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am I welcome to ask questions about meditation that I have from Sam Harris’ waking up course and other surrounding questions I’ve come across since
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# ¿ May 28, 2019 05:30 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 11:39 |
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The things I am getting my head around is vispassina, dzogchen, metta, and the general concept I suspect, that by literally spending more time in certain cognitive states, will make those states more “default”, like metta. what I am beginning to suspect that whole dzogchen can take you directly to the state one may ultimately desire, it’s other practices that mold consciousness so that dzogchen practices take you to a better place also i still struggle with the nature of no self. the concept of associating myself with my thoughts isn’t really familiar to me, so i don’t have to lose that, but I struggle to conceive that I am not the experiencer or the experience, but perhaps I just need to keep practicing. under the influence of psychedelics I find it quite easy to just be the experience, I can feel myself leave my body alone, and just be the experience.. and some experiences that I believe some would describe as ego loss, it’s not too difficult to “become” your experience, but nothing about that feels like i’ve let go of something precious like my ego. hmm either i’m still miles away from it or it’s already normal to me this is interesting
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# ¿ May 28, 2019 08:57 |
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Hey wow, thanks.. Thankyou for your extensive answer. Appreciate your time. I definitely see all of this in general as a very positive addition to my life and hopefully something that can really help steer me right. I’m quite depressed often and have a tendency to self medicate (often drinking) and this tends to lend itself to me not practicing, so obviously breaking that cycle by simply practicing more is going to be essential. Earlier this year I practiced more, my interest has been steady but practice has waned, and looking back I can see the difference. Having a personal outreach in this thread will hopefully help. Once again thankyou 😁
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# ¿ May 28, 2019 19:20 |
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i’ve jus started “the mind illuminated” and it looks good as gently caress
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2019 23:28 |
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I use the waking up and Sam Harris is doing the pointing out instruction from Dzogchen I think. Trying to point out the “intrinsic selflessness of consciousness”, but I really have trouble with it, because it feels no matter what I do that “the self” is there. On psychedelics I’ve experienced what I believe is ego-loss, so maybe I think I know what that feels like, or maybe that’s confusing me, but regardless that feels like a unique experience, rather than some insight into the way things really are. What if the self isn’t an illusion, it’s just something that doesn’t need to exist within experience. It was interesting when Sam Harris had rimpochi (sorry I butchered his name) on a talk and he spoke of many egos we have, and how to embrace and cultivate the selfless ones. But it’s selfless in action and intent, not so much “there is no self”. I suspect it’s just something I am yet to experience 🤷♂️ Also I think music is an interesting meditation object, especially pre-recorded music, because unlike most other things, you do know what’s coming next. I recently had an experience listening to music a lil bit drunk and stoned, and it felt like I knew every single part of the music utterly perfectly. I was familiar with the music but not listened hundreds of times, and it made me think of how consciousness has some internal buffering system to make it never seem like inputs and thoughts aren’t aligned time wise (ie when we touch something the visual aspect doesn’t appear in consciousness before the tactile aspect despite one being slower than the other) and made me think that consciousness, from a time point of view, that “now” probably isn’t this single split section, but somehow that “now” probably exists over a chunk of time, and that what I was experiencing was hearing a bit of music I was familiar with, and it was like the part of my mind that felt like it knew it perfectly was probably a moment or two after actually hearing it and that data coming “around the back” into another part of my mind which was a moment behind, so it was like I was experiencing the past (but just a very short fraction of a moment behind) as now, but because I already had the input it felt like I knew it perfectly, because I had literally just experienced it, so how could I not have known it well? A big ramble but the point about now probably lasting more than a nanosecond is interesting and I suspect the half drunk and high state “extended” that length of time that feels like “now”. I wonder if it can be extended further 🤔
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 19:40 |
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hmmm food for thought... thankyou for that post. I love all of this
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 07:20 |
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Tosk posted:Hi, I'm interested in Buddhism. Is there any good reference book for a historical overview of Buddhist tradition? I always find that kind of thing helps me contextualize myself to understand what I'm reading afterwards. I guess after that would be Mindfulness in Plain English? Yeah I’ve got that book. It’s good but it requires a level of meditation I can’t give right now. It’s very helpful at showing how our minds really work. It’s note along the lines of what I want meditation to be for me, rather than buddhism as such. poo poo I’m interested in discovering the non-dual experience
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2020 06:09 |
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I get most of my knowledge from Sam Harris, and I want to know why he’s so keen on non-duality, which I think is what he’s getting at with the dzogchen pointing out instructions. Like I see so much benefit from mindfulness meditation, I’m not sure what kind of benefit is derived from spending time in a non-dual state. Though I am super keen to experience it. I wonder if I’ve had glimpses but not sure
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2020 07:41 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 11:39 |
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glickeroo posted:Discard these words as one would a used band-aid. They are meant as only a temporary answer. We hope this helps one find the light within the Self where all answers are. Very interesting, thankyou. appreciate your time to share.
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