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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
You are likely familiar with the term "shounen", which effectively means "young boy" and is used to describe a demographic geared towards a young male audiences. One Piece, Naruto, etc. are some obvious examples. Seinen by contrast is a demographic more geared towards older men in the 18-30 year range. If it's a series with more violence, nudity, and/or mature themes that would seem out of place in a shounen series, there's a decent chance it's because it's seinen instead. Dramas or hard sci-fi would likely apply as well. Sometimes it can be hard to tell which demographic a given series falls under (Ah! My Goddess for example is seinen despite ostensibly being a standard shounen romantic comedy); the only way to know for sure is often to look at the magazine the work is being serialized within.


The original OP was pretty informative, so I'm going to more or less copy/paste that:

First we have some major figureheads to knock out here. We must differentiate between the New School and the Old School of Seinen as well.

The Old School of Seinen : Historic Tales with strong character development and character driven plot lines. Emerged directly influenced by the works of the great 49ers, adopting the themes present in the works of the earlier artist's and adapting them to more macho feeling stories. Known as the Gekiga school, the word means serious pictures, chosen to differentiate their works from traditional manga.

Takao Saito
The creator of Golgo 13 the most enduring of the Gekiga School's original works. Nonetheless a bit more formulaic and episodic in nature than most other mangaka's work.

Kazuo Koike
Pretty much the biggest guy when it comes to the old school of Seinen. He created the school. His two best known works are Lone Wolf and Cub and Crying Freeman.

Osamu Tezuka
Probably the most famous Mangaka in history, Tezuka branched into the Gekiga format later in his life and created some of it's most celebrated titles. MW involves a homosexual priest covering up his relationship with a Government Assasin, while Ode to Kirohito takes a realistic look at the life of a Doctor.

Masamune Shiro
Was quite influential in the technological side of Seinen manga, publishing Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed

Kentaro Miura
Miura didn't publish his masterpiece until 1992, but it served as a revival of the Old School of Seinen in terms of popularity. Berserk is still one of the most important pieces of modern Seinen Manga.

Nobuyuki Fukumoto
Explored the gambling side of Seinen with his seminal works Ten, Akagi and Kaiji

New School: The New School was equally influenced by the 49ers, in a different way. Instead of taking strong character development from the feminine themes and fitting them to macho themes it took the strong character develop and feminine themes to a male vantage point.

Rumiko Takahashi
Arguably the creator of the New School, Takahashi's Maison Ikkoku was published over a eight years, it was a painfully slow but endearing love story that would fit in the Shojo magazines that the 49ers loved. The only caveat was the story was told from a mail point of view, without the sparkled fantasy often seen in Shojo.

Mitsuru Adachi
Mitsuru major works have not been historically published in Seinen Magazines. But the influence, both by the new school on his works and by his works on later Seinen Mangaka can not be ignored. Miyuki, H2, Touch, and Cross Game all featured long romantic storylines developed by character interaction, often coupled with sports from a male point of view.

Naoki Urosawa
After Rumiko, the most important Mangaka in the new school. His works include Yasara, Master Keaton, Monster, 20th Century Boys, and Pluto.

Kaoru Mori
One of the modern leaders of the new school. Hand's down the single best artist working in Manga today. Also rumored to be quite beautiful. Her works include Emma and Otoyomegatari.

Takako Shimura
Took over the reins at enterbrain's Comic Beam following Koaru Mori's departure. Takako is the foremost LGBT mangaka in Japan. Best known works are Aoi Hana and Hourou Musuko

Inio Asano
Absurdist to realistic, Inio's scenery porn often belies the internal struggles her characters face. Currently working on Oyasumi Punpun. More well known stateside for Solanin.

Hitoshi Iwaaki
Well known for his crazy series Parasyte Hitoshi is currently working on historical tale Historie.

Makoto Yukimura
Praised for his relationship driven science fiction series Planetes he is currently working on award winning viking manga Vinland Saga.


