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Nuclear War posted:Hey Penguin, do you have an email or something you'd be willing to part with? I mentioned this thread to my wife and she suggested we pick your brain about spending a few years on Iceland culture and such wise? FreudianSlippers posted:https://grapevine.is/bestof/2017/guides/2017/04/18/best-of-reykjavik-concert-venues/ I ain't much for going out these days anyhow. Getting old and decrepit. 
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Hey Penguin, is there any difference in pronunciation between single n and double n endings? Ex. minn vs. mín, þinn vs þín? Thanks.
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Jun 3, 2017 05:54
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not penguin but: the vowel before nn is shorter than the one before a singular n. Þinn is a kind of short "thin" while þín has a longer "ee" sound.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:14
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Doktor Per posted:not penguin but: Ok, so it's to balance out the vowel? Or is just a strange spelling rule?
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Jun 4, 2017 03:33
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FreudianSlippers posted:https://grapevine.is/bestof/2017/guides/2017/04/18/best-of-reykjavik-concert-venues/ thanks for this!
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Jun 4, 2017 17:23
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Gorilla Radio posted:Ok, so it's to balance out the vowel? Or is just a strange spelling rule? Double consonants are generally an indicator of vowel length, i.e. the preceding vowel is shorter and often accompanied by a pre-aspirated stop. Thus: maki (spouse) is pronounced ma:ki, with a long vowel, whereas makki (horse's mane) is pronounced mahki, the h representing the pre-aspirated stop. The Wikipedia page on Icelandic orthography probably explains this better than I do under "Function of symbols." Note also that i and í are considered different letters, so the difference between þinn and þín is not only vowel length but also vowel sounds (i as the i in mist, í as the ee in meet). I hope this makes sense, I'm obviously not a linguist.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:51
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Just need to fume a bit. My mate has been able to fly Wow Air twice a year with his drivers license between Iceland and Denmark for years and the one time I try it they deny me boarding. I guess this is what I get for flying cheap.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:24
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Lol wtf aren't you Nordic??
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Jun 17, 2017 01:03
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IIRC Schengen should cover it, you shouldn't need a passport when traveling within the Schengen area
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Jun 17, 2017 01:17
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dor1 posted:IIRC Schengen should cover it, you shouldn't need a passport when traveling within the Schengen area A drivers license is not a travel document.
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Jun 17, 2017 01:22
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I always thought it was a remnant of an old pan-nordic free travel deal and not Schengen, because it pre-dated it.
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Jun 17, 2017 01:29
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Jeoh posted:A drivers license is not a travel document. No it's not, but you shouldn't need travel documents when traveling within Schengen.
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Jun 17, 2017 01:44
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Yeah an EU drivers license is a valid photo ID which is all you need to travel within the Schengen. The rub is that air companies are free to deny it if they please, but I talked to a nice SAS lady and she says they'll usually take it, though again they can and will deny it if there's anything the attendent feels is 'off'. So I'm getting an emergency passport done in half an hour and flying Iceland Air this time and from now on. Turns out hardwood floors aren't that bad to sleep on until a guy in a visibility vest tells you to gently caress off.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:51
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I travelled between Denmark - Faroe Islands on my passport, until the day came where I had forgotten it at home. That's when another nice SAS lady told me that my cruddy, printed-on-cardboard-then-laminated university student "ID" card was more than enough. I've been using that one for years now, and no one has ever batted an eyelid; and these are international flights, with all the security measures those imply. Guess I should stop taking that poo poo for granted, then, and dig out my passport again. So, uh, thanks for taking one for the team, Demiurge4 
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Jun 17, 2017 14:29
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The copper told me not to bother paying for the emergency passport and ask Iceland Air / SAS to check my drivers license, they said they'll take it  I got bumped though, apparently a flight cancelled and they wanted my seat for those passengers but they gave me 400 euro's and a free meal for 5 hours inconvenience and that about covers both tickets so hey all I really lost in the end is 20 hours.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:14
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In a lot of places on the continent you don't even need an ID to cross borders. You can literally just drive into the next country without anyone ever bothering you. My dad lives in Denmark but works a lot in Norway and sometimes on days off he nips over to Germany to stock up on soda and beer.
