there are a lot of car features that aren't measured by safety standards bodies; in particular, the ability of the car to facilitate the driver's avoidance of an accident (beyond braking performance, which is measured), which would include maneuverability, visibility, active and passive warning systems, lighting, and so on. Obviously this cannot work for a new model, since there'd be no data to base it on. And, it could be very difficult to control for driver demographics and regional differences (cars mostly owned by younger people might be in more accidents than those mostly owned by middle-aged people; cars used more in snowy/icy conditions might have more accidents than cars people don't drive in those conditions; cars affected by excessive rusting rates in road-salt areas might perform worse than cars mostly used in non-rusty areas whose components are not prone to rust; and so on). Panther cars were among the most popular fleet vehicles ever made, of course, including obviously among police cars. This could skew statistics wildly in their favor even if you exclude accidents that occur while a car is a cop car... because everyone drives more safely when a Panther car is in view? On the other hand, a ton of Panther-platform cars were used as taxis, and those see a lot more use on the road, but then again taxi drivers might be more experienced and therefore avoid accidents better, and also mostly drive within cities where accidents are at lower speeds and thus less severe... So in the end, I think all you can do is go with the safety test results and the rest is personal anecdotes and arguments without useful data to back them up.
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Splizwarf posted:I have never felt less safe in the driver's seat than I did in a new Camaro. I love giant greenhouses. H3 in Reno winter. I thought I was going to die/kill someone.
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Mar 19, 2013 22:00
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:I think the misfire is the stumbling you're talking about and its at high load (Freeway) that its becoming more pronounced. Check the plugs at least if you have a 7mm socket for the coils and a long extension+ 5/8" spark plug socket. If it's anything like my Lincoln, a flashing CEL is most definitely a misfire, and a bad one, like you are melting your cats from all the unburned fuel escaping. I swear every ford-flavored V8 I've ever touched has had COP issues. Sneaky ones too, not just an outright failure, just a marginal one that you have to pull them and test with a multimeter to chase down.
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Pretty sure I saw 14"s land boat cruising around Everett, Evergreen way last Monday. Where were you on the morning of monday the 18th?
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Mar 20, 2013 02:52
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Farking Bastage posted:If it's anything like my Lincoln, a flashing CEL is most definitely a misfire, and a bad one, like you are melting your cats from all the unburned fuel escaping. I swear every ford-flavored V8 I've ever touched has had COP issues. Sneaky ones too, not just an outright failure, just a marginal one that you have to pull them and test with a multimeter to chase down. Yeah I think I'm gonna change my plugs and while I'm at it test every coil and I'll post the results. People on CV.net claim it's how the mpg's slowly get worse over time without you really noticing, the coils just get weaker and less efficient and sometimes never actually die, just barely putting along enough not to throw a CEL. I hate gradual issues like that because it's impossible to tell you even have a problem, even more so because the oem COPs are loving expensive to just replace for the hell of it. The MSD COPs seem to be getting great reviews though, and are cheaper than oem and an aftermarket name I would trust with making coils anyway. Never heard anything bad about anything MSD makes.
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I'll be ohming out mine too, I just did an Olympia run and netted 20mpg round trip freeway. I mean I know its not a civic but I've read people getting mid 20s up to a high of 28 so figured it'd be something to look into. Also, what's the general consensus on fully synthetic oil? There's a few regulars at the shop who run full synth in their mustangs, and I've never had a car new enough to bother looking into it. E: also wasnt me in Everett, I get thursday fridays off. INCHI DICKARI fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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