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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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https://twitter.com/UniStudios/status/1309169066897219596

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Florida has a lot of cases and a lot of deaths if you just look at raw numbers, but in terms of death rates, as in how many cases had fatal outcomes, the number is not as bad as the initial outbreak in the northeast early in the spring. DeSantis is a moron and obviously focused only on unemployment but he is riding on good management from hospitals with the ill.

It's possible that Florida benefits from increased knowledge and familiarity with prevention measures (e.g people got the messsage to wash their hands more by June). In any event, New York is not the example to follow either. Especially since their data shows a huge racial bias in outcomes.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Disney isn't going to change poo poo. Tourism giants like Disney and the Vegas casinos were drawing up safety guidelines for a reopened environment before politicians even considered reopening them. They did not amass all that political power when they located WDW just to listen to civic spats between county regulators.

It's kind of interesting to see what Florida is willing to risk it's tourism industry's credibility on which Nevada is not. From what I can see, you can pack a Miami nightclub under this order.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Sep 26, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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So long as Disney continues to keep a Dapper Dans at every park, I don't think live atmosphere-entertainment is dead, but I think a bunch of guys on a balcony playing jazz-band soundtracks and the occasional standard isn't what they want. Interactivity is the key word right now, acts that can be flexible/improvisational and leave the guest with a story to tell. And what they do is great but it isn't that.

It sucks when a favorite thing that's been around for a long time like that leaves, though. I almost cried when Rod Miller retired from Disneyland, he was why I picked up learning piano.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Well that’s, uh, exactly the kind of ride I don’t want.

I’m guessing it’s Orlando exclusive? Can’t see USH going after the Magic Mountain crowd.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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https://twitter.com/RobPlays/status/1311048794285506567

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Hazo posted:

Wow what an absolute rear end in a top hat move by Disney. Maybe I’m biased but I don’t see WDW pulling something like that based on how willing they’ve been to tell Desantis and his fellow trumpsuckers to go gently caress themselves regarding relaxing mask rules.

WDW is making enough money to get by, and can begin hosting conventions even if Disney/Reedy Creek will set safety standards for them. Disneyland earns very little hotel revenue, comparatively, as it only has three company-owned hotels and the city owns an adjacent convention center. On the other hand, Disneyland will have a poo poo-ton of money from Annual Passholders as soon as they can open even if they have state limits on how many of those passholders can go at once, so gently caress them anyhow.

On the other hand, Disneyland will eventually go on a hiring spree and since many of the jobs are union people will probably have everything they did before.

Dugong posted:

That statement is garbage. Maybe it’s because I don’t live in the U.S. but openly admitting fire and rehire decisions is unbelievable.

As a result of a law that requires companies give notification of a large number of layoffs, there was going to be some kind of statement and PR spin. They couldn't just do it without admission.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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https://twitter.com/gabriellerusson/status/1311308618281746432

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Adventures By Disney (slapping mouse ears on typical travel agency tour guide stuff) seems like easy pickings to me. They’re basically just trying to grab money from people who are tired of/disinterested in the theme parks at that point.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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WDWNT is the sort of toxic fan site that’s super wrapped up in company politics in ways that is very consistent with the worst corners of the fandom, which is the core of many reasons why I unsubscribed a long time ago.

They use Creepy Chapek Photo anywhere they can, including their 404 page like some kind of weird korn.jpg.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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BlueBayou posted:

I like Haunted Mansion Holiday.......

But I also don't live in SoCal so maybe I'd feel differently if I were a local

The problem is the Holiday version is so extensive that it shuts the ride down for not insignificant amounts of time to add and remove the stuff, so the amount of the year that it actually is the original show is like March-July. And if you're not a local, that means there's regular long stretches where if you visit you won't see Mansion at all.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Haunted Mansion Holiday:
New music and narration track with a new Ghost Host track (I can’t remember if it’s the same guy from WDW HalloWishes)
New stretching room paintings and projection on the ceiling)
Huge new piece in the boarding area
New lighting
Holiday touches on stuff
Big wreath with teeth added in the hallway
Entirely new Madame Leota film, Leota's face is provided by an imagineer who is the daughter of the original 1960s Leota. Leota's voice is the lady who replaced Eleanor Audrey as the voice of Leota, Maleficent, and Lady Tremaine.
A huge, animated, sometimes moving cake is made each year by the pastry team at the central kitchen. This thing weights hundreds of pounds and often lights up and does things when a car passes by. It’s different every year.
The entire attic scene is removed (afaik, not merely curtained) and changed to a new scene
The graveyard is extensively overhauled with the addition of Pumpkin Hill that lights up, a Jack AA where the frightened man was, new singing busts, etc.
Hitchhiking Ghosts curtained and replaced with an Oogie Boogie AA and game show prop
Mirror ghost effects changed.

