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I think the only way the Germans could work out a peace with Britain and the US after defeating the USSR would be some alternate history where the Americans focused on Japan over Germany. The only scenario I can come up with would be terrorism by Japanese nationals coupled with one of them assassinating Roosevelt maybe? It would take a huge helping of revenge-driven anger to get the US to have chosen a different strategic focus.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Other than Oskar Schlinder, who else is remembered for saving people from the war machine, to the extent he did, or close to? Although it is unclear how many people he saved (probably over 6,000) Chiune Sugihara tried to get Jews out of the way of the Nazi war machine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiune_Sugihara He was the Japanese vice-consul in Lithuania. When he realized what was going on he started giving visas to Jews to get them out of the way of the advancing Germans. He defied orders and allowed them to transit through Japan. At one point he was barely sleeping trying to get more people a way out of the country. When he was forced to leave there are stories that he threw blank visas with his signature out the window of the train he took, hoping they could be used to escape. Ended his diplomatic career. Xenocides fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Apr 7, 2013 |
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Apr 7, 2013 08:45
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What is Dopey doing with his hand?
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Apr 16, 2013 19:34
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Original_Z posted:How did the Nazi stormtrooper army manage to grow so fast during such early stages? They were independent from the normal army, yeah? I heard that they had something like millions of members before they were eventually consolidated into the main army. Seems kind of crazy that they could essentially build up their own forces and that they could recruit so many people even before having total control of the nation, you'd think that building up a separate army loyal to a certain political party would be grounds for treason? If you are talking about the SA then it is important to note that other parties also had what amounted to private armies/security forces/thugs.
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Apr 25, 2013 23:01
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Devour posted:Because Hitler really would've won those two fronts if the U.S. didn't get involved in both theatres of WW2 after Japan attacked pearl harbor. At the time Hitler launched Barbarossa, Britain was literally a sitting duck that could barely do anything. Yes, the Germans had the problems with the winters on the eastern front, but they still would've crushed the Soviet Union if the U.S. wasn't invading from the west & the south. This is based on a lot of assumptions. Britain was not a sitting duck. They were stalemated. The British did not have the manpower to launch an invasion of Europe. The Germans did not have the sealift, the navy, or the air superiority needed to invade Britain. The uboat campaign was largely a failure and was not going to starve Britain either literally with actual food or metaphorically by cutting off the resources Britain needed. If the U.S. had stuck with isolationism and not gotten involved would the Soviets have been beaten? Maybe. While lendlease and the allied bombing campaign were a big deal I am not sure it tipped the scales. I suspect that while it might have taken longer the Soviets would still have won and the Iron Curtain might have reached to the British Channel in the NW and to Spain's border in the SW. Of course this is all speculation. It is easy to talk about inevitabilities when you can never be crudely proven wrong. At least until we invetn time travel.
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May 4, 2013 10:13
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Paxicon posted:How did Hitler and Mussolinis relationship develop during the 30s-40s - I remember reading that Mussolini was very much anti--germany before the formation of the axis, what changed? And how did the german military heads react to the Italians basically failing at everything they did, anywhere, ever? Hitler had something ofma soft spot for Mussolini. When Germany annexed Austria Hitler was very nervous that Mussolini wiuld object (and Mussolinimmight have been able to do something about it). When Mussolini stood down and let Hitler have it Hitler sent multiple messages thanking the Duce and praising him and promising he would never forget this favor. Hitler seems to have thought he was some kind of kindred soul. Mussolini tried to jump on the bandwagon when the war was going well for the Axis but failed spectacularly. German military leaders held the Italians in contempt. Hitler seems to have stayed fond of Mussolini anyways. When Italy capitulated Hitler took steps to have Mussolini liberated and put in charge of what was left of Axis-controlled Italy. Documents indicate that Hitler did not understand him from then on. Mussolini was broken and Hitler was expecting him to do what Hitler would have done: Purge traitors and consolidate power again at all costs while screaming defiance at the world to the end.
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May 7, 2013 01:05
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PittTheElder posted:Pretty much. You should probably also keep Hindenburg on that list. I have a hard time blaming Hindenburg. The man was not entirely lucid (senility) and wanted to retire but was fielded primarily because his opponents thought he was the only one capable of defeating Hitler in an election. He personally despised Hitler. I wish we had his will but his son destroyed it. There is a story it instructed Hitler to restore the monarchy but it has never been substantiated. He can be accused of giving Hitler the Chancellorship but he did not have much choice at that point. Legally it should have been safe as the Enabling Act did not allow the Chancellor to interfere with the office or duties of the President. Hitler got around this by combining the two offices and putting the change to the popular vote which passed overwhelmingly. The move was not really legal though no one could realistically challenge it at that point. If Hitler had just run for President the result would have almost certainly been the same in any case.
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Jun 20, 2013 22:12
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EvanSchenck posted:However, the best positions tended to be reserved for people who had joined before the party began its cycle of explosive growth in 1930, the so-called "alte Kämpfer" who'd been with Hitler when it was actually difficult to do so. So hipster Nazis who joined the Party before it was cool?
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Jun 27, 2013 22:18
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I loved that design. Hitler initially demanded that they have bigger guns then any possible adversary. Then someone pointed out how massive the ship would have to be and how it would be unable to dock in any port. It is interesting to wonder what additional craziness would have been built if the British and French had let Germany have Poland and Germany could have finished their rearmament.
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Sep 20, 2013 17:01
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Mycroft Holmes posted:None, as the Nazis rearmament program was destroying their economy. They were only kept afloat by seizing other countries currency reserves. Don't be silly. I've played Hearts of Iron. Hitler just had to bump up the Consumer Goods slider to stay solvent.
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Sep 21, 2013 16:24
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Mycroft Holmes posted:Shouldn't you be sinking the Janpanese Navy? I haven't been able to reconstruct the records for that game. I was working on a way to do it but it looks like it would require me to go through every update to pull it together. I probably won't be able to keep going without sinking way too much time into it. 
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Sep 21, 2013 21:12
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Groke posted:Yah, it's not as if being an evil fucker necessarily makes you immune to stress and his job must certainly have been one of the more stressful ones around. He led an almost charmed life. Except for the failed beer hall putsch his early rise to power seems to have gone so amazingly well. Every daring move he made through either skill or dumb luck came up as a win. Then when he started playing politics he always seemed to get what he wanted. Occupy the Rhineland: The French could have moved in and he would have been removed from power within a month. Nothing happened. Seize Austria: The Italians, British, and French let him have it. Seize Czechoslovakia: The British and French sell out their ally and give Germany continental superiority. Seize Poland: The west intervenes but can do nothing to save Poland. Invasion of France: Through a number of lucky factors it is a relatively easy campaign. Then after the invasion of the Soviet Union things began to fall apart and you watch Hitler planning his grand gestures of defiance and seeming to be baffled that they no longer work. A tragic figure, though obviously not a sympathetic one.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Ask me/us About Nazi Germany: The Adolf Hitler Rehabilitation Station "Hitler was a great dancer. Not like Churchill."
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