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TheModernAmerican posted:Yes, Bi Now Gay Later, Trist lost twice in this series. But she's the most powerful champion in the game right now, it's loving crazy. I don't understand why people aren't autobanning her if they aren't first-pick. It's so loving ridiculous.
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Dragongem posted:by the way, that was absolutely not trist there, that was the fact that c9 got bottlenecked into the entrance for the ori ult and wild turtle and company could just light them up The lowest anyone was after the ori ult was like 60% and it was like maybe 2 people and they became bottlenecked AFTER the ult, like 3-5 seconds later
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Dragongem posted:by the way, that was absolutely not trist there, that was the fact that c9 got bottlenecked into the entrance for the ori ult and wild turtle and company could just light them up Dyrus, Ori, and Trist were all super farmed. Maokai was not. That meant the game. Also holy poo poo the TSM Bo5 were awesome vs LMQ and C9. The best playoffs ever!
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Sep 2, 2014 01:14
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I'm anything but a TSM fan, but they've really deserved this.
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Jerkface posted:Dyrus, Ori, and Trist were all super farmed. Maokai was not. That meant the game. All weekend was good, very impressed.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:15
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TheModernAmerican posted:Yes, Bi Now Gay Later, Trist lost twice in this series. But she's the most powerful champion in the game right now, it's loving crazy. I didn't say that she wasn't. I said that she wasn't as big of a factor in the earlier games.
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anyway, c9 had a window in which to exploit where corki was still stronger, that was right after they killed the inhib i think they actually caught some nerves because you could tell that even though they were stronger and had map advantage, they didnt want to start a fight
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Sep 2, 2014 01:16
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I feel that Bjerg played really well this series. Tristana was obviously MVP, but I think Bjerg played way better then WildTurtle.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:16
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I'm just glad NA isn't being crushed by one team any more. Make things a lot more interesting.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:16
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Vermain posted:I don't understand why people aren't autobanning her if they aren't first-pick. It's so loving ridiculous. Like, do people only look at the very end of the game? Did you not see 20 minutes of Sneaky's Corki controlling the map? If C9 went in aggressively instead of letting Balls never farm and WildTurtle farm freely, this could have been their game.
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Dragongem posted:by the way, that was absolutely not trist there, that was the fact that c9 got bottlenecked into the entrance for the ori ult and wild turtle and company could just light them up The real game was basically one question: can Bjergsen land a big ulti or can C9 bait or dodge it out - C9 won at least one fight where Bjerg never pulled the trigger at all on the ulti, and C9 wiped them when he whiffed it.
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Big TSM fan here, and I must admit I'm surprised they beat C9. TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
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Freaksaus posted:I'm anything but a TSM fan, but they've really deserved this.
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Vermain posted:I don't understand why people aren't autobanning her if they aren't first-pick. It's so loving ridiculous. We should start by figuring out why Trist was never first picked by anyone in this series. Maybe I'm missing a game but Trist was a pretty constant 4th pick. Called it 3-1 for TSM, close enough 
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Hypocrisy posted:Like, do people only look at the very end of the game? Did you not see 20 minutes of Sneaky's Corki controlling the map? It's almost like Corki is strong midgame but falls off, whereas Trist is a hypercarry. Wierd.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:17
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Almost none of the results I wanted to happen this split actually did happen. :/
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Dragongem posted:by the way, that was absolutely not trist there, that was the fact that c9 got bottlenecked into the entrance for the ori ult and wild turtle and company could just light them up If WildTurtle didn't flash the Corki ult she would have died and the fight would have gone the opposite way. So not a champion specific thing, but sometimes WildTurtle really does fantastic things.
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Hypocrisy posted:Like, do people only look at the very end of the game? Did you not see 20 minutes of Sneaky's Corki controlling the map? I'm speaking in general terms, and her win/loss record points to her being overpoweringly strong. It's especially obvious in a meta where it's easier than ever to stall the game out until you can catch up with infinite waveclear and 500 health shields being pooped out every 6 seconds.
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Unoriginal Name posted:It's almost like Corki is strong midgame but falls off, whereas Trist is a hypercarry. Wierd. Exactly. If you let Trist farm farm farm and blow your initiation then yeah, you're going to lose. C9 had plenty of opportunities to win that game but they stalled it out and paid the price.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:19
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TheModernAmerican posted:If WildTurtle didn't flash the Corki ult she would have died and the fight would have gone the opposite way. Turtles mechanics are godlike, its his decision making that sometimes turns off
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Sep 2, 2014 01:19
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Sep 2, 2014 01:20
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Also, god drat, I just posted this, but what a great loving series. Both teams played really well except for that stupid C9 level 1 in game 4. Bring on worlds! I hope the world finals is this close of a series.