Current Threads:
Berserk
Satoshi Mizukami
Foreign History Thread
Inio Asano
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
Teppu
Douman Seiman
Naoki Urasawa
Knights of Sidonia

Old Seinen Thread

Somebody fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jan 7, 2014

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Epoxy Bulletin
Sep 7, 2009

delikpate that thing!
Little typo: it's Kaoru Mori, not Koaru. And I don't know much about the publishing side of this stuff, but I'm pretty sure she still works with enterbrain/comic beam, just under a rebranded magazine (fellows changed to haruta a few months back)

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Is anyone else reading Yuureitou?



It's a period murder mystery (...in a sense), set in 1950s Japan. In 1952, an old woman was murdered, somewhat unusually, by the means of a clock tower; she was tied across the limbs of the clock face and eventually crushed to death when it struck midnight. The police suspect the woman's daughter, but when she goes missing the investigation grinds to a halt. Two years later, a feckless, unemployed mystery buff by the name of Amano Taichi and an odd man known only as Tetsuo team up to solve the case; not so much because they care about who did it or why, but because they want to get their hands on the treasure reputed to be hidden inside the clock tower.

It's a pretty great character piece and mystery story.

The problem I'm having with it, at the minute, is that it seems to be somewhat... unfocused. We've bounced from murder mystery to thriller to ethical calculus to transsexualism and body dysmorphia and... it's all good, all the little pieces, but I'm having trouble seeing how it's supposed to cohere. I have no idea what the story's trying to do or where it wants to go, and the original plot keeps getting further and further away.

Help?

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
EDIT: Wrong thread.

toanoradian fucked around with this message at 14:18 on May 14, 2013

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

toanoradian posted:

Since the thread linked in the OP discusses the anime,
It's for both, the manga is too slow to warrant a separate thread.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Yeah I don't know whether it would be better to keep it to that thread or here. That said, it's having a monthly series isn't a death spell for discussion (see: Claymore).

As for the chapter itself, that was pretty loving feel-good :kimchi: I'm glad it seemingly isn't wrapping up just yet, which I thought it might be doing a few chapters ago.

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
Oh boob. Sorry for that, I only read the OP of the MaoYuu thread. I'll switch to that thread.

In exchange for my failures, I want to recommend Under the Air, a collection of one-shots by Osamu Tezuka.


I was craving for a good one-shot collection after (I think) Nickelodeon ended and found this to be satisfying. It's nowhere as cute as that series, but each story had a unique premise and a nice development. It also had more pages per chapter, so plot progresses in a more natural way. My favourite chapter was the source of the image above, Chameleon.

toanoradian fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 14, 2013

coathat
May 21, 2007

That ones been kinda so so as far as Tezuka short stories goes. Clockwork Apple is much better. http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Clockwork-Apple

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
I'd like to recommend Music of Marie. It's really short(16 chapters), but also really good.

Zandracon
Oct 21, 2010
Looks like Nihei's Knights of Sidonia is getting an anime adaptation according to the newest Afternoon, I think?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Zandracon posted:

Looks like Nihei's Knights of Sidonia is getting an anime adaptation according to the newest Afternoon, I think?


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? :allears:

I'm a little apprehensive, given the Blame! OVAs, but I guess Sidonia might lend itself a little better to an anime than Blame! did.

MadHat
Mar 31, 2011

Autonomous Monster posted:

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? :allears:

I'm a little apprehensive, given the Blame! OVAs, but I guess Sidonia might lend itself a little better to an anime than Blame! did.

Maybe it will make more sense in Anime form? We may at least be able to tell characters apart better.

Ghost of Babyhead
Jun 28, 2008
Grimey Drawer
Holy poo poo

EDIT: I'm really interested in seeing how they handle the Gauna.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Whaaaaaaaaaaat that's great news. It's definitely the most..adaptable..of his comics. The first Blame OVA had zero money and the second CG one just really didn't do it for me at all so I'll be really interested in who they get to work on it.

