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bobkatt013 posted:It was more that she keeps on trying to get involved with magic, and then used as a pawn as seen in Carey's first storyline. Will definitely give this a reread. My recollection is that she simply sucks at magic, but I suppose it could be taken as opening yourself up to the poo poo and getting burned when you realize its much more serious than you expected. My most recent recollection of Gemma though was the WTF cameo in Mina's run. I'm sure Zatanna's father would have some spooky thing to say about this, or something from Books of Magic. quote:Was the mini series that bad? I remember she was pretty cool in Sandman. Not Trench Coat Brigade bad no. The whole John being reincarninated over and over or the fate woven into his family thing left a bad taste in my mouth. Chalk it up to personal taste (see also the wrong people in the thread who like Azz's run :P )
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Honestly, out of all the crimes an artist can commit, drawing samey faces is a pretty minor one. He's not exactly Liefeld. Dillon has a weird quality to his art that I can't place. I really dislike his style but it's hard to say why. Maybe it's because his samey faces are all very unattractive, or that everyone always seems oddly stiff. There's no fluidity to his figures.
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Martello posted:Dillon has a weird quality to his art that I can't place. I really dislike his style but it's hard to say why. Maybe it's because his samey faces are all very unattractive, or that everyone always seems oddly stiff. There's no fluidity to his figures. I think Dillon's art really worked in Preacher, but that's about it. I don't really like it on Hellblazer, it was okay for Punisher but not amazing, and anywhere else it just doesn't work.
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Bilirubin posted:The whole John being reincarninated over and over or the fate woven into his family thing left a bad taste in my mouth. Agreed on both points.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I don't agree with Rhyno much, but if he and I are the only two who step up to bat for Azzarello's run so be it. Constantine in prison was a return to the Constantine as seen by Swamp Thing, mysterious and dangerous and scary. It doesn't really jibe with the rest of Hellblazer, where John is constantly on the backfoot until he burns and breaks whatever he needs to hurt the other guy worse. We're best friends now and you are never getting rid of me.
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I also love that the big badguy behind everything in Azzarello's run was Vertigo Bruce Wayne. His motivation was both stone cold and almost totally understandable.
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Medullah posted:I think Dillon's art really worked in Preacher, but that's about it. I don't really like it on Hellblazer, it was okay for Punisher but not amazing, and anywhere else it just doesn't work. Orlok the Assassin has a message for you. 
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In Hellblazer 163, the second part of the two-parter illustrated by Guy Davis that flashes back to the days of Mucous Membrane to set up the story of SW Mason, who's the mysterious figure who kills Angie? Destiny?
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Pope Guilty posted:In Hellblazer 163, the second part of the two-parter illustrated by Guy Davis that flashes back to the days of Mucous Membrane to set up the story of SW Mason, who's the mysterious figure who kills Angie? Destiny? No. But I have no idea who it is.
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I updated the OP with the tv trailer, any other info I should put up there? I must have unbookmarked this thread but with the tv show coming out I am guessing there might be some resurgence in the comics hopefully?!
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Bilirubin posted:The whole John being reincarninated over and over or the fate woven into his family thing left a
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NBC have announced that the show will debut on October 24th.
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Another new trailer for the TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8YAlnMVELw
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Flaggy posted:Another new trailer for the TV show: teen not tyne eh?
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Bilirubin posted:Will definitely give this a reread. My recollection is that she simply sucks at magic, but I suppose it could be taken as opening yourself up to the poo poo and getting burned when you realize its much more serious than you expected. My most recent recollection of Gemma though was the WTF cameo in Mina's run. I'm sure Zatanna's father would have some spooky thing to say about this, or something from Books of Magic. What happened with Gemma in Milligan's run left a bad taste in my mouth for what was otherwise a pretty inoffensive series of stories. A bit of a bore, though. I've read every Constantine except Delano's run, and I still think they're all worth reading. Which run was it where it ended with Cheryl biting it after Constantine thinks he's won the day? That is one of the hardest hitting endings I've ever read in a funny page.
