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Kaliber posted:What do you think of females in submarines? Can they endure the physical hardship of a submarine? The only real physical hardship of being on a boat is the stores & TDU (weights used for trash disposal) loads. Grrr-Krishnakk posted:I know nothing about life on a sub so this is probably some basic/inane poo poo. Anyhoo: Food is okay but I always brought along a few cans of soup for when the menu looked like poo poo. Of course there are ways to get rid of smoke & steam how the hell do you think we can stay underwater for months at a time. I've been past 'test' depth, on accident. Nothing happens at those depths the boat is kept to the same psi as surfaced (for the most part). I only saw one guy start to go a bit crazy, he was told to suck it the gently caress up. Normal treatment is to tell them to suck it the gently caress up or knock them in the head till they do. The only other thing the boat could do is go back into port and gently caress up whatever mission you might be on. You can't 'see' anything outside of the boat unless you are surfaced or at periscope depth. Everything is sonar. There is no privacy. None. Even when you are in your rack with the curtain closed someone will reach in to wake your rear end up or accidently open it. *note this was my experience on a fast attack as a surf not a noble.
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^^ We were not allowed to have weights due to possible noise transients. Manmower posted:What are the exercise facilities like on a sub? You might get lucky and have a rowing machine and a treadmill, in the engine room. There really is not room for the gear. Temp & humidity is fully controlled. Only the engine room gets a bit hotter. There is cold air blasting you everywhere you go on a boat.
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Rowzdower posted:How hard is it to adjust to the 18 hour days? Does the crew run on an adjusted 18 hour "calendar days" system or does everyone just set their alarm 6 hours earlier each night? The messenger does wakeups before each watch, running around to each person who is oncoming watch and giving them 2 wakeups to make sure they get up. You don't really need an alarm clock. Adjusting to the 18hr thing is not really hard at all. Baloogan posted:I guess I should have a real question. I'm sometimes doing bathymetric surveys of ports and rivers and such and because its so drat boring I generally fanatasize about subs hearing my little active sonar pinging away and doing TMA on me. I use 400-675 kHz with a 50-100 millisecond (microsecond?) pulse length, pencil beam around 100 pings per minute. Something at that high of a freq does not travel very far.
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Cerekk posted:4 treadmills, 2 exercise bikes, 3 ellipticals, stairmaster, rowing machine, climbing machine, smith machine, 4 sets of free weights with benches. Ya well at least I didn't get extra zoomies from being around missile tubes while working out!
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Mar 11, 2013 00:54
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Mortabis posted:Does the crew know the mission of the sub? Like, are the orders posted or something, so that if the mission is something like "wait for this other country's sub to leave port and track it" or something else would the crew know about it, or just the people who need to know? Yes. When going on a deployment the crew gets a general brief on what we will be our overall mission. Details however only go to certain departments like radio, navigation, sonar, ect. Subs only surface during training, going into port, or due to a casualty.
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Mar 11, 2013 01:51
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Mortabis posted:Is there a brig or something on submarines for people who commit crimes of some kind, or are insubordinate or whatever? How is that handled? No. But if something really bad happened they would most likely convert one of the officers staterooms to serve as one. As far as 'being insubordinate' they would most likely be told to shut the gently caress up and do their god drat job, and get a captains mast.
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Mar 11, 2013 04:42
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Golli posted:One of my fellow JOs didn't get cleared for one mission on a deployment. On the one hand, he didn't have to do a lot of the mission-related work which happened off-watch and he got to be permanent EEOW. Why in the hell would he not be cleared for secret SPECIAL and still be allowed on the boat?
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Mar 11, 2013 21:24
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The Navy does not salute indoors. Inside of a sub or ship is indoors. Some guys you might be on a first name thing with but for the most part you just call them by their last name unless they are a chief or higher. Light does go down a bit so it would depend how deep you raised the scope at. There is a small arms locker but unless something has changed there isn't a lot of guns.
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Mar 12, 2013 09:51
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You don't stay at sea for 6 months at a time, so you could call home during a deployment when you pull into port. Also some wives actually fly out to meet the boat and keep their husband from loving other chicks. When I was in it was about 50/50 for first enlistment guys getting out. My friend and rackmate from boot who I went though boot/sub/a-school with did burn out about 1 year into his sea tour. He ~went sad~ and got an admin separation. If someone starts going nuts while at sea you tell them to suck it up or knock them upside the head till they fall in line. The only other option is to pull into port and get them off the boat which can be a very ~big deal~. Very few people get to actually see out the scope. But I'm sure it has happened.
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Mar 17, 2013 08:25
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genderstomper58 posted:this might be new fangled technology but the ood guy or w/e would always take pics and upload them to the share drive so you could check stuff out from the scope Yep. Best we had was a tiny 4" tv in control and could take b/w photos. Share drive. Kids these days.