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mushi posted:Also, god drat, I just posted this, but what a great loving series. Both teams played really well except for that stupid C9 level 1 in game 4. Bring on worlds! I hope the world finals is this close of a series. It's just going to be Samsung White and Blue.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:22
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I wonder why other regions don't have this much trouble with trist. In the last 4 sets of ogn games trist was picked like once and never banned and in lpl playoffs she she was neither picked nor banned.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It's just going to be Samsung White and Blue. I think Najin White Shield has a good chance of beating either of those teams, especially Samsung Blue.
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AParadox posted:I wonder why other regions don't have this much trouble with trist. In the last 4 sets of ogn games trist was picked like once and never banned and in lpl playoffs she she was neither picked nor banned. Koreans are clueless idiot morons who don't read this thread, that's why. But really, NA players are good and comfortable with Trist, and their champion pools tend to lag behind what the Koreans pick.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It's just going to be Samsung White and Blue. Personally, I'm rooting for Samsung White & Alliance, and I'm gonna stick with those two teams all the way through. Hopefully a team with good colors wins the championship because SKT's Red/Gold was so ugly 
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Hrm I guess there was no interview with Hai? I thought they were intending on that but maybe C9 peaced out super fast?
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AParadox posted:I wonder why other regions don't have this much trouble with trist. In the last 4 sets of ogn games trist was picked like once and never banned and in lpl playoffs she she was neither picked nor banned. I was trying to say something else, longer, and my brain's dead. Flameingblack posted:Last year everyone thought Samsung Ozone was gonna take it too, but they didn't make it out of groups and SKT and Royal Club shocked everyone, two underdogs from their regions. Anyone beating the Korean teams in Korea will be pure gold. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Oh my god, what a perfect, perfect game. It happened, guys. IT FINALLY HAPPENED! TSM won! This is seriously a HUGE milestone, not just for them but for NA in general. Finally, C9 isn't an unbeatable monster in playoffs. The top 3 of NA is finally good enough that each of them can hang with the others. This how a region levels up. I don't know how NA will perform this Worlds, but I KNOW they'll close the gap with Korea. Can't wait for the world finals!
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Yeah, people thought Ozone was going to run the table last year too.  Upsets always happen and yeah one of the Korean teams will probably win and there's probably a not-insignificant chance the finals will be two Korean teams, but even if that happens I hope the finals turn out better than 3 one sided stomps.
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I think Korea prefers ADCs who have closer powerspikes than Trist. Korean teams build scaling comps, but champs like Kog give you a midgame spike as well as that late game. Same with Twitch. And Vayne. Also Korea isn't like the god of innovation. EU/NA/China innovate picks and Korea eventually catches on and perfects them.
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mushi posted:Yeah, people thought Ozone was going to run the table last year too.
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Jerkface posted:I think Korea prefers ADCs who have closer powerspikes than Trist. Korean teams build scaling comps, but champs like Kog give you a midgame spike as well as that late game. Same with Twitch. And Vayne. Also Korea isn't like the god of innovation. EU/NA/China innovate picks and Korea eventually catches on and perfects them. Yeah but china is even worse in regard of picking trist and china is the land of the superstar adc's. In Eu she was picked but had much less success, in fact she was more successful in mid than being adc.
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I really want an NA team to bring Madlife over because its criminal that he's not going to be at worlds again.
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AParadox posted:Yeah but china is even worse in regard of picking trist and china is the land of the superstar adc's. In Eu she was picked but had much less success, in fact she was more successful in mid than being adc. I would think superstar ADCs like to duel and mechanic people and Trist just doesnt offer much... Edit: but I dunno man maybe at worlds we'll see Trist as a super contested ADC pick
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I really want an NA team to bring Madlife over because its criminal that he's not going to be at worlds again. I'd be fine with NA becoming the retirement home of former Korea pros.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I really want an NA team to bring Madlife over because its criminal that he's not going to be at worlds again. Shame he is not as good as he used to be anymore, no one even bans his thresh nowadays. Mata is the god sup now.
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