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I really need to practice my interview bullshitting skills. In the middle of July I applied for a graduate job with a big four accounting firm to start in September which required a certain level of a specific rare language, so it wasn't as if they were tripping over candidates for the job. I have excellent academics across the board, graduated from a global top five university, and can speak the rare language to the required level and more. Alas, in the telephone interview I failed to show that I had sufficient career motivation. No job for me and no-one to fill that position for them, I guess.
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Vomik posted:What language? Japanese 
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zmcnulty posted:Japanese isn't rare. You were probably competing with a handful of other bilingual candidates, also from top schools, many of whom have better/native Japanese. Even in London... especially in London. Vomik posted:Yeah I was going to say the same. I wouldn't take it so personally Teddles, because a big 4 is definitely going to get plenty of people who can speak Japanese. I'd only agree that Japanese isn't rare if we don't exclude the "Konnichiwa, watashi wa anime ga daisuki " selftaught  crowd. Of the Big Four, three recruit directly into Japanese departments via the graduate program, which starts hiring in August/September; as of right now, almost ten months after these positions opened, two of the three are still open - the ones which require actual Japanese ability, N3 and business-level fluency respectively. The one which doesn't require Japanese ability went only last week. So what with these positions which only hire one or two graduates at most being available nine months on, to start in September - and one of them requiring a low Japanese level that I think would actually be pretty useless in a business context - I don't think that it's fair to say that hordes of high-level Japanese speakers are beating their way to their doors. I'm not saying that I'd be the very best at the job, but I'd probably be above average, and certainly better than thin air, which is who they're currently on target to recruit. I only applied to two, the N3 and no-Japanese required one - business level Japanese is a bridge too far, I think. The no-Japanese one went while I was still in the preliminary testing phase, which is fair enough; if it's gone, it's gone. I failed the N3 one at telephone interview; again, I wouldn't mind, but being criticised for my career motivation by an organisation at which the mass exodus of graduates who've used and abused it to get their qualifications and then say "gently caress you bye" is practically an annual tradition stings a bit. I would have stayed, you silly geese. Xandu posted:Dd they specifically tell you that you failed to show sufficient career motivation or did you infer that when you didn't get the job? I got feedback, which was actually pretty good of them, but the unrealistic nature of what they were looking for really opened my eyes to just how much you need to embellish, exaggerate and, as the partner of a Big Four firm told me, make poo poo up to get in. Morton Salt Grrl fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Jul 30, 2013 |
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Jul 30, 2013 10:58
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Vomik posted:Now I don't know the particulars of this situation but I work at a big 4 (consulting side though) and just because a job is listed doesn't mean they didnt hire someone. At least in my area they are always looking to hire if you're qualified. Now, of course, you may be right and I'm not certain how I would convey career motivation myself in an interview. (I came in experienced not entry level so it's a different style) There were some questions about what I thought I would be doing for the first two years, why I wanted the position, etc. I thought I answered pretty well, I'd done my research and I legitimately thought the qualification I would get would be better than in other places, but apparently I didn't do as well as I thought.
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FAN OF NICKELBACK posted:Why did you say you wanted the position, and what your first two years would be like? as close to verbatim as possible, if you can. I wanted to use my language in the business world rather than the translation world, Tax was interesting to me, my first two years would be spent studying for the qualification and doing stuff like tax returns. I queried something I'd seen on their website about a general two-year schedule for graduates which didn't make sense, and was told it was because they'd updated it for 2014 intake. Democratic Pirate posted:Did you tell them you were going for the job because it would get you a better qualification? Because that paired with: Nah, I intended to stay - it's not like I can use Japanese at a small local firm, after all. By that quote I meant that I resented being criticised for my career motivation by an organisation which is clearly bollocks at judging it.
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