I mean, it’s extensive. It’s about six weeks to put in and then about six weeks to remove, which is three months there’s no Mansion at all.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Oct 10, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I keep wondering why I haven't gone back in so long, and then I look at my old reservations receipt from 2005:

code:
February 7, 2006-February 13, 2006 (6 nights)

1 Adult

Resort Name:     Disney's Port Orleans Resort - French Quarter
Resort Category: Moderate
Room Type:       Standard View Room
Ticket Type:     7-Day Magic Your Way with Park Hopper and Water Park Fun and More options

Total Price:        $1,001.87
That poo poo's like $1,700 even after this sale. Wake me up when I can buy a 6 nights at Disney with a park hopper ticket for my $1200 stimulus. (Which wouldn't keep up with the pace of inflation because boy howdy have I been hosed by the past thirteen or so years of the US economy.)

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Five Nights at Freddy's fans have a lot to get excited over.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Superrodan posted:

Was that an optical illusion, or do you decapitate yourself on that Mini-Matterhorn unless you duck?

No, adults have to tuck their head away in multiple directions through the ride to not lose it.

I clicked on the link expecting a Nara Dreamland quality deathtrap and I wasn't disappointed. Nice track work, though. He just needs to grind and rust the bejeezus out of it so it becomes as spine-shattering rough as the real one.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Nov 12, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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It's unfortunate that the state of Magic Kingdom eliminates any chance that Disney render Space Mountain into a decoration piece for three years while they demolish and rebuild the ride inside, but at least Space Mountain Featuring Banked Turns finally happened somewhere on the east coast.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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DL's space mountain was torn down and rebuilt over two years back like around 2007. But even the 1977 version was better than MK's that opened only two years prior. The problem was they added speakers in 1998 as part of Tomorrowland's pivot to Fake Discoveryland, and the speakers weighed the cars down so much that it destroyed the track. But it was still a completely different ride with banked turns.

Magic Kingdom's Space was more or less an attempt to bring the Matterhorn to a more rain-soaked climate, right down to the double tracks and everything. And it shows because both rides are now back-breakers. There's imagineers who worked on Space FL who later commented that they compromised on the track and that it was a rough clunker even at opening. It remains largely because until TRON opens it's one of the few draws to that side of the park. Magic Kingdom's biggest drawback is that it doesn't have the ride density that Disneyland does, so if you shut down Space Mountain then Tomorrowland is kinda dead because Star Tours is in another theme park and can't pick up the slack.

If TRON works well enough to give T-Land a signature ride that allows Space to shut down for 2-3 years, things might improve.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 19, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Fame Douglas posted:

Imagine this person getting to experience classic stained glass windows in Europe and realizing it isn't just Disney kitch

I don't think they're saying "Disney invented stained glass." The opening of the mainline Kingdom Hearts games all start on this huge window that's laid out in a strongly pattern not unlike a wall clock. I'd wager the odds that the Imagineer who designed that deliberately tried to appeal to gamers/weebs is probably about 70% or so. Yes there are the types who watch Hunchback and think the designs copied from real-life Notre Dame are "hidden Mickeys", but the resemblance is too uncanny for that.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I'd say at least Disney Security is accountable to someone unlike the real cops, though the story of how iThemePark got banned from WDW is mostly nutso bullshit. (Well, what obviously broke the camel's back and got him trespassed was that he was communicated intending to sue the company over said nutso bullshit, but it was still nutso bullshit.)

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Nov 24, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Fartington Butts posted:

Haven't heard of them before, but what'd they do? Searching is only giving me their Twitter and FB.

He alleges that a plainclothes security person would tail him for years, including areas outside the parks, ride monorails with him, and even enter the restrooms with him and watch him, and that this has been going on for seven years or so.

He finally had it with this and when he found the guy sitting on a bench at Epcot watching him he took the guy's picture and went to Guest Relations to complain about harassment. In comes the Security manager who deadpans that the photo isn't security and is totally just some random guest so you should delete it right now while I watch you. iTP refuses and goes home, goes to Epcot the next day, and finds they've written up a trespass for him.

