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Frankly my dear, usura-Tonkachi* *Translator's Note: This is a play on that famous and iconic line. You all know the one *wink wink, nudge nudge* Here it is used as a phrase that could have a good meaning but also, paradoxically, a bad meaning. Other adjectives that can be (but might not be) applied to this phrase are: "sleepy", "rambunctious", and "orange-colored".
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tbp posted:Did the 9 tails die? No, he's basically in a coma. The beasts are immortal, unless someone with the power of the Sage/Kagura kills them in a specific way. Any other 'death' and they'll just come back to life after absorbing enough chakra from the environment. Sasuke still needed the beasts in order to cancel the Infinite Tsukiyomi, so he wasn't going to truly kill it until after waking everyone up.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:59
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I fixed the last panel: http://i.imgur.com/OHcn3LM.png (spoilers obviously)
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Oct 29, 2014 19:12
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Guy A. Person posted:Frankly my dear, usura-Tonkachi* To be fair it kinda makes sense why a translator would make a note there. Sasuke frequently used that specific word back in part 1, even occasionally as a friendly jibe at Naruto, but hasn't used it at all on part 2. Having him simply call Naruto a dumb rear end or some other close English translation wouldn't work that well, because the specific insult is a very uncommon word.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:15
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That is not a good reason at all. Even if a company like Viz somehow was told 15 years in advance that that phrase would be used in what is supposed to be an emotional climax, they still would've translated it instead of leaving it in. Explaining poo poo because you think your audience won't get it is something a translator (And by and large all writers) shouldn't do unless it's relatively meaningless poo poo like food trivia or something unimportant like that. You can't do that in a climax, not only does it distract from the material, doesn't flow in the language, and pop up out of nowhere, it's just plain loving stupid.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:29
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"Naruto is bad, all according to keikaku*" - Kishimoto
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Oct 29, 2014 19:33
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Beef Waifu posted:That is not a good reason at all. Even if a company like Viz somehow was told 15 years in advance that that phrase would be used in what is supposed to be an emotional climax, they still would've translated it instead of leaving it in. Explaining poo poo because you think your audience won't get it is something a translator (And by and large all writers) shouldn't do unless it's relatively meaningless poo poo like food trivia or something unimportant like that. You can't do that in a climax, not only does it distract from the material, doesn't flow in the language, and pop up out of nowhere, it's just plain loving stupid. Putting the actual word in was stupid I agree, but putting a * and a translator note isn't especially distracting and can add the appropriate context to the scene.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:34
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I would say leave it on a translator's note page altogether. JoJo Steel Ball Run releases did that so whatever isanely Japanese jokes and poo poo you didn't get weren't explained to you on the same page and the actual language and scene at hand being explained to you didn't suffer. Mind you, this entire chapter is loving bad even without that, it's just one of those things that's really laughable with how fan translations handle poo poo.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:36
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Caros posted:To be fair it kinda makes sense why a translator would make a note there. Sasuke frequently used that specific word back in part 1, even occasionally as a friendly jibe at Naruto, but hasn't used it at all on part 2. I mean, at the very least I remember him being called "dead last" in a few early translations, like BlitzBlast said. My complaints are: 1) You should translate it, then make a translator's note, including the original Japanese word there. 2) Barring that, make it clear what it actually means, even if there isn't clear cut translation (hell, especially if it isn't clear cut). "A word that is an insult but also endearing" isn't really cutting it, that's too vague. Even general insults like "jerk" or "stupid" refer to actual things, like a person's behavior or intelligence.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:42
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Reading the last page back to front, (like a western comic) makes the final page much better because it makes it seem like Sasuke dies. The dialogue also still flows to a degree.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:45
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Marge, I'm confused. Is this a happy ending or a sad ending? It's an ending, that's enough.
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Oct 29, 2014 20:49
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Guy A. Person posted:Wtf is usura-tonkachi? Oh, it's "Sasuke's iconic phrase", I see. I assume it was always translated into something in previous chapters which is why I have never seen that phrase ever, so why not translate it. Or at least explain what it would likely be translated to. Seriously "a phrase that is both endearing and malicious" basically says nothing. loving translators, my god. Thank you, Naruto, for attempting to revive the keikaku meme.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:55
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It's a bad ending that's for sure.
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Still waiting for ninja magic to come in and fix everything.
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So they sleep until morning and the 3 non treed ninja don't come after them? Also Naruto can just poof in new arms with his sage powers.