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
Wait, Ratman ended? Oh, wait, the chapter's just titled "Conclusion".

Also, Ratman updated? :woop:

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Autonomous Monster posted:

Is anyone else reading Yuureitou?



It's a period murder mystery (...in a sense), set in 1950s Japan. In 1952, an old woman was murdered, somewhat unusually, by the means of a clock tower; she was tied across the limbs of the clock face and eventually crushed to death when it struck midnight. The police suspect the woman's daughter, but when she goes missing the investigation grinds to a halt. Two years later, a feckless, unemployed mystery buff by the name of Amano Taichi and an odd man known only as Tetsuo team up to solve the case; not so much because they care about who did it or why, but because they want to get their hands on the treasure reputed to be hidden inside the clock tower.

It's a pretty great character piece and mystery story.

The problem I'm having with it, at the minute, is that it seems to be somewhat... unfocused. We've bounced from murder mystery to thriller to ethical calculus to transsexualism and body dysmorphia and... it's all good, all the little pieces, but I'm having trouble seeing how it's supposed to cohere. I have no idea what the story's trying to do or where it wants to go, and the original plot keeps getting further and further away.

Help?


I knew I recognized the style; his other series is one I also find really interesting: Team Medical Dragon.



It's a lot like the manga version of House, great stuff.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Somebody just recommended this to me today, and I managed to catch up in a few hours.

Suicide Island


The basic idea behind the plot is that Japan rounds up all of its suicidal citizens and ships them off to a deserted island. Once these people wake up, some of them pick up where they left off and others decide to try this whole living thing. The end result is a survival story where characters aren't just struggling against their environment, but themselves as well. This is done by the guy who did Holyland, and I've enjoyed the 60 chapters that have been translated so far. The translation effort seems to have stalled in the past few months, but what's out is still an awesome read.

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Osamu Tezuka's collection of one-shots "The Crater" is now up on Kickstarter and already reached double its funding goal in one day.

The two-person outfit known as Kansai Club Publishing is all about licensing classic manga in handsome English editions and The Crater's Kickstarter video goes into more detail about their goals. They're looking at a print run of 2,000 hardcover copies, so get while the gettin's good!

If anyone is reluctant to bask in some of Tezuka's visuals ("eww it's all noodle-limbed Disney fanart") I will shove them into your eyeballs here instead.





DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
Hey! So have any of you ever seen The Mist or read the Stephen King novel it's based on? Well, if you enjoyed either, you'd really enjoy Hakaijuu, which is sort of the same "Alien creatures suddenly killing everybody" except in Tokyo. Some amazingly tense horror stuff-- beware, though, it's pretty :nws: with respect to violence. No sexual content, however, but it's really gory.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
I'm a huge sucker for monsters, but Hakaijuu just got really dumb. It started off fine, even great, but it really overdoes the humans are the real monsters!!! thing to the point it becomes farcical, and outside of that it's just a constant stream of side characters being introduced and then killed off for no reason. I really wanted to like it, and read seven drat volumes of it in the vain hope it'd get better, but it didn't. I'm worse off for having read it.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


If you want to see ridiculous faces and why you should never, ever, go to a Japanese hospital, check out Say Hello To Black Jack :



sunburnedcrow
Dec 17, 2012

Mo_Steel posted:

I knew I recognized the style; his other series is one I also find really interesting: Team Medical Dragon.

It's a lot like the manga version of House, great stuff.

Yea, team medical dragon is great, I have issues with the ending though

coathat
May 21, 2007

It's Cooking Papa time! http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Cooking-Papa/10-Simple-Hangover-Rice-Soup?id=164684

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Shinjobi posted:

Somebody just recommended this to me today, and I managed to catch up in a few hours.

Suicide Island


This was an excellent read, and 60 chapters was the perfect amount since it doesn't end somewhere awkward and leave an unresolved point in the story.