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NarkyBark posted:Dr. Fate's helmet was in that trailer... Indeed. I wonder who else might show up. You know, a certain green mossy dude has a deep connection to our boy John...
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Rhyno posted:Indeed. I wonder who else might show up. You know, a certain green mossy dude has a deep connection to our boy John... Is John going to bang his girl?
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LordPants posted:Is John going to bang his girl? I mean, that's what I was getting at.
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Rhyno posted:I mean, that's what I was getting at. I GET JOKES.  edit: I just thought you were just talking about their general affinity for one another, my bad. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Shageletic posted:What happened with Gemma in Milligan's run left a bad taste in my mouth for what was otherwise a pretty inoffensive series of stories. A bit of a bore, though. I've read every Constantine except Delano's run, and I still think they're all worth reading. Which run was it where it ended with Cheryl biting it after Constantine thinks he's won the day? That is one of the hardest hitting endings I've ever read in a funny page. That was Carey. He then goes into Hell thinking he can save her, but she choices to stay in hell due to her husband being there.
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Shageletic posted:What happened with Gemma in Milligan's run left a bad taste in my mouth for what was otherwise a pretty inoffensive series of stories. A bit of a bore, though. I've read every Constantine except Delano's run, and I still think they're all worth reading. Which run was it where it ended with Cheryl biting it after Constantine thinks he's won the day? That is one of the hardest hitting endings I've ever read in a funny page. I gave up on the title entirely in Milligan's run. Agree on the spoiled bit BTW, very powerful
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Medullah posted:So if anyone is involved in the seedy underbelly of internet crime, the pilot has leaked. It's tempting, but what if it's really good, and then I have to wait until November for the second episode? Or what if it sucks and I have to listen to people being optimistic about it until then?
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Skwirl posted:It's tempting, but what if it's really good, and then I have to wait until November for the second episode? Or what if it sucks and I have to listen to people being optimistic about it until then? And for the goon who mentioned it, there actually is a cutesy little reference to a certain mossy green fellow, but as a background gag, right before the helmet of Fate thing. Not sure if it means anything or if it's a winking reference. Also it's literally the best new thing coming to NBC so wherever this show falls for you, expect that much worse from the rest of their lineup, as a general heads-up. The don't think I made it fully through anything else.
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Space_Butler posted:And for the goon who mentioned it, there actually is a cutesy little reference to a certain mossy green fellow, but as a background gag, right before the helmet of Fate thing. Not sure if it means anything or if it's a winking reference. PLEASESAYITSTHETATTOOPLEASESAYITSTHETATTOO e. whoa sorry I thought I had outgrown real fan enthusiasm Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Space_Butler posted:And for the goon who mentioned it, there actually is a cutesy little reference to a certain mossy green fellow, but as a background gag, right before the helmet of Fate thing. Not sure if it means anything or if it's a winking reference. In the trailer or the pilot?
