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FactsAreUseless posted:Junji Ito's the best. If you read Cat Diaries, he talks about his obsessive-compulsive disorder. You can really see it in his stories: they're all about obsessions and compulsions. Amigara Fault is probably his best, but Uzumaki visits a lot of the same themes and body horror, so anyone who liked Amigara should definitely check it out. Thanks for recommending Cat Diary. I hadn't read it, but it's fantastic. It's simultaneously unnerving and completely hilarious.  I really hope he doesn't actually view his wife like that in real life! Sid Vicious posted:I haven't read any of these, which collection is it from? I purchased Museum of Horror (Terror?) volumes 1-3, two of them were strictly Tomie stories, which I also quite enjoy, and the other was just short stories. Sadly none of them included Uzumaki or Enigmara Fault I'm pretty sure Amigara Fault is included in the Gyo releases, but I believe they are out of print and super expensive. You can still get Uzumaki, though. 3 volumes and absolutely horrific/fantastic. Definitely my favourite work of his. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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scarycave posted:I read them awhile ago online, I bumped into them when I was crawling around the internet, I think they were issues that were only released in Japan, and were translated into English by some die-hard Junji-Ito fans. If you look around, I'm sure you can find a fan-translation somewhere. Hopefully this doesn't violate any rules though. Oh okay thanks, I have Manga Storm on my iPod, maybe they have it on there. I also hope this isn't like admitting to  or anything like that, as far as I know its all stuff that hasn't been released here, all fan translations.
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scarycave posted:Welp, after reading some stuff on Beasts of Burden, I thought I would share my personal experience.
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:Just a heads up if you read more of it: one of the later stories is about missing puppies and if you're an animal person it will probably make you cry a lot. Too late. I saw a preview for that online too. I did feel a bit bad, but then that happened and it pretty much turned to shock at one point. I also saw the bit with the sheep which was pretty entertaining. It certainly looks like it knows how to build up tension and shock in just the right way.
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Sid Vicious posted:Do you know if the artist of this also drew the story from Completely Doomed about fur trappers? I can't remember the title of the story offhand, the art is just really similar, which is a very good thing. I have a weird interest in stories about fur trappers. Does anyone else know anything about this?
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:I have a weird interest in stories about fur trappers. Does anyone else know anything about this? I can't even find the title at the moment, I'll take a look and see if my copy made the move with me. I can't scan or anything, besides me being scared that it would be , I just don't have a scanner.Edit: Its called Pelts, it was written by F. Paul Wilson and illustrated by James A. Owen, I bought the TPB strictly because I love horror, and I hadn't seen many other collections at my local comic shop. I believe it is all adapted from short stories, I could be wrong though. Edit 2: Answered my own question, different illustrator. Sid Delicious fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Mar 19, 2013 |
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Sid Vicious posted:I haven't read any of these, which collection is it from? I purchased Museum of Horror (Terror?) volumes 1-3, two of them were strictly Tomie stories, which I also quite enjoy, and the other was just short stories. Sadly none of them included Uzumaki or Enigmara Fault Those stories were from two collections called "Voices in the Dark" and "New Voices in the Dark," if you're looking for the exact titles. They haven't been officially released in English yet, though I heard some rumors a while back that someone (probably Viz) picked up at least the first volume. One of those volumes also features "Anything But a Ghost", which is one of my favorite Ito short stories. "Mystery of Amigara Fault" was reprinted in the Gyo volumes, along with a short (bio?) comic about how Ito lost his poo poo as a kid. Literally. If there's a Borders or similar bookstore around you that's liquidating it's stock, you might find a copy there. I got mine about a year back when the local Borders closed. Also really jealous of your copy of Museum of Horror vol. 3.
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I feel like Revival belongs here but I'm probably too dumb about the genre to know why I'm wrong.
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E the Shaggy posted:Everyone needs to read Scott Snyder's "Severed". Amazing, scary as hell horror comic. I really want to second this. The first chapter/issue is kind of cliche and stupid but that's just to hook you in so you know that they aren't pulling any punches. From that point on it starts into a very slow burn of horror. Even the art feels so perfectly in place in the horror genre. It's not a perfect book but it gets so many things right. Too many things are listed as horror just because there's a monster in it. Take Ferals for example. It's a werewolf comic but there's nothing scary at all about it. It's a cheesy pulp action comic about gore and violence. They don't even try to make it scary, just bloody. Severed however really tries to push the feeling of horror in everything it does. Never once do you feel any of the characters are safe.
