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TheWizardOfTheOwls
Aug 23, 2010

Busy being worst girl

I Might Be Adam posted:

I didn't see this covered in the OP, but I was wondering what the best recommendation for a kick beater to achieve a particular sound would be.

I have a Ludwig Centennial, 24x20 kick and while I love the oversized kick for it's boom in a rock setting, I need to be able to get a different sound out of it for a recording project I've been asked to do. The music is more Americana/alt country-ish. The songwriter has shown me a lot of songs with a particular bass drum sound and it's more of a resonating low boom with less attack. During some recording tests, we were able to achieve the sound by wrapping some socks around my current beater but it's less than responsive for playing and I'm wondering what the best beater for that would be.

Anyone experienced with a variety of beaters out there? This is what I've found so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Vater-VBVB-Vi...rear end+drum+beater

Seems like it might do the trick. I'm not opposed to tuning the kick to help with that sound and I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them.

Probably a little late, what you want to do is pair fully unmuffled heads and use a the style beater you linked. I play a lot of hip-hop, and as such I have to get a similar sound, and in my experience I've found that using more "traditional" bass drum heads will yield the sound you're looking for. I'd suggest getting a clear ambassador (or an equivalent from your preferred brand) for your resonant head, and a clear emperor. The clear batter head will give you a little more attack, but using a coated head will kill off a lot of the extreme head vibrations that will make the fundamental pitch scheme of your bass drum ring out. You could also use a Pinstripe, or a CS, if you want to pitch lower, but those heads wont ring out for nearly as long as an emperor would. I also really wouldn't recommend using two ambassadors, since it will take your already widened fundamental pitch and widen it even more as well as generally shift it up (as a usual pairing of two single ply heads would). They're also kind of flimsy, and most pedals will kick through them if you don't have a patch (which will obviously dry up your kick faster than anything else) and if you want to be able to gig out with the sound you'll break the head sooner rather than later. As far as tuning goes, you'll probably want to tune with matched pitches, and somewhere in the mid-low to medium tension range. The higher you tune the heads the more fundamental will present in your sound, but it will obviously be pitched up higher. There's really no way to get around this trade off, even with unmuffled heads, so you're kinda stuck with it. Just try and find the point where you are getting the amount of ring you want and stop there, hopefully it wont be to high or to low. You should look around your local vintage drum shops for heads, as most retailers don't carry unmuffled heads for bass drum, but vintage shops usually do. It's also worth nothing that you'll probably want to mic this bass drum setup a little further away, as the lack of muffling on the heads should increase your volume by a fair amount. Hope this helps you in finding the sound you're looking for.

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