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Baloogan posted:What is the general procedure when you guys come across a new sonar transient? Please don't answer if its OPSEC or whatever. Sup gained new contact designated sierra one on tracker comp alpha one initial classification butt farts. (or many variations of) Yes there is a sonar officer. It's a JO position that an ltjg tends to get after they are done with the engine room quals/watches they have to do. Sonar is both listened to and displayed as "lines on a screen". The sonar officer would be around 23-27 depending on how long they spent in schools. It's really just a stepping stone position for JOs. I never saw anything from sewers but I was out of Hawaii so I did hear underwater volcanoes. Active is only used for training and to make sure the gear works. This excludes the fathometer which of course is always used but it's a bit different. I was a sonar tech 94-98. We had the AN/BQQ-5E sonar suite with the experimental (at the time) tb-29 towed array.
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Mar 27, 2013 10:42
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Baloogan posted:Thanks so much for satisfying my curiosity. So the sonar division's leader is more of a admin type guy rather than an old sonar officer who was listening to whale porno back in the 1970s. Tom clancy lied to me Sonar is a team of 5-8 guys on watch, not one guy with a computer that spits out what all the contacts are (down to the hull number hah!).
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Mar 28, 2013 00:43
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Deck & Divers was under the WEPS on my boat.
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Mar 28, 2013 06:17
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Snowdens Secret posted:Until recently it was very rare to have enough water for everyone to shower every day. Showers are still brief affairs. The laundry services are questionable. You end up smelling quite a bit of butts but there are plenty of other unpleasant odors stirred in. Thats not exactly true. Even on 637 boats you could shower every day. Laundry is time slotted and if no one from that dept is using it you can ask if you can do yours. Mad Dragon posted:On time, some coner burned his speedo undies in the dryer. My COB burned his clothes in the laundry. He of course blamed someone else for not cleaning the filters when the procedure was to clean both BEFORE and after you are done.
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Mar 28, 2013 22:12
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holocaust bloopers posted:wait you can smoke on a sub Shaft alley was the place to go when you wanted to get a qual gaffed on my boat. We had a guy in my division that would have a nic patch and still smoke nearly a pack a day while at sea.
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Mar 29, 2013 03:38
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FrozenVent posted:Can civilians sperg in here too? Sperg all you want! My boat nearly got ran over by a supertanker while we were pulling into Yokosuka once. I was on the fathometer and saw/heard it all as it went down. Scary as poo poo. The only reason we didn't get rammed was our helm questioned one of the skippers orders when he gave a rudder call that was the wrong direction. He did it very politely tho, "Say again sir?".
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Mar 29, 2013 03:41
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We used our anchor when we did a dependents cruise to Maui. It did not break. 
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Mar 29, 2013 20:29
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bradass87 posted:When was the last time a U.S. submarine engaged and sank another submarine? Maybe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Scorpion_(SSN-589)
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Apr 1, 2013 02:05
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If they gently caress up they can be found.
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Apr 1, 2013 07:08
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IDR posted:Sweden have done it quite a few times, we can't track theirs though. The Stirling engines they have are loving boss as hell.
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Mortabis posted:But AIP subs do eventually have to snorkel, right? Don't they have to run ordinary diesels after a while? Only if they run out of liquid o2. edit : a boat like this with modern SS gear is the most scary thing ever.
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Mortabis posted:Is SS sonar gear? Sorry by SS I mean Sound Silencing. It covers a lot of things that I'd rather not get into on an internet forum. Beach Bum posted:
My boat (the 688) did an op against the entire Nimitz battlegroup who also had a 688 class escort in 96 or 97 I forget. We popped a flare on them while about 500 yards away. Carriers have no ASW other than the ships around them and aircraft. They had sent the battlegroup to the far north of the op "box" to try and fool us so they could sneak by alone in the south of the box. Oops. edit : also we detected them at a really loving insane distance also thanks to a sweet sweet convergence zone. ded fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Beach Bum posted:Was this before or after the S-3 got retired? I know airborne-ASW is pretty terrible but the threat of SONOBOUYS EVERYWHERE might have helped a little bit, having only helicopters afterward. I'm also sure that being able to get detection at extreme range with the CZ helped plot intercept too. We did not get any aircraft until after we took shots of them with the scope and shot flares up. The CZ helped for sure. They also tried to run only 2 screws to throw us off. The problem is military screws 'look & sound' a lot different on sonar. Also this was part of our TB-29 testing before our westpac. That also helped. Mr Crustacean posted:Did the joker of a battlegroup commander who planned that maneuver get his rear end reamed later on by higher up, cause that just sounds like the most ridiculous loving thing ever. Surely the purpose of the OP was to get some realistic training, not to gently caress about gaming it so that you 'win'. No idea. But we did rush up to them and "sunk" them all (the rest of the BG) at night. They had lights on and complained we didn't fight fair. ded fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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This is 16 year old poo poo and none of it touches anything classified.