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captainoblivious posted:I feel like Revival belongs here but I'm probably too dumb about the genre to know why I'm wrong. I like the setting though. Mid-west horror always strikes a chord with me. Anyway, I discovered that I had bought the giant Dylan Dog collection that Dark Horse put out and never finished it. It's not bad! His sidekick is kind of distracting and one of the stories about him rescuing a kid who was being raised just for replacement organs for his brother went on for a little too long but it has lots of nice crisp art and for the most part it's a fun supernatural adventure book. 
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Sid Vicious posted:I haven't read any of these, which collection is it from? I purchased Museum of Horror (Terror?) volumes 1-3, two of them were strictly Tomie stories, which I also quite enjoy, and the other was just short stories. Sadly none of them included Uzumaki or Enigmara Fault Amigara Fault is at the end of volume two of Gyo, along with something else, to pad out the second volume.
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Did anyone else find Gyo to be a bit disappointing? To me it felt like he was trying to tell a bigger story and then ran out of time? The ending just feels rushed and I feel it doesn't stack up to his other longer stories. Of course I read it right after reading Uzumaki so it might just be that it pales in comparison in my eyes.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Did anyone else find Gyo to be a bit disappointing? To me it felt like he was trying to tell a bigger story and then ran out of time? The ending just feels rushed and I feel it doesn't stack up to his other longer stories. Of course I read it right after reading Uzumaki so it might just be that it pales in comparison in my eyes. As much as I love Ito, I don't find Gyo all that entertaining. It starts out great and has a lot of good body horror business in it, but it tapers out pretty quickly. When it gets into the weird circus stuff I just completely tune out. It's definitely nowhere near as good as Uzumaki. I watched the anime adaptation over the weekend and it was also pretty loving bad.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Did anyone else find Gyo to be a bit disappointing? To me it felt like he was trying to tell a bigger story and then ran out of time? The ending just feels rushed and I feel it doesn't stack up to his other longer stories. Of course I read it right after reading Uzumaki so it might just be that it pales in comparison in my eyes. If he ran out of time, getting lost on the way (seriously, what is with that carnival sequence? It can't be dismissed as a dream) didn't help him. Hellstar Remina also felt like it had the same drawbacks. What he does, he does very well, but Uzumaki built in the physics-shattering unreality and the sense the world was bending before it really got crazy.
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Man, I love the poo poo out of Gyo. The first half balances wacky with otherworldly really well and the second half goes full-bore into some of the most gross, primally disturbing and darkly funny body horror I've ever encountered. I might like it more than Uzumaki.
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Anybody have any good essays or discussions on Amigara Fault? Something that talks about why it's so unsettling and memorable? Also, I came across this blog, and found myself oddly enjoying it before I remembered the "This is my hole!!! It was made for me!" scene and got really worried about myself. Chinaman7000 fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Mar 19, 2013 |
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Chinaman7000 posted:Anybody have any good essays or discussions on Amigara Fault? Something that talks about why it's so unsettling and memorable? I don't have any essays, but some of the things I find scary about it is the little-to know explanation why this is happening. There's a mention of something from the past having occurred but why its happening now, to everyone apparently is never explained. Also it feels like its about peer-pressure and conformity - everyone's doing it! Drrrr Drrrrr. If that scene bothers you, there's a ton of edits out there that make it hilarious. Also, I feel that theres a bigger central theme to the story than it lets on. Everyone somehow is able to identify their own private holes, and the way that they obsess over it makes it feel like their the same. That they don't want to lose who they are, and this imprint is just that - their figure immortalized. In essence they're becoming one with their true selves, unable to resist temptations, not fearing what comes next, and at the same time - losing themselves completely, by the end - you can barely tell they were even human. scarycave fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Mar 19, 2013 |
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Back home i have a long box full of old Weird War Tales, awesome anti-war horror anthology. They remade it recently but the old stuff will always fascinate me. Make war no more
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scarycave posted:In essence they're becoming one with their true selves, unable to resist temptations, not fearing what comes next, and at the same time - losing themselves completely, by the end - you can barely tell they were even human. The best part is when you realize their coming back out into the world was as much an accident as the holes becoming exposed to the light again in the first place. If it hadn't been for the earthquake there would be no "other side" for them to come out of. Never mentioned in the whole thing, but I think realizing that hit me harder than the ending.