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Rhyno posted:In the trailer or the pilot? In the pilot itself. Also, the helmet of Fate may tie into another item that the new girl has on her. It definitely implies that the show is going to play around with the larger magical side of the DCU, the same way that Arrow has its own corner carved out without going full blown DCU. Bilirubin posted:PLEASESAYITSTHETATTOOPLEASESAYITSTHETATTOO The big green guy reference is a small sculpture of a head in a display case. It's a little hard to make out because the video was grainy and in a dimly lit room, but it's green, has red eyes, and has the trademark nose holes and upside down tan V running down the face from the nose to the neck. It's not an actual head, just some kind of relic, but it was too specifically shown and focused on for a few seconds.. Time will tell if it means anything or is just a cutesy nod. Oh, and it's found in an old creepy house in the woods, that belonged to her father. The girl's father is named Jasper, and all these items are found in cases or on pedestals, as well as some dialogue from Constantine that implies her father specifically sought out relics and stored them here for safekeeping. As far as the helmet of Fate she walks over and stares at it, then picks it up and looks straight at it. John warns her to put it down "before it takes control of her". This whole time, there's a musical cue and a direct focus on the helmet, it's not just an easter egg in the background. So with how blatant network tv tends to be, I take that to mean it'll come back into play sometime later. Lastly, tying into above, she has a pendant which plays a heavy part in her magical abilities and the episode itself. Considering the focus scene on the helmet, and the pendant having been given to her by her father, one has to wonder if it's the Amulet of Anubis. There's nothing explicitly stated, just some dot connecting and speculation, but given the obvious visual cues and long con setups in the episode, it's certainly not impossible. Edit 2: Welp, Rich Johnston doesn't care about secrecy, he just posted a shitload of screens about all the easter eggs in the whole episode, for anyone that wants to ruin themselves. Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Zed is coming. e. related article about the departure of the female lead from the trailer http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/10/true-blood-alum-lucy-griffiths-departs-nbcs-constantine/ Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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sporklift posted:So are they scrapping what they have or will Zed just be the second arc? They only have the pilot and second episode, so far as I know, and the second episode is being reworked to throw Liv under a bus in traditional Constantine style. The show doesn't launch until 24th October, so they have plenty of time to produce 11 more episodes.
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Jedit posted:They only have the pilot and second episode, so far as I know, and the second episode is being reworked to throw Liv under a bus in traditional Constantine style. Never too early to start collecting the ghosts
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Venmoch posted:
They've been clear that John will be seen to be a smoker, but due to TV regulations he can't be seen actually smoking. They've got around it by having him preparing to light up, pitching butts or holding lit cigarettes without drawing on them.
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I've been reading the thread, then went to the facebook and laughed because there's a few clueless people that think this is a sequel for the movie, then rolled my eyes because 1)people can't stop whining about the smoking part,2)people writing essays about how the writers of the show should "really write Constantine". And,so, it seems there's another new character announced: quote:Constantine found its big Papa. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/08/15/michael-james-shaw-constantine-tv-exclusive/14124507/
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Jedit posted:They've been clear that John will be seen to be a smoker, but due to TV regulations he can't be seen actually smoking. I was just glad to see some form of confirmation about it! That said, there's a few things I'm not expecting to see, like a wizard who can conjour illusions by smoking crack (Haunted was an excellent story that would make a fantastic episode). But that may go a little further that TV execs are willing to go.
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It's slightly hilarious to me that Papa Midnite is consistently brought up when they adapt Hellblazer. He's in the first issue, but he dies in the second, and isn't really brought up again. (I haven't read the Papa Midnite mini, maybe that's really great). He's in the Keanu Reeves movie too, but as a bouncer a magic bar. I think they just like the name and there aren't that many black people in the comics. If they centered it around New York, or tied it into the trans-continental railroads they could use Map.
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Skwirl posted:It's slightly hilarious to me that Papa Midnite is consistently brought up when they adapt Hellblazer. He's in the first issue, but he dies in the second No he doesn't. Midnite doesn't die until issue 75, and even then he's not actually dead.
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Skwirl posted:It's slightly hilarious to me that Papa Midnite is consistently brought up when they adapt Hellblazer. He's in the first issue, but he dies in the second, and isn't really brought up again. (I haven't read the Papa Midnite mini, maybe that's really great). He's in the Keanu Reeves movie too, but as a bouncer a magic bar. I think they just like the name and there aren't that many black people in the comics. If they centered it around New York, or tied it into the trans-continental railroads they could use Map. Have you actually read the comics and did you even pay attention to the film?
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Last one in the thread probably to have seen the "leaked" trailer but other than his voice not being quite what I envisioned I really enjoyed it! About 15 minutes in and I was thinking that they had "gotten" John much much better than that film thing. Am cautiously optimistic for this series.
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