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Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Clothing's got nothing to do with stats, or at least it doesn't elsewhere. And Universe Mode is still there, so you can make 100-in-everything Kevin Steens to your heart's content. You just can't run through story mode with a pre-made steamroller, which is just good design.

flashy_mcflash posted:

Can you not even store mp3's on the PS4 drive? Maybe I'm being pedantic or generally dumb but I've never actually ripped a CD onto my PS3, just copied existing mp3's to the drive which I use for created entrances (well, not in 2K14 since that feature doesn't work for me).
No. The new consoles are streaming-capable but they never anticipated ripping or storing music as a priority. Sony's promised to patch it in for nearly a year

Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Aug 7, 2014

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I Before E
Jul 2, 2012



I think ROH is doing just fine.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

haha what is 'Bret Hart Mask'? Is it Bret under a mask or, fingers crossed, someone wearing Bret's face?

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

flashy_mcflash posted:

haha what is 'Bret Hart Mask'? Is it Bret under a mask or, fingers crossed, someone wearing Bret's face?

Teddy Hart has a mask of Bret Hart and he is obsessed with pee like in his book.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

flashy_mcflash posted:

haha what is 'Bret Hart Mask'? Is it Bret under a mask or, fingers crossed, someone wearing Bret's face?

It's Teddy Hart possessed by the pissy powers of the Bret Hart mask as documented in Twitter Superstar Bard "Best GM (Giant Muscles)" Maddox's twitter feed.

E: And Razor Swann is Rich Swann in a mask and doing a Razor Ramon gimmick.

Also, Razorblade Flock is the team of Raven and Shiima Xion.

Perigryn
Oct 22, 2010

TaJaaaaadoruuuuu

I Before E posted:

It's Teddy Hart possessed by the pissy powers of the Bret Hart mask as documented in Twitter Superstar Bard "Best GM (Giant Muscles)" Maddox's twitter feed.
OMG, this is how Teddy debuts his wrestling cats!

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Every now and then I'll play TEW and wish someone who knew how to make a modern game would remake the thing.

Like there has to be some program that is better for coding a game like this in this modern era.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

KungFu Grip posted:

Teddy Hart has a mask of Bret Hart and he is obsessed with pee like in his book.

I Before E posted:

It's Teddy Hart possessed by the pissy powers of the Bret Hart mask as documented in Twitter Superstar Bard "Best GM (Giant Muscles)" Maddox's twitter feed.

E: And Razor Swann is Rich Swann in a mask and doing a Razor Ramon gimmick.

Also, Razorblade Flock is the team of Raven and Shiima Xion.

I love everything about this.

triplexpac posted:

Every now and then I'll play TEW and wish someone who knew how to make a modern game would remake the thing.

Like there has to be some program that is better for coding a game like this in this modern era.

My god, seriously. I want to play TEW but the absurd difficulty (for me, anyway) of applying a mod or even installing the stupid thing so the fonts aren't all messed up is a dealbreaker. Like there's 200 Candy Crush clones out there, how has no one Kickstartered a decent version of this?

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

People say the same thing about Dwarf Fortress and it's a similar deal - it's a simulationist game, this one literally run off of a spreadsheet database. It's only going to get deeper and more granular at the expense of usability as time goes on. But it's a different sort of game in that you're meant to directly interact with and master the system to a point where you could conceivably "win".

Really the best you could ask for is letting players use an auto-booking AI that reacts to player commands (control of who's in feuds and who goes over, etc). That kind of defeats the purpose - experimenting for yourself and discovering roster configurations and getting limited guys over a big part of what makes the game fun - but just like DF, it would allow the RNG to play out weird and wild stories.

Really that's the big problem - the only actor that can make storylines coherent to read is a player.

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***


flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I don't think I've ever been so amazed with the models in a WWE game before. Hopefully they don't play like 8-bit Pro Wrestling.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.



Looks like Randy got caught rubbernecking.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

WWE 2k15: Randy Orton vs John Cena FOREVER

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
No idea what this game will look like in action, but drat I'm impressed by a WWE game screenshot for the first time in years.

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion


For comparison:

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I love that Ryback shot partly because he's flanked on both sides by Identical Fan #3.

e: haha I just noticed the third Identical Fan #3 on the lower left.