Now that's his side of the story summarized. It could be that there's something he didn't include, or maybe he's a legit creepshow in which case we'll probably hear about his Universal ban coming soon. My belief is that he tipped too much about his intentions to take the company to court, so it's easier for someone to tell their boss "I got rid of that guy who was trying to collect material for a lawsuit" than "that guy is probably trying to sue us but I dunno I let him in anyway."

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Nov 25, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I dunno. It all sounded over the top to me. I'm a rather paranoid person about such things because I've been potentially deemed suspicious at casinos where the security is much more intense, and it still sounded a little farfetched.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Fluffy Bunnies posted:

I'm baffled as to why they would trespass him when he... deleted the picture and complied, apparently? what?

He didn't delete it, in fact after he left he made copies so he could show them to supervisors.

The long, rambling YouTube video that he later made private is here. For your convenience I skipped to the part where his security guard paranoia begins with the same guard stalking him all over property from 2013-2017, but the final event at Epcot is at about 15 min or so.

I'll warn you, though. His story is tedious as all hell.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Nov 26, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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No? Most of the rides, especially big ones, will go down for months at a time. They're not letting the park go full River Country.

It probably sucks to live in the immediate surrounding neighborhood though, due to all the vermin going elsewhere for food.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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alg posted:

DL looked fine on the holiday special they had Thanksgiving night

Pretty sure that was old/reused footage from a prior holiday special. A “Filmed 2017” graphic flashed by at one point.

But yes, Disneyland used to not be open all the time and even I remember when it wasn’t open every day of the week so at some point in your vacation you had to find something else to do. Even when Disney was at risk of being split apart by vulture capitalists and most of the lights on Main Street had burned out, things weren’t that much worse than they were earlier this year with Jungle Cruise boats sinking etc.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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About loving time.

https://twitter.com/thr/status/1334610846547402752

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I always had heard Via Napoli was pretty good?

I assume Disney just tries to make pizza that is enjoyable to the largest segment of the audience. NY pizza kinda sucks, especially if you think using your hands and folding it is gross.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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My dream is that the castle restaurant goes back to a middling steakhouse without character pomp in a great location.

I get that families give Disney a lot of money to get to meet Cinderella inside the castle and have her call the family daughter ‘princess’ and whatnot, but give adult couples looking for a romantic dinner and people who like atmosphere the place in the evenings. Maybe use the castle restaurant in the day for princess meals and Be Our Guest in the evening.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I know I've told the story before, but I think the worst thing I've seen at a character dinner is a character getting berated by the manager right in front of me for failing to acknowledge a family. I understand that perspective, but it sucked to watch the character have to pantomime apologia while the manager had the privilege of speaking his rant.

I've had a lot of fun with characters in the parks, but when I meet them in restaurants I'm basically like "hope you're holding up, take care." There's not much else I got as a middle-aged man stuffing my face who is probably older than the person in the suit and feeling just slightly guilty about it.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Dec 6, 2020

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Jul 9, 2001

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Nottherealaborn posted:

:stonk: Please tell me that wasn’t at Disney.

Crystal Palace breakfast. Piglet getting chewed out by CM Lead in the middle of the dining room. He wasn't being loud, but he chose to do this business right at my table, and all Piglet could do was just mock surprised jazzhands. This was a lawwwng time ago, btw, probably around 12 years.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Dec 6, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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https://twitter.com/courtneysuchart/status/1341169356617740288

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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As someone who only watches rides on YouTube, Railway and Rise look equally fun to me, but Railway is more impressive in some regard. Like it’s easy to write off 90% of its effects as “just projections”, but good heavens those are some seriously cool projections.

The part that blows me away is how they move the cars 70-80% into a darkened room and then all the components come alive. The darkened room gives the impression of saving energy but they’re projecting the darkened outline of the stuff that lights up on the walls even in the “off” mode so when it comes on it’s like watching the sun rise over the horizon although a little hyperactive.

While you’re somewhat ruining the illusion for yourself if you turn your head backwards during the waterfall scene, if you do there’s actually a clean transition to the underwater wallpaper that goes on back there just in case you thought to twist your neck and catch them changing the scenery.

Meanwhile, among people who actually get to vacation at these places I’ve heard that Rise is a technical nightmare that “pulls a Yeti” on a grab bag of effects that seems to change each weekend, and a queue that makes me think they learned nothing from the Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland since they made a lot of the same mistakes.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Dec 26, 2020

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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PurpleButterfly posted:

To what mistakes are you referring? Interactive elements that work until they don't, and nobody ever bothers to get them working again? :smith:

Well, that, but also the fact that the queue was built to work in the way that the park operated in 1995, and it's inflexible to adapt the amount of backstory delivered in Indy's queue in, say, a FastPass Return.