Law Cheetah
Mar 3, 2012

Getting caught up on this series. Whoever described it as painfully 80s Japan in a previous thread hit the nail on the head. I guess people would come home from working too hard to relax and read a manga about people working too hard

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Autonomous Monster posted:

Is anyone else reading Yuureitou?



It's a period murder mystery (...in a sense), set in 1950s Japan. In 1952, an old woman was murdered, somewhat unusually, by the means of a clock tower; she was tied across the limbs of the clock face and eventually crushed to death when it struck midnight. The police suspect the woman's daughter, but when she goes missing the investigation grinds to a halt. Two years later, a feckless, unemployed mystery buff by the name of Amano Taichi and an odd man known only as Tetsuo team up to solve the case; not so much because they care about who did it or why, but because they want to get their hands on the treasure reputed to be hidden inside the clock tower.

It's a pretty great character piece and mystery story.

The problem I'm having with it, at the minute, is that it seems to be somewhat... unfocused. We've bounced from murder mystery to thriller to ethical calculus to transsexualism and body dysmorphia and... it's all good, all the little pieces, but I'm having trouble seeing how it's supposed to cohere. I have no idea what the story's trying to do or where it wants to go, and the original plot keeps getting further and further away.

Help?


Yeah, I am liking this as well.

And I agree that it did jump around with some mini stories but each encounter did give them a clue so far. Also each one was very much about why people would kill or not kill someone and how they are judged for it by themselves, society and us I suppose.

They now seem to have returned to the showpiece location of the manga. The end of the last chapter also promises interesting things to come since it hints that the masked man will cut down the kid from the murder machine.


Jumping around with small vignettes wise I would mention the Voynich Hotel which pretty slice of life.

hosed up with some style wise would mention Dorohedoro.

I also want Soil to get finished at some stage.

Munin fucked around with this message at 21:29 on May 21, 2013

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Munin posted:

Jumping around with small vignettes wise I would mention the Voynich Hotel which pretty slice of life.

Voynich Hotel is awesome enough that we have a thread devoted entirely to works by the author - mostly it and Nickelodeon.

Ra-amun
Feb 25, 2011
Volume 12 of Real's been translated if you haven't been keeping up with it lately. As always, it's been a long wait but it's great. It's by Inoue Takehiko, who's done Vagabond and Slam Dunk.

Here's the short summary if you haven't heard of it before:

quote:

The story revolves around three teenagers: Nomiya Tomomi, a high school dropout; Togawa Kiyoharu, an ex-sprinter who now plays wheelchair basketball; and Takahashi Hisanobu, a popular leader of the high school's basketball team who now finds himself a paraplegic after an accident.
Real features a cast of characters who find themselves being marginalized by society, but are all united by one common feature: a desire to play basketball, with no place to play it in. Nomiya, being a high school dropout, has no future in his life. Togawa, being a difficult personality, finds himself constantly feuding with his own teammates. Takahashi, once a popular team leader, now finds himself being unable to move from the chest down.
Real also deals with the reality of physical disabilities, and the psychological inferiority that the characters struggle against. The characters break through their own psychological barriers bit by bit.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I recently read the latest Dark Horse volume (Blizzard) of Blade of the Immortal. I still love that series, even if the human experimentation arc went on too long. Magatsu is my favorite character so his team-ups with Manji are always fun. Maybe this time Shira will stay dead.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

Voynich Hotel is awesome enough that we have a thread devoted entirely to works by the author - mostly it and Nickelodeon.

Heh, I didn't know that. I originally picked it up from the last Seinen thread. I really should look around the forum a bit more.

Nate RFB posted:

I recently read the latest Dark Horse volume (Blizzard) of Blade of the Immortal. I still love that series, even if the human experimentation arc went on too long. Magatsu is my favorite character so his team-ups with Manji are always fun. Maybe this time Shira will stay dead.

