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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Comic posted:

I have to agree that Lucy isn't really in control here. Likely future Sting isn't lying but he's also misinformed, Lucy likely did close the gate in his future but Future Lucy didn't remember it because she blacked out.

Now, why it is happening and for what purpose is yet to be seen. I also am not entirely sure that the gate itself is really what people think it is either.

Future Rogue, Future Sting got the hell killed out of him by Rogue.

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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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The recent Anime Arc was canon and actually referenced in the manga. (As the Zentopia incident). Timeline wise it works and nothing is contradicted. Cobra even has the same look in it as he was one of the villains.

It should be noted that Cobra had a pet Snake named Cubellios. Kinana a member of fairy tail that is normally seen in the back ground who joined after the Nirvana arc is Cubellios's human form as she was turned into a Snake years before fairy tail started.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Kuroyama posted:

At this point, I'm just gonna post his Fairy Tail Wikia article here, instead of this bit-by-bit infodump.

Fun fact: Apparently Cobra is just an alias. His real name is Erik

It was actually stated back in the nirvana arc that all of them went by code names.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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She was doing it in a different way however. I doubt she can just reverse things.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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bondster posted:

I forget her name, but she was someone that was introduced into the anime and written into the manga as canon. It's the human form of the snake that Cobra was partnering with in the Oracion Seis arc.

Wrong. She was in the manga before she was in the Anime.



This is from back at the Edolas arc. She pretty much only shows up in group shots of the guild. The anime just dicided to make her a plot point because it's a rather interesting plot point.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Some Information I just found out in a in a Q&A some info about Yukino was interesting. A cult of Zeref worshipers killed her parents and kidnapped her older sister Sorano bringing her to the Tower of Heaven Who do we know that looks a lot like Yukino and was a slave in the Tower of Heaven.

Edit:Yeah I am just slow I guess.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 7, 2013

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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attackbunny posted:

That's not new information. It was in chapter 303. Everyone immediately said, Oh, it's Angel. In fact, so many people immediately said Oh, it's Angel, that I half suspect her sister will turn out to be Millianna.

You can hardly be blamed for forgetting it, though, considering it hasn't been remotely relevant. Not even when Angel's old teammate showed up. I'd guess it'll be a plot point in the Tartaros arc and Yukino can give Angel a get-out-of-evil-free card.

Well Considering that Cobra just said he was going to free the six she will be back fairly soon I guess.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Zogundar posted:

Is that really what he meant though? Even ignoring the anime arc (Which I'm not sure you should since it's supposedly canon) there's only four of the original members worth freeing including himself, since I'm relatively sure Brain/Zero died, and Richard/Hoteye joined Team Friendship.

I doubt Brain is dead. But I also doubt Cobra would want to work with him again after he stabbed him in the back. Still if Klodoa and Erigor are around he could get them as they were members back in the anime arc. If Cobra is willing to work with Brain again then kick Klodoa and add Erigor.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Silver2195 posted:

I think Brain is alive, but Racer is dead. And Angel is useless now because Lucy took her keys. So only three members worth freeing, including himself.
Racer is alive in the Anime arc having sacrificed his metaphorical heart to perfect his magic. (This pretty much resulted in him losing all of his character traits and becoming more or less an insane beast.) He gets snapped out of it by Mira and is arrested at the end of the arc.

Angel obtained a new magic dubbed Angel magic that allows her to summon Angels using Magic coins. The side effect being that each coin represents some of her life span. She delusionaly believed that once she expends all of her life and the Angels consume her soul that she will become an Angel herself. Gray saved her after she tried to kill them both and got her cast lifespan back and she was sent back to prison.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jul 8, 2013

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Bisse posted:

So this is basically child porn at this stage right? Crotch/cleavage shots of what is functionally underage kids is very disturbing. I don't even read this manga, I just check in sometimes when I want to see big attacks hitting things. But lately it's been getting more fanservice-y which is sad but OK, this is really just creepy at this point though and I think i'm done with this manga.

Most of the characters are not actually under age.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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He's a member of Tartarus which is why is considered evil I guess.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Silver2195 posted:

I'm leaning towards E) It does make you more effective against demons, but that doesn't mean every Demon Slayer likes killing demons; Natsu doesn't go around killing dragons.

Like Natsu he may have learned it from Demons.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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So it looks like Cobra is going to be Freed. Along with the rest of the Six. Given that Angel is totally Yukino's sister I am guessing Yukino will get involved.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Lieutenant Hoffman posted:

Well I suppose that is the best you can hope for anime filler. :(

To be accurate it was just as good for the most part as a normal Fairy Tail Arc. It was called the Key to the Starry Skies arc and it's canon to the manga. As Yukino stated that it happened. The plot was more or less the Seis were manipulating one of the main religious orders of Fiore called Zentopia. In order to aquire a powerful magic called Real Nightmare that would allow them to destroy the world.