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
Reminds me of the crazy good intro for Smackdown Just Bring It.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQtoXGUoc0

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***
Can someone who knows a bit about game dev explain this.

The models look great because of this scanning tech, but aren't Yukes still *making* the game? The VC guys provide the technology, so is this basically information being sent to Yukes and then they generate the models/skins from that info? Interesting to know what's going on with how everything is being put together.

I guess the old models [PS3 era] were modelled by eye? I'm no modeller, but might explain why they sucked rear end.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

simosimo posted:

Can someone who knows a bit about game dev explain this.

The models look great because of this scanning tech, but aren't Yukes still *making* the game? The VC guys provide the technology, so is this basically information being sent to Yukes and then they generate the models/skins from that info? Interesting to know what's going on with how everything is being put together.

I guess the old models [PS3 era] were modelled by eye? I'm no modeller, but might explain why they sucked rear end.

IIRC, Yukes was using 2D images for skin reference then tweaking their stock model by eye to get the dimensions right. Given enough time, they coulda got it right. VC guys are using full 3D maps so they can get weird dimensions of a person's body just right.

Game quality in general is a function of time and money. The more you have of both, the better the quality. Unless you're the Battlecruiser 3000 guy, then I don't know what the hell happened there. 2K is willing to sink more money into this game than THQ ever was.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
If you're in Canada, it looks like Futureshop has the Hogan edition of 2k15 listed for the same $70 price as the standard. You could try and jump on that and see if they'll honour it?

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Alright, so in TEW I've got a product that's key on traditionalism, heavy on mainstream and medium on realism (with a smattering of very lows in things like hardcore and and cult). I'm somewhat perplexed regarding how to get my guys gaining momentum. Essentially what I've done is classic TV wrestling stuff - I've taken face / heel pairings of my "native" talents in the main event and upper midcard to be booked as never-losers, slotted into feuds with one another, and kept the remainder of my talent as dudes who trade wins with one another and job to the high card. The thing is that no matter what I do, show to show their momentum rarely rises above E+. My fed is currently in E- popularity / prestige and D+ momentum in my home region (it's pretty young). Is worker momentum shackled to fed momentum the way show grades are shackled by popularity?

I've also got two expensive guys who are pretty well-known and good workers (Drew Mac and Homicide) in a feud also on the never-lose list, and I've been getting solid D+ shows (good enough for awesome post-show reviews) by booking one in the main event and one in the semi-main every show. I could spend a lot more money to goose the ratings with a more over undercard but I'd rather do this on the cheap.

My product rates dudes evenly on performance and popularity, and I don't know if this is screwing me and keeping my dudes who aren't popular perpetually unpopular. I am managing to slowly build up momentum on my storylines and kinda-sorta cheating with angles to make sure everyone looks good (basically going heavy on classic promos where dudes putting both themselves and their rivals over), but I haven't had any blowoffs yet so I don't know if that will help.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
I just had a thought, what if 2k15 works off a different system for entrances and doesn't require ripping mp3s to the system because it can convert video files of various types so you can have entrance videos of anyone you want, thus also storing the music for those videos?

In other words, if you say create a video and upload on Youtube (like this one) you can just link to that video and it converts it into an entrance video and music, maybe even allowing customizers who make their own videos to set not just the Titantron but also the Minitron and Bannertron?

I mean it's completely baseless speculation, but if they've already done 110% better than our expectations we can dream right?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


I'm doing an article that lists the weirdest moments in wrestling video games and I'm looking for suggestions. The kind of stuff that's already on the list:

- That one Smackdown vs. Raw game where Candice magically transforms you into a woman.
- Totally-not-Andre-the-Giant as the final boss of WCW for NES.
- That Popeye video game about him wrestling aliens in outer space.
- That Game Boy Color game about rescuing Stephanie McMahon.
- Crush Hour.
- Bam Bam Bigelow committing mass murder in Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
The WCW game without rings.
The WWE game where you went around murdering dockworkers and destroying WWE merchandise.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The Def Jam games.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Gavok posted:

I'm doing an article that lists the weirdest moments in wrestling video games and I'm looking for suggestions. The kind of stuff that's already on the list:

- That one Smackdown vs. Raw game where Candice magically transforms you into a woman.
- Totally-not-Andre-the-Giant as the final boss of WCW for NES.
- That Popeye video game about him wrestling aliens in outer space.
- That Game Boy Color game about rescuing Stephanie McMahon.
- Crush Hour.
- Bam Bam Bigelow committing mass murder in Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game.