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scarycave posted:I don't have any essays, but some of the things I find scary about it is the little-to know explanation why this is happening. I completely agree. So many horror narratives are denatured by this bizarre need for satisfaction and resolution (how many horror movies have you seen where the sense of dread is killed in the final reel by a tacked-on "because... INDIAN BURIAL GROUND!" or "because... DEVIL WORSHIP!"?) when, transparently, the things that frighten us most are those which have no rational explanation. Most of Junji Ito's work is the epitome of the "uncaring universe" trope - terrible poo poo just happens without cause or solution, and often only the protagonists and the reader notice that anything is amiss. Although I love Gyo, I think it's one of his weaker stories, purely because of the lengthy explanations of the mechanics and history of the death robots. Whereas, say, The Town Without Streets makes an inexplicable but relatively tiny tweak to basic cultural norms - what we consider to be rational behaviour - and shows just how transient and fragile human society is, and how little it has to change to become horrifying and unrecognisable. Although it's about as far from Junji Ito's methodology as you can get, I'd nonetheless like to recommend Nakayama Masaaki's Fuan no Tane (Seeds of Anxiety). It's the manga equivalent of creepypasta: a three-volume collection of extremely short, simplistic, and formulaic stories that typically consists of 2-3 pages of setup, followed by... ...A SCARY THING   Seriously, it's about as subtle and nuanced as loving Insidious or something, but it's still fun and pretty drat creepy in places.
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I forgot all about Fuan no Tane! I usually read it and send it to my friends around Halloween. The stories range from kind of cute to generally unnerving. I think it really works that a lot of the stories feel like randomly compiled illustrated urban legends. Things like the Ear-Slashing Monk sound exactly like something my older brother would tell me to try to freak me out.
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Dr. Hurt posted:I think it really works that a lot of the stories feel like randomly compiled illustrated urban legends. I legitimately thought that some of them were! Especially the Ear-Slashing Monk... brrr.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Did anyone else find Gyo to be a bit disappointing? To me it felt like he was trying to tell a bigger story and then ran out of time? The ending just feels rushed and I feel it doesn't stack up to his other longer stories. Of course I read it right after reading Uzumaki so it might just be that it pales in comparison in my eyes. It does seem to just kind of peter out with the main character just standing there not knowing what to do. Anyone else notice that Japanese horror stories seem to end on a downer note more often than not? While Western horror kills a lot of characters someone usually wins in the end while a lot of Japanese horror that I've read/seen pretty much ends up with EVERYBODY DIES.
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Speaking of Gyo...has anyone ever seen the anime version? Was hoping for something a bit more...Junji.
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I'm sure everyone's seen The Bongcheon-Dong Ghost by now, and it's really just jump scares rather than proper horror, but I got a kick out of it.
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Any recs on the grandly terrifying cosmic-horror side of things?
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captainoblivious posted:I feel like Revival belongs here but I'm probably too dumb about the genre to know why I'm wrong. I really like Revival, but it's increasingly getting into psychological horror rather than monster-movie stuff, and it's got a heavy focus on interplay within a large cast of characters. I'm probably too jaded to really think of it as a scary book, but I'd recommend it for people with a lower fright threshold than mine.
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Wachter posted:Most of Junji Ito's work is the epitome of the "uncaring universe" trope - terrible poo poo just happens without cause or solution, and often only the protagonists and the reader notice that anything is amiss. Although I love Gyo, I think it's one of his weaker stories, purely because of the lengthy explanations of the mechanics and history of the death robots. Whereas, say, The Town Without Streets makes an inexplicable but relatively tiny tweak to basic cultural norms - what we consider to be rational behaviour - and shows just how transient and fragile human society is, and how little it has to change to become horrifying and unrecognisable. Seriously, Ito's stories are the closest approximations to actual nightmares I've ever seen in fiction. Abstract/impossible things just happen and people never question them like rational human beings would, because there is no escape. That's probably part of why I think Gyo fails in some key ways - it's much more conventionally structured and doesn't have that lucid dream-like quality most of his stories do. And that's, for me, the primary reason his stories stick with me so vividly, because in some weird way they trigger the same primal impulses in my mind that nightmares do. It's actually a pretty incredible feat. Note that I've been on an Ito binge for the past week or so, catching up with the stuff I haven't read, and he definitely also has some stinkers in between. The one with the two comedian ladies comes to mind; maybe that's scarier if you're into Japanese comedy, I don't know. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Any recs on the grandly terrifying cosmic-horror side of things?