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FreudianSlippers posted:In a lot of places on the continent you don't even need an ID to cross borders. You can literally just drive into the next country without anyone ever bothering you. My dad lives in Denmark but works a lot in Norway and sometimes on days off he nips over to Germany to stock up on soda and beer. Yeah, but in that case he manages to do the very rare thing and avoid border controls. If you're taken in the German side of the border without a passport or driver's licence, it's a 35€ fine. Denmark will even go as far as to bar you entry if they suspect you're not a citizen.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:52
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Tias posted:Yeah, but in that case he manages to do the very rare thing and avoid border controls. If you're taken in the German side of the border without a passport or driver's licence, it's a 35€ fine. Denmark will even go as far as to bar you entry if they suspect you're not a citizen.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:15
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Tias posted:Yeah, but in that case he manages to do the very rare thing and avoid border controls. If you're taken in the German side of the border without a passport or driver's licence, it's a 35€ fine. Denmark will even go as far as to bar you entry if they suspect you're not a citizen. If he's driving then he can just show his license.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:30
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Demiurge4 posted:If he's driving then he can just show his license. Yeah, I guess I'm just bitter that I have to carry a passport everywhere, hehe. Still, the promise that we could travel freely in Europe after Schengen is a big fat lie if regular SS cards aren't enough - in my opinion anyway.
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Jun 17, 2017 23:09
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Foreign Substance posted:Double consonants are generally an indicator of vowel length, i.e. the preceding vowel is shorter and often accompanied by a pre-aspirated stop. Thus: maki (spouse) is pronounced ma:ki, with a long vowel, whereas makki (horse's mane) is pronounced mahki, the h representing the pre-aspirated stop. The Wikipedia page on Icelandic orthography probably explains this better than I do under "Function of symbols." Awhile ago, but thanks. However, now I'm confused again. I'm trying to differentiate between the sounds of the male and female versions of "chubby" þybbinn vs. þybbin, and the only difference I can hear is that the "n" is held slightly longer when doubled. Is this a good way to think about it? Also, it sounds like there's a pause between the "b"s resulting in both letters being pronounced- eg. þyb-bin vs þybin (very similar to how Turkish and Japanese treat double consonants, at least in my mind), yeah?
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Jun 28, 2017 16:24
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Gorilla Radio posted:Awhile ago, but thanks. Words ending in -in and -inn sound very similar in most instances, at least to my ear. In my experience many foreign speakers have a tendency to make the i-sound too long and/or the n-sound too soft when they pronounce words ending in -inn, so I suppose that's something to watch out for. As for the double b, I suppose it can sound like that when said slowly. It's still essentially a stop, but I don't think there's any problem with treating it as þyb-bin in your mind as long as it gets you where you're going, so to speak. So I'd say that works for words with a double b, but I don't think you can apply it to any other double consonant, I'm trying it out in my head right now and the results are... weird.
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I go under the needle on Saturday, so one last double check: Ekkert fæst án fórnar would be a translation of "You can't get anything without sacrifice" and would make sense as a stand-alone quote? Thanks.
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Aug 3, 2017 06:54
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It got that ole timey archaic sound but is grammatically correct. More modern and direct I guess would be "Án fórnar fæst ekkert"?
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Aug 3, 2017 17:31
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Down with the government! 
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Sep 15, 2017 16:31
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If there's a snap election, we will have had five governments in eleven years...  Bold prediction:
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Sep 15, 2017 17:02
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Here's my predicition: The Peoples Party, suddenly revealing their Stalinist tendencies, will execute a bloody revolution in parliament, when their wheelchairs and canes are revealed to be made entirely out of AK-47s and bullets. Revealing that their school of Marxism says that the only true proletariat are the disabled, we will all be forced into disability, with special exceptions made for moral disabilities (such as being a sociopath, psychopath or right wing). We will then enter a new, utopian state of existence. also what a time to decide to take a few days off and go into the countryside....
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Sep 17, 2017 21:59
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Werewhale posted:If there's a snap election, we will have had five governments in eleven years... Couple responses to this based on my also admittedly limited knowledge:
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Sep 20, 2017 04:54
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The fact that IP is still polling so well after all of this makes me turn the nihilist knob past the 11 it was already at to 14 cause gently caress this poo poo. Simply unbelievable.
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The people's party has grabbed a firm hold on the disabled and aged vote, which used to be all for Samfó. It's also getting the people who vote for every new party because FJÓRFLOKKURINNNNNN
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