Winning the cage match in Wrestlemania: Steel Cage Challenge for NES by making it to the top of the cage, raising your hands in victory while presumedly a pirate goes "ARRRGH!!!!!!"

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5l63Pjbyc

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Gavok posted:

I'm doing an article that lists the weirdest moments in wrestling video games and I'm looking for suggestions. The kind of stuff that's already on the list:

- That one Smackdown vs. Raw game where Candice magically transforms you into a woman.
- Totally-not-Andre-the-Giant as the final boss of WCW for NES.
- That Popeye video game about him wrestling aliens in outer space.
- That Game Boy Color game about rescuing Stephanie McMahon.
- Crush Hour.
- Bam Bam Bigelow committing mass murder in Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game.

Voodoo Zombies in SvR 2009. That was just... weird.

Cartridgeblowers
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Bros 3

- That SvR game where Edge and Christian have a TIME MACHINE
- That Japan-only Fire Pro game that ends with the main character of story mode committing suicide
- The Mega Moves in WWF Raw
- Kwang the Ninja being in WWF Raw

Solomonic
Jan 3, 2008

INCIPIT SANTA
The entirety of Fire Pro Wrestling Special.

e:fb

Cartridgeblowers
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Bros 3


Hahahaha I forgot about this. SvR11 was so weird.

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches

Gavok posted:

I'm doing an article that lists the weirdest moments in wrestling video games and I'm looking for suggestions. The kind of stuff that's already on the list:

- That one Smackdown vs. Raw game where Candice magically transforms you into a woman.
- Totally-not-Andre-the-Giant as the final boss of WCW for NES.
- That Popeye video game about him wrestling aliens in outer space.
- That Game Boy Color game about rescuing Stephanie McMahon.
- Crush Hour.
- Bam Bam Bigelow committing mass murder in Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game.

Being able to do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf_cvARXUN8

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrewNM0kS_Y&t=430s

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
The fact this game exists is pretty weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSEbQsauTY

You can have ICP vs porn stars apparently.

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

Gavok posted:

I'm doing an article that lists the weirdest moments in wrestling video games and I'm looking for suggestions. The kind of stuff that's already on the list:

- That one Smackdown vs. Raw game where Candice magically transforms you into a woman.
- Totally-not-Andre-the-Giant as the final boss of WCW for NES.
- That Popeye video game about him wrestling aliens in outer space.
- That Game Boy Color game about rescuing Stephanie McMahon.
- Crush Hour.
- Bam Bam Bigelow committing mass murder in Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game.

Super Fire Pro Wrestling Special has already been mentioned, but the part where Dynamite Kid loses the title and commits suicide by jumping off of the Statue of Liberty.


edit: or, the arcade/Saturn release, Fire Pro: Blazing Tornado, where the giant cannibal hillbilly barefoot brawler Jailbreaker Bullnoi turns out to be an amnesiac political (religious?) leader. http://www.vazcomics.org/mamend/B/blzntrnd_2.htm

There's also the entirety of Knuckle Bash, wherein a buff Elvis impersonator (who turns enemies into electric guitars for his special) leads a trio of wrestlers to destroy an international crime syndicate that's dealing in genetic experimentation or... something.

LvK fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 9, 2014

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Skunkrocker posted:

I just had a thought, what if 2k15 works off a different system for entrances and doesn't require ripping mp3s to the system because it can convert video files of various types so you can have entrance videos of anyone you want, thus also storing the music for those videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0VnUY7tGIA

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

That SNES game where you can play as the Undertaker and he shoots ghosts at people.

Antitonic
Sep 24, 2011

Invented By Gandhi
As I recall, WCW Nitro for the PS1 had a ring set in a disco, where all the taunts were replaced with "Y-M-C-A". Unlock able characters included a bear and a ghost. Theoretically, you could have bears dancing in a wrestling game.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Antitonic posted:

As I recall, WCW Nitro for the PS1 had a ring set in a disco, where all the taunts were replaced with "Y-M-C-A". Unlock able characters included a bear and a ghost. Theoretically, you could have bears dancing in a wrestling game.

They also had a swing dancing level.

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