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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
Did the Western Allies ever attempt to demand political concessions from the Soviet Union in exchange for lend-lease aid, like restoration of the pre-war borders of Poland and Finland and the independence of the Baltic states, and if not - why? In retrospect it seems hypocritical to declare war on Germany when they invade Poland, yet neglect to do so when the Soviet Union does the same from the other direction, plus the threat of cutting off lend-lease should have given them some leverage over Stalin's regime.

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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
About Austria specifically: how popular or resented was the Anschluss at the time it occurred? Were Austrian soldiers who had served in the Bundesheer before the annexation ever considered less reliable than their Reich counterparts or Austrians recruited after 1938? After the war, was there a consensus in favour of pretending that the country had been a mere victim of National Socialist aggression instead of (arguably) being a partner, what with Hitler and several prominent Nazis beings Austrians and so on? Was there any significant support in favour of becoming part of the new Federal Republic?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Obdicut posted:

Rommel's drive through North Africa would have, if successful, conquered Palestine, and there is no reason to believe that he would have stood in the way of the persecution and murder of Jews that would have followed.

Don't know about Rommel, but that reminds me of something I read in Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands; namely, that the NS regime considered several other solutions involving deportations to Madagascar or reservations in occupied territory, but found them unworkable and decided to start killing them in 1942. What I'm curious about is this: is it likely that they would have begun to murder the local jews if they seized control of Palestine, or would they perhaps have attempted to deport the European jews to the area, as a reservation/penal colony so to speak?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Cowslips Warren posted:

So no one appears from nowhere; what happened to Hitler's family during his rise to power, during the war, and after it? His mother, his father, his siblings and relatives, etc?

His parents were dead before WWI, and his only sibling who reached adulthood was sister Paula, who never actively participated in politics and lived a quiet life until her death in 1960:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klara_P%C3%B6lzl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Hitler

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

MrYenko posted:

Is that a Boy of Silence at the bottom?

:tinfoil:
It's supposed to be a naive person who listens to Allied propaganda with his big ears and believes every word of it:


Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
Some super-battleships were considered:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-class_battleship_proposals

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Andy Cancer posted:

This makes sense. Thanks.

Slightly different question: I just watched Inglorious Basterds again and it got me wondering about Nazi cinema. Are any of their films worth watching? Are they available anywhere online?

Depends on what you consider Nazi cinema; do you mean any film produced during the NSDAP regime, or just propagandaistic ones?

The 1944 drama Ofpergang is quite highly regarded by some. The propagandistic element consist of a relatively subduded extolling of the nobility of sacrifice. Here is detailed article on the film, and it can found herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1zIds7deY (english subtitles).

There is also the 1943 version of Münchhausen:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ximQyzWH_H8, also with english subs. TCM article and online review.

Otherwise there is wikipedia. Much is available on Youtube if you search for it.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Have you read the play I am my Own Wife? It's about a transsexual who surived the Third Reich and the East German Stasi, possibly by narcing on her peers.

There is also a docu-drama about the same person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_My_Own_Woman

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Ensign Expendable posted:

A few SS divisions were more or less on par with Heer, the rest varied from meh to hilariously awful.

That statement makes little sense unless all the Heer formations were of uniform quality, which I doubt they were. Which SS units were on par with which Heer counterparts?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Kuiperdolin posted:

Another thing was that French were unique in collaborating as a government and not as individuals. We heard nothing of Quisling, Hungary, Finland and such.

That's not the best comparison. Quisling was not part of the legitimate government before the war, he was merely the head of the German-appointed puppet government from early 1942. The elected government went into exile in Britain and never collaborated with the occupiers. As for Hungary and Finland, unlike France they hadn't been invaded and militarily defeated by Germany, so they did not "collaborate" as such. Instead they acted as Germany's allies until their defeat by the Soviet Union.

Kopijeger fucked around with this message at 12:34 on May 18, 2014

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Rookersh posted:

And yeah, as I said, I'm no nationalist. I can 100% recognize the Poles were going to get beaten, were raging antisemites, and had their own share of problems. I wasn't posting from a position of personal belief, rather what Poland as a whole thinks about the war/it's contribution to the war, as it's not really something you see in history books in the USA. It's always amused me the lengths Polish schools go to teach kids about how we did everything we could to save the Jews, then you get to college and they just admit most of the camp raids were attempts to save Slavs, and everyone was super anti-semantic.

Something I am curious about is how contemporary Polish society views the Polish Forces in the USSR. Are they considered traitors in the same vein as the Waffen-SS volunteers from occupied territories, unfortunate people who were forced by circumstances to fight for Stalin, or something else?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

meatbag posted:

Quisling was Minister of Defence between 1931 and 1933, actually.

Had forgotten about that, admittedly, but the point was that he did not have a position in the government at the time of the invasion.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Mr. Sunshine posted:

No, it's titled simply "Reinhard Heydrich" and written by the norwegian author Knut Kristofersen.

Funny thing: googling the author revealed that the book has peculiar titles in different editions: The original Norwegian is Den musikalske bøddel, "The executioner with musical talent", the Swedish edition is named Heydrich, Förintelsens arkitekt ("Architect of annihilation") and the Danish is Heydrich. Det tredje riges bøddel ("Executioner of the third Reich"). Doesn't seem like it has been published outside those countries, though.

Kopijeger fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 20, 2014

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
And "pogrom" in cyrillic script.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
Plus, its not like the USSR didn't have their share of white elephants and duds:

The T-35: a heavy tank with five turrets, expensive, slow and mechanically unreliable. Production run ended at 61 units.

quote:

There is a lot of pointing out that the Allies promised a second front and didn't deliver until nobody but the most steadfast fanatics believed in German victory, really basic factual information (major offensives, who went where, meeting at Elbe), the begrudging admission that the Sherman was a good tank too (not as good as the T-34 or IS-2, of course), and the obligatory mention that the entire Western world shat their pants when they saw an IS-3 and scrambled around to find a countermeasure to it ASAP.

What, if anything, did they say about their naval power, strategic bombing capability, the massive industrial capacity of the United States and the atomic bomb? And when did the "Western World" ever see an IS-3 in action, considering that it was apparently only used in Manchuria?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Dwarf posted:

Wasn't von Manstein part Jewish?

Some historians believe so, but the evidence is inconclusive. He certainly did not identify as such.

There were some high-ranking figures who had their Jewish ancestry "overlooked" due to being well-connected:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Milch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Rogge

Special mention goes to this fellow; featured in propaganda as "the perfect German soldier", he was expelled from the army due to being half-Jewish and later had to rescue his own father from internment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Goldberg

Otherwise, there is this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling#Prominent_Mischlinge

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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Arbite posted:

Lotta Svärd
Leo Skurnik
Salomon Klass

Three Jewish Finns who were awarded the Iron Cross (they all declined).

Lotta Svärd was the name of an organisation.

From this article:

quote:

Another woman, Dina Poljakoff, who worked as a nursing assistant, is believed to have made such an impression on her German patients that, like Skurnik and Klass, she was awarded the Iron Cross (the third and final Finnish Jew to have been offered the medal). “Non-Aryan women were not meant to tend to Aryan men and the Germans knew my mother was Jewish, but despite all this, they liked her,” says Aviva Nemes-Jalkanen, the daughter of Steinbock.

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