The Seis changed membership a bit as Brain/Zero was not around for some reason though he was stated to still be alive. All the members were borderline suicidal in the arc each have sacrificed something to obtain greater power (Midnight excluded).

Midnight now calling himself Brain II took leadership having mastered Darkness Magic to strengthen himself.

Cobra gave up one his eyes to strengthen his Sound Magic to the point were he could complacently control sound around him. This also let him phase out the reason he lost last time. (He effortlessly beat Erza once and came close to beating her a 2nd time but lost once due to his sound magic. He heard the voice of his Snake friend as he had been searching for her and this distracted him long enough for Erza to knock him off the platform they were fighting on.)

Angel obtained a new Magic called Angel magic that allowed her to summon Angel like creatures. What she sacrificed for this magic was her life span. Each time she summoned them she would use coins represented some of her life span. Once she ran out the Angels would consume her soul while she delusionaly believed that they would turn her into an Angel upon death.

Racer perfected his magic. It did what it used to do slowing everything down while granting him super speed at the same time. He was pretty much Teleporting with his magic. In exchange for this he gave up his heart, losing his personality making him little more then a sadistic and cruel animal that could speak. (Though it tended to be little more then evil laughter and rage.)

Erigor became a full member known by the code name of Grim Reaper. He turned his wind magic into very powerful Storm Magic allowing to control the weather. In exchange he gave up his memories. This turned him more or less into a much more powerful shell of his former self.

Klodoa the Staff also became a full member.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Oct 19, 2013

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Wow. Of all of those people, I only remember anything about Cobra, Angel, and Racer. I guess half of the villain group is actually good for Fairy Tail, though. Hell, I think I remember more about them than anyone in Hades' group or anyone they fought in Edolas, barring Pantherlily and Knighwalker. And, of course, Dragon Tank.

Erigor was the villain from the Lullaby Arc aka the first one right after the introduction. To jog your memory on him.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Zogundar posted:

I hope whoever came up with the Silver=Gray's Dad theory is happy, because now if that doesn't happen I'll be disappointed. :colbert:

Also wait, if they're demons, and Silver is a Demon Slayer, uh.. hold up, I thought Slayer magic was used by humans to mimic their respective origin. Why would a guy who's already a demon need Demon Slayer magic? Do Dragons use Dragon Slayer magic?

I wonder who Oracion Seis consists of these days after the anime filler arc. Is it the original six he's asking for the release of? I'd think Richard/Hoteye wouldn't want to hang out with evil people anymore. The new version? But then that wouldn't work because-


anime arc spoiler:
Michelle or whatever her real fake name was turned into a doll and is not in jail. Something probably happened to at least one of the other guys too. I think the staff guy who was supposed to be smashed/dead got smashed again?

Imitatia was always a doll. Klodoa actually came back in another Ova and got smashed again there he apparently has the power to come back from the dead. Anyway I am guessing the Six Cobra wants would be Brain, Midnight, Cobra, Angel, Racer and Erigor.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Zogundar posted:

I know, I went back and changed that description to be more ambiguous just in case. Even though I was using spoiler tags. I guess because this is a manga thread so just-in-case someone assumed it was manga spoilers without paying attention to the label in the event that they hadn't seen it and might have wanted to, it wouldn't be COMPLETELY spoiled. I'm weird that way.
Incidentally, I think you spoiled the one OVA I haven't seen yet. :gonk:


It's the Rave x Fairy Tail ova just to tell you.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Plutonis posted:

Eh, I just thought: "That dude's a ripoff of FMA's Kimblee." Then again that would make Natsu... Roy?

If he's a rip off it's of Yoshikage Kira.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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And the OS is free. Keeping some of their old looks from the Anime arc.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Well we now know for sure that Angel is indeed Yukino's sister.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Yasser Arafatwa posted:

Well given the naming convention and appearance, I'm thinking he's Grey's dad.

Problem is they died and Silver is a Demon.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Also Zero is coming back.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Zogundar posted:

It's not so wild given that we've already seen multiple instances of it. The "filthy/disgusting name" line makes more sense in the context of "Don't remind me of the old me" more than "I have a strong dislike of my son." But then the former is self-explanatory and straightforward whereas the latter requires additional exposition.

(I hope that's not the case though.)

If he smells the same as Grey, I think that puts down the Ultear's father theory though.


Plus he noted that he knew Natsu.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Franmalth is the strongest villain yet it appears.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Thoren posted:

Where's that one chick with the Ultra Fairy Magic and poo poo.