You know how Indy had that "what effects will be broken this week" thing for many years, when the Anaheim AP obsessives would set up web sites keeping track of whether Mara was emitting smoke or whether the projectors were broken or whether the rolling ball prop was indeed spinning? Rise has had a lot of that. It has plenty of "B-Modes" akin to the infamous Everest Yeti that hasn't worked for a decade. This is where you get some less impressive alternative sequence that visually blockades you from seeing the broken effect, but instead the knowledgeable rider knows that getting the backup show means an effect is broken.

As for the queue, logistically speaking, the queue was designed to entertain large clumps of people simultaneously. Imagine the Tower of Terror library followed by the Mansion's stretching room, both of which are designed to hold and amuse ~50 or so at a time. Rise's queue is a lot of that, which is a problem when you should never under any circumstance gather a large clump of mixed company. That means choosing between inefficiency or massive intrusions into the script for real-world necessity. It also means this awkward/tedious "boarding groups" system that was meant to be phased out after launch crowds dipped have remained due to reduced capacity. You end up with that same feeling as Indy where what was envisioned is simply incompatible with reality.

Add in that the entertainment in Rise's queue is not a 60 year old Ghost Host recording but in large part on the shoulders of Cast Members in cosplay who still have to follow CDC guidelines while role-playing as living breathing citizens of the Star Wars universe.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I tried to communicate the challenges of the queue in a way that wouldn't spoil it's contents, but also why it reminds me of Indy. There's an old-fashioned part of me that believes a ride should simply be shut down rather than accept so much logistical compromise, but if I worked at Disney I would never actually endorse that idea because I'd fear for the cast's jobs.

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Jul 9, 2001

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Fartington Butts posted:

I know this is basic-rear end fried food, but this is something I would make a bee-line to in DL/MK.

It’s always been kind of weird that Tomorrowland Terrace at Disneyland has the reputation of the park’s worst food, while at MK the place of the same name has the reputation of being surprisingly acceptable most of the time.

I wish they would just clone Liberty Tree Tavern in California. Maybe replace Hungry Bear with one when they re-iterate Critter Country? Imagine looking out the windows of that place and seeing the Mark Twain paddle by.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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It's Magic Kingdom. You can't just have an opening to an enclosed building like that or it will just fill with seagulls. :v:

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Good to see that Orlando is taking after post-recession Vegas and leaving vertical construction as unfinished eyesores for years and years. About time you guys got in on this!

In reality, though, the original Haunted Mansion’s little house sat abandoned and inaccessible for, what, five years? Seven? They built it in 1962 or so and then got lost in Worlds Fair projects, and when the ride opened Walt was gone.

And of course there were the Art of Animation hotels. Sometimes Disney just leaves poo poo.

Edit: But they also absolutely deliver stuff much later than anticipated sometimes. How can anyone who saw Test Track’s development say otherwise?

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jan 3, 2021

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Jim Hill is often wrong, btw.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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https://twitter.com/ScottGustin/status/1347934894459150336

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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skipdogg posted:

For 1/3 the cost I can fly to Disneyland, stay across the street at the Tropicana, and deal with getting myself from LAX to the motel.
You can, but you can't, if you get my drift. Based on past tourist hardships the parks SHOULD be throwing sales out the rear end, but it's probably because Disneyland is running zero per day that Disney World is slowly turning into a club for the super-rich.

I know I posted it earlier in this thread, but I have the email receipts of my booking for 2006 and it's hilarious how much more expensive the same trip is. A little bit of that is inflation and a little bit of that could be solved by making some adjustments. The value resort options are better now than 15 years ago, even if the square footage leaves something to be desired. It's still weird to see World get more and more expensive as fewer and fewer people can afford to go.

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Disneyland has done 24 hours at least a few times. Most famously in the late 80s when Star Tours opened, but they also celebrated a leap year with a 24 hour day.

You could probably do Magic Kingdom over 24 hours. Animal Kingdom is a no for obvious reasons. Epcot is maybe a little iffy because of maintenance and employee shifts (maybe I'm wrong but I feel like Epcot in my limited experience needs a lot more CMs than the typical park) and Studios you could maaaaaaaaaaybe but I've never stayed at a hotel close enough to ToT to judge.

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