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I had to learn 2 different versions of sign language on my boat as part of my dolphins quals.
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Golli posted:Rig for Ultra-quiet - all off watch personnel must remain in their racks. I had to do it when we did a few things. I got racked out to go fix poo poo that kept us needing UQ. Got me the only medal I really earned.
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The smell of Amine made me throw all of my uniforms away once I got out. I couldn't even keep my seabag that thing stank too.
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EvilElmo posted:Is there a ocean equivalent of turbulence? Only around 100 feet or higher. It depends on seastate but as already said it is mostly a near surface effect.
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Apr 24, 2013 10:32
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Mortabis posted:Can submarines capsize? If they gently caress up they can flip totally over. We did some high speed maneuvers during sea trials out of drydock that had me standing on the bulkheads. We did like 45 degree port & stbd rolls. Those were very hard on stowed gear. poo poo flew everywhere.
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Hauldren Collider posted:If it flips over, how do you correct it? I assume it doesn't result in the boat sinking. That is, sinking permanently. If a modern nuke sub flips over it is pretty much loving dead.
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:Why? Baloogan posted:Why? Snowdens Secret posted:Ballast tanks are open on the bottom. When you normally blow ballast, the water is pushed out the bottom, lighter air stays in the tanks and you rise. If you are inverted or beyond a certain roll angle, the air just squirts out and you die. Think of it like holding a bucket of air underwater and then tipping it over. In addition to the ballast tank issue many other things would get hosed up. Some of which I do not think are things that should be said here. One other thing would also be if the planesmen were not strapped in they would find it very difficult to operate the controls from... the deck (floor) which is now the overhead (ceiling).
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Cerekk posted:
If the ship went inverted certain things would become broke in ways that cannot be fixed outside of drydock. It's hard to describe without going into actual details. But also yes if the boat ever had cause to go inverted things would already be very hosed.
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:So how long do you have between going too fast and maneuvering too sharp and then loving up and going too far to recover from the dive? Is this like a split second thing that the control deck people are preventing at any given second, or would it be something that plays out slowly and requires waaaaaaay to much lunacy+idiocy to be allowed to actually happen? This depends on your speed & depth. If you are going flank speed and deep you can be hosed in 20-30 seconds. If you are going slow a slow event that plays out can still gently caress you however. For example ... I've posted this story before so here in a summarized version. We were doing deployment workup poo poo and farting around at PD. The OOD had ordered a backing bell and everyone in control forgot we were going backwards. We had a planes reversal (controls worked in the opposite direction) and we ended up doing a 56 degree down angle. I thought for sure we were headed right to the bottom but thankfully the Captain climbed into control from his stateroom (yes he had to CLIMB) and yelled at the CoW to blow the forward ballast tanks.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Then again, think how much cooler it is than being in the Air Force Yes, it sure is cool living in the barracks as an E-5 in the Navy when E-3s in the Air Force can get money to live off base.
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holocaust bloopers posted:I didn't even think that a jammed control surface could even happen to a sub. Couldn't you just kill the props to stop any motion if you were in a jammed dive? "Jam dive" ranks up there with "Torpedo in the water" as far as just how hosed you are in sub lingo. A jammed control surface is one the things you would do an emergency blow for. Also there are no "props" on a sub, it's called a SCREW. 
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holocaust bloopers posted:Sorry! I only speak airplane. I don't remember the specifics as I was never a control room guy, but it involved switching to backup controls, hitting a backing bell to stop forward movement, and a bunch of other crap. There are shore based trainers for nearly every drat thing on a sub. I knew how to operate broadband sonar before I ever stepped foot on the boat.
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Snowdens Secret posted:The older boats used off-hull trainers. Stuff like fire control (and probably the sonar stuff) were fairly accurate simulations, while visual navigation training was pretty hokey. I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure there's no full motion helmsman / planesman trainer. There was a control room trainer at BESS when I went through it. Planes, BCP, Dive was all there. In Pearl they had a complete trainer that had planes, bcp, dive, navigation , ect everything needed to run a full control room tracking party plus sonar.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Yeah, but I'm saying I bet it didn't rock back and forth and shake and poo poo like a Six Flags ride or an Air Force trainer Oh like that. No. But all of the ways to do emergency backup stuff was all there.
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Sacrilage posted:Funny thing is, yeah, I was a first flight guy. I never said GOOD computers...the fact that it has the computing power of a cellphone and takes up all of CSES, well, that's another story >< I loved the sonar computers for the Q-5E system. A pair of 7 foot tall 4 foot square water cooled 8086 RISK cpu towers.
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Sacrilage posted:Like any underway US Navy ship, no booze. Unless you're a Chief.
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