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Hakkesshu posted:Seriously, Ito's stories are the closest approximations to actual nightmares I've ever seen in fiction. Abstract/impossible things just happen and people never question them like rational human beings would. That's probably part of why I think Gyo fails in some key ways - it's much more conventionally structured and doesn't have that lucid dream-like quality most of his stories do. And that's, for me, the primary reason his stories stick with me so vividly, because in some weird way they trigger the same primal impulses in my mind that nightmares do. It's actually a pretty incredible feat. Some of the fear is reduced by the fact that the main antagonists ghosts will tickle you to death if you don't laugh at their jokes. It's scary in a sense though that you have to find it funny or they'll kill you . Possible jab at main-stream fads?
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scarycave posted:Some of the fear is reduced by the fact that the main antagonists ghosts will tickle you to death if you don't laugh at their jokes. It's scary in a sense though that you have to find it funny or they'll kill you . It's absolutely a jab at fad comedy. Look up Sekai no Nabeatsu. He was a one hit wonder about 3 or 4 years back who's shtick consisted of counting, just counting, only he'd say every multiple of 3 and number that contained a "3" in a "wacky" way. Here's the best clip I could find. He's got other T.V. personalities doing the weird numbers for him, but you get the idea. He was huge for months and if someone told me his popularity was due to some sort of unholy ghost powers, I'd have believed it. Also echoing the recommendation for Fuan no Tane. I especially liked the one about the haunted children's wing. "Hey! Hey, I'm a baby! Hold me!"
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Darth Walrus posted:Any recs on the grandly terrifying cosmic-horror side of things? Try Richard Corben's adaptation of The House on the Borderland. 
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Has this been released stateside? Because it sounds like its just up my alley, as stupid as the name is creepypasta is one of my favorite forms of fiction now. The only reason I ever visit reddit is because /nosleep exists and is basically the ghost story thread from here condensed in a way where I can read the stories and not have to read people's comments.
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Chinaman7000 posted:Anybody have any good essays or discussions on Amigara Fault? Something that talks about why it's so unsettling and memorable? Watcher posted:Although it's about as far from Junji Ito's methodology as you can get, I'd nonetheless like to recommend Nakayama Masaaki's Fuan no Tane (Seeds of Anxiety). It's the manga equivalent of creepypasta: a three-volume collection of extremely short, simplistic, and formulaic stories that typically consists of 2-3 pages of setup, followed by... 
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Sid Vicious posted:Has this been released stateside? Because it sounds like its just up my alley, as stupid as the name is creepypasta is one of my favorite forms of fiction now. The only reason I ever visit reddit is because /nosleep exists and is basically the ghost story thread from here condensed in a way where I can read the stories and not have to read people's comments. I don't think it's ever been picked up for US release. It has all been fan translated and online but of course that's when you get into territory I suppose.That comedy-ghost story does actually make a lot more sense now when viewing it in the context of weird Japanese comedy. They honestly reminded me of an evil version of the two terrible comedians from Cromartie High School.
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I don't think is a problem, since most Japanese publishers don't give a poo poo about fan translations and have no intention of releasing niche horror stuff in English anyway. Also we've already been linking to some of Ito's stories online since the first page. Even Waterhaul did it. I assume it's perfectly okay?
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Darth Walrus posted:Any recs on the grandly terrifying cosmic-horror side of things? Not to get to spoiler-ie but I Don't think you would be disappointed with reading the Uzumaki everybody's talking about, or more literally you should check out his work Hellstar Remina:  Also Richard Corbin and a lot of the old guard "weird Comics" dudes are good for your dose of existential dread by way of cosmic insignificance. Speaking of that I have never really been a fan of modern "fun" horror stuff that mitigates the terror with so much character agency and fun violence. It always reads more like power fantasy or wish fulfillment to me than anything scary. Can anybody recommend me something non-Japanese and recent that gets horrific in a psychological/philosophical way, and not just on a "here are the tropes of horror + silly gore" level?
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muscles like this? posted:Try Richard Corben's adaptation of The House on the Borderland. Definitely seconding this. It was the second Corben thing I read after Hard Time (one of the more straight-up horror story Hellblazer arcs, also excellent) and right away I knew I had stumbled upon something special.
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For those wanting to read Hellblazer but never had the chance, its on sale right now on Comixology for a dollar a pop. I'm not sure entirely if the sale is just for today or for the entire weekend. For those interested, I suggest read the first year of Delano's run (or just 11, Newcastle a Taste of Things to Come) and then skip straight to Garth Ennis starting around issue 34 and ending at 133. Warren Ellis's run (134-143) and Mike Carey's run (175-215) are some of my favorites as well, but really most of the series is worth checking out.
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