I used to read and like that one a lot but I haven't caught up with it in ages. Can't remember why it dropped off my reading list now.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It actually just finished up for good last December :( I was pretty surprised to learn BotI was almost 20 years old. I think Dark Horse is about 4 volumes behind.

Professor Irony
Aug 9, 2005

Oh Professor, you'll bury us all!

Shinjobi posted:

Suicide Island

Just chiming in to say thanks for mentioning this. Haven't finished the 60 chapters yet, but I've greatly enjoyed it so far. Took me a while to get used to the art (struck me that it looks a bit like Leiji Matsumoto's work, now cannot unsee Tetsuro), but the story's really compelling - it's like Lost before that went to poo poo.

Epoxy Bulletin
Sep 7, 2009

delikpate that thing!
I think our Panty and Stocking thread hit the archives, so I'll stick this here: A christmas special(mediafire link) from the Manga Strip series (previous chapters are up on mangahere)

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

AnonSpore posted:

I'm a huge sucker for monsters, but Hakaijuu just got really dumb. It started off fine, even great, but it really overdoes the humans are the real monsters!!! thing to the point it becomes farcical, and outside of that it's just a constant stream of side characters being introduced and then killed off for no reason. I really wanted to like it, and read seven drat volumes of it in the vain hope it'd get better, but it didn't. I'm worse off for having read it.

I don't know that I agree with this. First off it's horror so you kind of have to expect people to die a lot (although maybe Gantz has permanently numbed me to character death). And I really only remember one "humans are the real monsters" arc. Unless you mean the government being jerks in which case they have pretty good reasons. Which is not to say that it doesn't get ridiculous with some of the countermeasures they use in some of the later volumes.

Also the monster designs are really excellent.

coathat
May 21, 2007

Himizu has been getting updated lately and that's a very good thing. http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Himizu

It's by the guy who did Boku to Issho so the faces and reactions are tops. Himizu is a pretty big departure from his comedies in terms of story but its still great.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

coathat posted:

Himizu has been getting updated lately and that's a very good thing. http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Himizu

It's by the guy who did Boku to Issho so the faces and reactions are tops. Himizu is a pretty big departure from his comedies in terms of story but its still great.

Thanks for this. I remember reading it a while ago, but it never updated so it completely dropped off my radar. poo poo is rad.

coathat
May 21, 2007

Nobunaga's Chef is so good. It might be the best cooking manga that isn't Cooking Papa. http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Nobunaga-no-Chef/Vol-004-Ch-030--Kaede-and-Nobunaga?id=166795

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
So I was just browsing for some raw manga and come across the raw versions of Cooking Papa. Can you guess what is the latest volume of that manga?


124 goddamn volumes :psyduck: It's actually the fourth-longest running manga series. I thought this was like an old manga 10-20 volumes long when I first found it, but I never thought it could ever be this long.

Also, there's a japanese blog that tries to reproduce the recipes given in the manga. It had plenty of pictures, if you like that sort of thing.

toanoradian fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jun 10, 2013

coathat
May 21, 2007

There's a new Sahara Mizu manga being translated http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Itsuya-san

I'm really liking it so far. I'd say its a little more light hearted than My Girl and Tetsugaku Letra. The art is pretty standard for her which is a good thing.

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Siliziumleben
Dec 4, 2003

The scientists' findings were astounding! They discovered that the powers of the Metroid might be harnessed for the good of civilization!

toanoradian posted:

So I was just browsing for some raw manga and come across the raw versions of Cooking Papa. Can you guess what is the latest volume of that manga?


124 goddamn volumes :psyduck: It's actually the fourth-longest running manga series. I thought this was like an old manga 10-20 volumes long when I first found it, but I never thought it could ever be this long.

Also, there's a japanese blog that tries to reproduce the recipes given in the manga. It had plenty of pictures, if you like that sort of thing.

Do Papa's coworkers ever find out it's not his wife doing all the delicious cooking?

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