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I think the more pressing question is "How do you go to sleep while bleeding profusely from your arm and manage to wake up the next day?" That or how Naruto and Sasuke never blew off their arms at the end of Part I when they transformed into their super forms for the first time and threw their strongest techniques at each other. blastron posted:I fixed the last panel: http://i.imgur.com/OHcn3LM.png (spoilers obviously) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9WOdnR-Nfs Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 22:18
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Wouldn't it be safe to assume they passed out due to blood loss/exhaustion rather than fell asleep?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I think the more pressing question is "How do you go to sleep while bleeding profusely from your arm and manage to wake up the next day?" Because they are stronger and more powerful now, Also Naruto had the Kyuubi Shroud, and Sasuke had his bitchin* wings and Curse Seal protecting him. *Were not actually bitchin.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I think the more pressing question is "How do you go to sleep while bleeding profusely from your arm and manage to wake up the next day?" There is no power stronger than true love. That is the lesson. This is what the entire manga was building too
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Oct 29, 2014 23:04
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I wonder what the hell that Kaguya poo poo even had to do with any of this. What did it have to do at all with any of the rest of the manga. gently caress. I am angry. Angry about mangas!
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Bisse posted:I wonder what the hell that Kaguya poo poo even had to do with any of this. What did it have to do at all with any of the rest of the manga. gently caress. I am angry. Angry about mangas! The point of the Kaguya poo poo was to ruin the manga. To make it so bad and awful no editor could possibly still justify stretching Naruto out for money or whatever. Kishi longs for sweet release.
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Bisse posted:I wonder what the hell that Kaguya poo poo even had to do with any of this. What did it have to do at all with any of the rest of the manga. gently caress. I am angry. Angry about mangas! Kishimoto couldn't figure out how to kill Madara so he pulled a rabbit out of his rear end. Also maybe her descendent/husband/whoever is maybe the villain of the movie?
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I can't be arsed to find a source, but I heard that this ending schedule wasn't planned originally and was imposed by the publisher on a short notice. So if that's true Kaguya might have been introduced when Kishi still thought he had 10,000 chapters left before he explains what the gently caress Sasuke was thinking all this time.
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Flytrap posted:Kishimoto couldn't figure out how to kill Madara so he pulled a rabbit out of his rear end. Yeah, the villain's name is Toneri Otsutsuki or whatever their last name is.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:37
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Cant ninja bullshit heal basically anything? Like, come on. Tusande was COMPLETELY BISECTED and shes fine.
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Even if Naruto and Sasuke had gone on more than, what, two missions? and therefore had enough time together to at least try and justify this insane hosed-up and undeveloped excuse for a friendship that we're suppose to be moved by, that would still have been a terrible chapter.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:15
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These injuries literally mean nothing since the new movie loving shows Naruto with a hand.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:16
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Tsunade recovered because she is The Best Medical Ninja Ever, plus her self-healing jutsu, and the Overslug helping her out. Anyone else would have died on the spot to that, except maybe Orochimaru.
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KoB posted:Cant ninja bullshit heal basically anything? Like, come on. Tusande was COMPLETELY BISECTED and shes fine. Tsunade's alive? I remember her being crushed by a tree and dying. Edit: Holy poo poo that was two years ago. I thought people were kidding about the length of this arc. 
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Oct 30, 2014 01:18
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Arms aren't a big deal. Naruto, fox chakra arm. Sasuke, Susanoo arm.
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Beef Waifu posted:These injuries literally mean nothing since the new movie loving shows Naruto with a hand. Maybe Mecha-Naruto is more canon than we thought and it's a robotic hand.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:23
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Tsunade should've died right there.
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So, apparently Orochimaru made Mecha-Naruto. What's up with filler making Orochimaru's experiments weirder than they already are?
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Oct 30, 2014 01:25
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Naruto filler has always sucked, but it has used Kishimoto's characters better than he ever has.
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Naruto Wiki posted:In an underground lair, Orochimaru and Kabuto use the power of an ongoing thunderstorm to complete a top-secret project meant to capture the Nine-Tails. Kabuto warns Orochimaru that the creation is quickly going out of control, but Orochimaru ignores him resulting in the mechanised creation to go berserk and destroy the laboratory and escape. I want to believe this isn't a thing.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I want to believe this isn't a thing. it actually owned, mecha-naruto defeats neji's spinning technique by running in a circle at 300 km/h Edit: 
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Oct 30, 2014 02:02
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...This is the dumbest thing. But somehow, it's also the best thing.
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KoB posted:Cant ninja bullshit heal basically anything? Like, come on. Tusande was COMPLETELY BISECTED and shes fine. Now I want to see Tsunade high-fiving Hiyori from Bleach. Cut-in-half, totally-fine-now buddies!
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A summary of the second half of this chapter: Naruto and Sasuke wake up next to each other and argue over which one cares about the other more. A final pan out reveals their intermingling bodily fluids I would say this is as close to canonizing half of Fanfiction.net as we're going to get, but we still have two chapters left.
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