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Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Generally, renting the place with furnishing like a washer or a fridge for the increased rent, or having the place completely bare and the tenants supply their own poo poo (to break).. which makes more sense from the cash flow perspective?

I have some things that I could leave in a rental, or I could take them and sell them and get some money straight away. I guess it depends on the tenant, if they're decent (which is a result of the property you're renting) then it's a long term earner. If they're dumb kids then they'll break poo poo and quickly.

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Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Wow, in Australia you bring your own fridge and washer and dryer. The stove is pretty much part of the property, so that makes sense, but the movable white goods you supply yourself. I wouldn't really want to use someone else's fridge and considering for $300 if you keep an eye out you can pick up a great second hand one.. but yeah ok. I guess for the lower rents when you've got students trying to make tiny budgets work another 1500 for whitegoods can sink the whole ship.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
That's really cool and blows me away a bit.

Just for story, I'm in Bardonnecia, Italy at the moment on holiday. It's a small town in the Alps, I've rented an apartment here for 6 weeks. I've got another one in Sestriere which is close and I'll be renting that for around 4 months. In this current one, there is no washer and no dryer. There is nothing in the whole drat town, except for a single little washing room business run by a sweet old lady. This sweet old lady who smiles nicely and seems so lovely just charged me 22 loving Euro to do a load of wash.

That's 30 bucks, American. Yeah she washed it and dried it and folded it, but gently caress me backwards you cheeky little... I have no other option here, I'm looking at it now but it's probably cheaper to take my washing down to the train, get on the train and go to the next bigger town, do the washing in a coin-op laundry and ride the train back. If it works out even a little cheaper I'm loving doing it because screw you, you rip-off washer-woman.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Keetron posted:

Labor in Europe is expensive and coin ops are unusual as just about everyone has the machines themselves. The woman ripped you off also has to do with your inability to ask for a price before you had her do your laundry.

Quanto costa? How much does it cost? I can speak enough Italian that I'm not a stupid tourist, I just assumed it wasn't going to be something like $30. Come on, man, $30 for a load of wash is ridiculous. In Rome I paid 8 Euro and a dude did a load and folded it all for me. But yeah, there are coin-ops everywhere back in Australia, maybe your machine breaks or you've just arrived and can't afford a machine yet (I guess back to what we were saying that low budget rentals don't come with a washing machine usually).. so you can spend about 10 bucks in a coin-op. Bloody good commercial machines in there too, when I had to use one when my machine broke I was surprised how clean my clothes were.

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