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WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

Like a lot of the internet today, I just listened to the episode where David Choe tells his story about the masseuse... and it was excruciating. It was like listening to a college freshman brag about a nonconsensual sexual encounter he had and being totally unaware of why his actions were wrong. Every other minutes he digs himself into another hole with another comment about her not wanting to do something and him doing it anyway.

And just so we know where I'm coming from, I understand the context of the show. This isn't my first listen. I subscribed to the first 6 episodes or so when it premiered before deciding it wasn't for me. And I've been aware of Choe even before he got notoriety for his Facebook haul because my stepdad is a longtime LA/SF street artist. So with all that being said, this was just a dude straight up admitting he raped someone.

Unless Choe really is just making this whole thing up, which is almost as bizarre... It does sound like he's making stuff up in the story, but what sounds fake to me is the ending. The woman asked him for his number after all of that? Asa rightfully called him out on that not making sense. Sounds to me like someone wanted to end the story on a slightly consensual note after being accused by Asa of rape.

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WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

The Experiment posted:

That whole story was BS. From the massage to the "oh you're so cool!" ending. All of it. He just made up a story he thought was cool, got called out on it, then back pedaled.

I don't buy that. I mentioned that he sounded like a college freshman because unfortunately I had to listen to multiple bros in college tell variations of that same story. It's classic example of how most rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim knew and not by some random stalker breaking into windows. In this case, it was a client she had previously worked on. If 95% of the stuff he says is fake, why does anybody listen to him? What do you get out of a guy who thinks rape stories are cool? I'm not one of those people who think rape should never be joked about, but even a rookie open mic comic knows you're supposed to have SOME jokes in your rape story. After Asa accused him of rape, why would Dave say that he had been sweating for the last 10 minutes if he was just bullshitting? He's sweating because he realized the difference between what he had done and what he had been telling himself to make it OK.

The absolute best case scenario in this situation is that David Choe is a 37 year old man who tells fictional tales about grabbing a sex worker's head against her will and shoving his cock into her mouth. And that doesn't add up IMO. He's not an imbecile like the chuckling guys in the background.

WerthersWay fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Apr 18, 2014

WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

bowser posted:

So did you write this article? If not your timing is impeccable...in that its like a month or two after the episode aired. And with this show that would be at least a month after they recorded the episode.


I would refer you to the very first sentence I wrote, "Like a lot of the internet today, I just listened to the episode where David Choe tells his story about the masseuse." Stop being so defensive; this guy is the host of a podcast you like, he's not your brother. We both know absolutely nothing is going to happen to Choe and that this will all be forgotten next week, so it ultimately doesn't matter. And even if something did happen legally, he has more than enough money to make it go away.

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Is Gawker going to run an article titled "Facebook Graffiti Artist hires escort, puts caviar in her butthole" too?

I didn't listen to that particular episode, but did the escort give him consent to do so? In his real/fake caviar butthole story, was the sex worker physically forced to perform an act after repeatedly saying no? If she gave consent, then there's no story for Gawker or Buzzfeed or Feminist Website X to write about. If she gave consent or that story is fake, then David Choe is only guilty of being hipster Tucker Max.

WerthersWay fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Apr 19, 2014

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