Cana? Mavis? Those are the only two with Fairy magic and Mavis is a ghost that only Fairy tail's members can see while Cana is fighting in the battle after she saved fairy tail from Elfman.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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I know but they are not chicks which is why I did not mention them.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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New chapter and Lucy permanently loses Aquarius in order to summon the Spirit King to save the day. Also Jackel blew up Lamy's head. It was quite a impressive chapter.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Destroying the fortress may have freed all the captured Fairy Tail members. Also E.N.D is the book Marde is carrying.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Suspicious Lump posted:

Haha I love rabbit girl. "Let's blow up her gigantic boobs, KA- BOOM"

Sadly this was fallowed up by Lamy's head exploding.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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The Puppy Bowl posted:

Just finished watching the anime episodes on Netflix and I really enjoyed it. Great pacing for anything based of a manga. It reminded me of One Piece but a lot faster and bit less beautiful absurdity. That said the owl-man with a jet pack was pretty great.


My only question is where is this going? Is there any end game in sight or is this story just trying to keep going until it gets cancelled? I like the show but no matter how good an anime is I'll probably tune out after 100 episodes of dragging rear end with out any progress.

The main plot becomes fairly clear once you learn more about Zeref.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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New Chapter and the reveal about Silver.

I did not see it coming.

I had guessed that Silver was a Demon that was wearing Gray's father's corpse as a suit. But that the Demon wearing him being Deliora I did expect.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Before he revealed that he was a crazy rocker he acted like a stoic butler to Jellal until he was told to kill them.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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khy posted:

I'm watching the anime now and there's no filler I've seen. She just... appears in episode 96 (In the bit where they're celebrating after Magnolia is returned and everyone comes back from Edolas) with a bunch of other members of fairy tail who were always there but we never knew about them or had names for them. That's why I was confused. She just... appeared and everyone knew her.

EDIT : Apparently her becoming human is at least MENTIONED in the Manga, but it's never even hinted at in the Anime. She's just suddenly there.

Yeah she is given a profile in the manga stating that Makarov found her and turned her back from a snake into a human. He then gave her a job as a waitress in fairy tail. In the anime her back story is first mentioned after the time skip. Though the anime only arc gives a bit of focus to her and Cobra.

Fun fact in the Anime only arc Cobra lost to Erza purely because of his enhanced hearing again. He had improved his magic so that screaming in his ear would not disable him like it did in the past. But his super hearing still caused his defeat he heard Kinana and became distracted by her voice allowing Erza to knock him off the platform they were fighting on while his guard was down.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Aug 16, 2014

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Thoren posted:

Not a single good guy from Fairy Tail has died.

Even the old guild master of Sabertooth that Sting punched a hole through survived, surprisingly.

Simon died. Also Jackel murdered everyone on the magic council.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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DeadBonesBrook posted:

Hiro Mashima has released a new one shot for a non FT story called Starbiter Satsuki - http://readms.com/r/one_shot/Starbiter%20Satsuki/2542/1

I enjoyed it, before the inevitable fall into creepy land. That being said I would probably read this as a full series. It amazes me how much work Mashima can do when guys like Oda are practically killing themselves just doing one comic.

Hey he broke his own theme naming He has had 3 series.(One a one shot) each with a protagonist named after a Season. He still needs a protagonist named Fuyu.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Which one shot had Aki in it, out of curiosity?

Monster Soul.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Silver2195 posted:

What about him wanting to kill all the other humans because he considers them evil, though? Which is especially silly because it's not like the demons are any better.

Edit: Or did he only want to kill all humans in psycho mode? I thought that was actually his goal when he was "good", while the "evil" Zeref wanted to do basically the same thing with even less of a reason, but I don't really remember.

He explained it well. When he cares about life he can't control his magic and it kills everything around him at random. He still wants to die to prevent him from killing those around him and because he still dislikes being Immortal. When Zeref does not care about life he can control his magic. After that he left his exile and decided to kill all humans. The Demons were created by him to kill and slaughter back during his I don't care about life phase. He made them like that. However while he wants humanity to die, he still wants to die as well and as explained by Mard Geer this chapter all Demons want to return to him and kill him even if they don't know it.

Anyway from the interaction with Natsu Zeref and Igneel have had. I am going to take a guess that Natsu is END.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Simoom posted:

Is this gonna be like the Hades fight where Laxus teaming up with Natsu meant giving Natsu all his powers :(

That did not even let him beat Hades and that worked because they were both Dragon Slayers. This looks like it's going to be like the Laxus fight with Grey and Natsu instead of Natsu and Gajeel.

Anyway is it just me or does Marde in his true form look exactly like a humanoid Acnologia.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Mashima gave us stats for the Members of Tartarus.







攻撃: Attack
防御: Defense
速さ: Speed
知性: Intelligence
呪力: Curse power

I don't know what the rest of the stuff means other then HP probably being their stamina.

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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

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Yasser Arafatwa posted:

So basically Grey's dad was one of the three people in their guild actually worth a drat haha.

Well Keyes has really high Curse power and could shut down Silver whenever he wanted. The rest were still fairly impressive. I also doubt it takes things into account like Franmalths Souls.

Plus Torafusa has pretty impressive stats and would have killed all the fairy tail members he was fighting had Levy not shown up and given Gajeel air.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Nov 17, 2014

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