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I really like the romcom side of Sidonia, and that last page it sure seems like Tanikaze kissed Izana. The inter-gender thing makes it a little understandable that they're slow and awkward as hell. Izana isn't entirely comfortable with being a girl. I feel like I've forgotten some stuff though. Wasn't there a tiny person? Does no one miss that council of elders that got offed by... was it Samari? Is Samari the captain? And I don't get what Kunato was up to leaving the gauna alone. cooldude2.0 fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Oct 9, 2013 05:16
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cooldude2.0 posted:I feel like I've forgotten some stuff though. Wasn't there a tiny person? Does no one miss that council of elders that got offed by... was it Samari? Is Samari the captain? The tiny person took over Kunato's maid's body, just like Ochiai took over Kunato.
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Oct 9, 2013 07:13
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cooldude2.0 posted:I really like the romcom side of Sidonia, At this point I barely even care about the original storyline. I want Nihei to just go ahead and do a transhuman slice of life series.
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Oct 9, 2013 07:22
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I just realised why I like Izana and the others, as well as it just being nice to see intersexed characters who aren't just played for cheap laughs (hi Gargantia): It all goes back to Ochiai and the bottleneck; when the human race has been millimetres away from extinction you're going to put in safeguards to make sure you never come that close again. Clone-groups so that multiple copies of your kids can die and the genes survive, fluid genders that don't have to worry about being able to have kids no matter who they end up with. It makes great characters and also males total logical sense.
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Oct 9, 2013 15:00
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Anatharon posted:I got around to finishing Akumetsu. Jesus. That was so good, I can't believe it. I wound up binging the whole thing over the last few days, made for great work-readin'. It pretty much never slowed down and was incredibly brutal the entire time with a tinge of melancholy most of the way through it. My biggest criticism was the introduction of multiple characters, including the girl in the very first chapter, who show up in maybe half a dozen chapters each throughout the entire 162 chapter run. I had got somewhat of a Qualia the Purple vibe from parts of it, though political stuff rather than quantum physics stuff(not to mention Akumetsu himself). I don't know if I liked the ending, it really felt like one of those forced-bittersweet endings for the sake of it and also pretty goddamn cheesy but maybe that's just my feeling immediately after finishing it. The last twenty or so chapters were balls-to-the-wall intense. My favorite parts were probably the Akumetsu rock band, how much of an obvious Countach fanboy the author is, and the flashback story. That one was surprisingly well-handled for what it was. Also made the return to the present way more jaw-dropping. That's a must-read series and yet another one that I can't believe has never been licensed. While it deals with a lot of Japanese politics and mindsets, it handles them in such a way that even the scanlations were able to easily convey what was going on.
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Oct 10, 2013 11:49
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Captain Invictus posted:Jesus. That was so good, I can't believe it. I wound up binging the whole thing over the last few days, made for great work-readin'. It pretty much never slowed down and was incredibly brutal the entire time with a tinge of melancholy most of the way through it. My biggest criticism was the introduction of multiple characters, including the girl in the very first chapter, who show up in maybe half a dozen chapters each throughout the entire 162 chapter run. Never try reading Wolf Guy, then. It is so incredibly lovely that it makes Akumetsu look worse by retrospect.
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Oct 10, 2013 15:09
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Wolf Guy starts out alright and then winds up in loving rape wonderland. I don't mean 'the rape is badly handled' I mean it nearly turns into a horrible porn manga with how much it shows and how often it shows it.
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Oct 10, 2013 15:46
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it is really bad Also on the subject of from-good-to-bad I only found out today that the guy who did Me and the Devil Blues is now doing Prison School. That is a shame.
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This is what I thought of Prison School after someone linked it in the Convince With One Panel thread.quote:This might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read. But I feel that if he is bitter about Devil Blues getting canned, then this makes a lot more sense. A character with such insanely exaggerated assets being reduced to, literally, talking tits and pussy(most of the VP's dialogue balloons point towards one of these two things) and is absolutely never in a scene without some form of absurd fanservice seems extremely cynical to me, let alone the rest of it. It's also entertaining to read insane MRA posts about the series. Some dudes are taking it COMPLETELY seriously, like one guy who's like 40 and being all "I'd murder these sluts goddamn why don't these idiots kill these stupid bitches already, fuckin sluts"
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Endorph posted:Wolf Guy starts out alright and then winds up in loving rape wonderland. I don't mean 'the rape is badly handled' I mean it nearly turns into a horrible porn manga with how much it shows and how often it shows it. Yeah it was pretty awful but it makes sense in a weird sort of way once you learn it's a remake of an actual literal BDSM/rape comic.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:38
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ARACHNOTRON posted:Yeah it was pretty awful but it makes sense in a weird sort of way once you learn it's a remake of an actual literal BDSM/rape comic. The mystery then becomes "why did anyone want to remake it."
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Oct 10, 2013 23:40
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a mystery I don't want to solve, personally
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Hey, I finally got myself a tablet big enough to read manga on and I'd love some recommendations. Here's what I've read already: Loved: Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō Master Keaton 20th Century boys Planetes Liked: I am a Hero A bunch of Junji Ito stuff Solanin GTO The one where the lad has a hideous face (Angel something?) Pluto Enjoyed in parts, but not crazy about : Flowers of Evil Shamo Things I'm thinking of reading: Vinland Saga by the Planetes guy. Chihayafuru Saint Young Men I tend to prefer fairly grounded stuff with surreal elements rather than outright fantasy or s/f. Chas McGill fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 14:42
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Did you ever give Monster and/or Pluto a try?
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Oct 11, 2013 14:48
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Oh yeah! I knew I'd missed something. I liked Pluto a lot, but I haven't read Monster because I'm told the anime is basically a frame for frame copy of the manga.
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Oct 11, 2013 14:49
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You should read Devilman.
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Oct 11, 2013 14:52
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Read anything by Taiyou Matsumoto as he is the best. My favorites personal are Ping Pong and Sunny but he's never made a bad manga so just pick whatever you're in the mood for.
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Oct 11, 2013 14:54
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Try some of these: 7 Seeds Heat Jin Jiraishin RAINBOW Zipang
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Oct 11, 2013 14:56
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jonjonaug posted:You should read Devilman. Flergatron 3000 posted:Try some of these: coathat posted:Read anything by Taiyou Matsumoto as he is the best. My favorites personal are Ping Pong and Sunny but he's never made a bad manga so just pick whatever you're in the mood for. On that subject - how does the Yawara manga compare to the anime? I haven't read or seen either.
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Oct 11, 2013 15:00
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IF you haven't read lucifer and the biscuit hammer yet, you might want to give that a try. Aside from that, some of my favourites may have appeal: Cooking Papa Bambino Nobunaga no Chef This is Black Jack Team Medical Dragon Black Jack I like cooking and medicine 
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Oct 11, 2013 15:17
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Oh man, so do I. I love media about cooking/cafes/restaurants and it's pretty under represented (or crap) in anime*. I'm reading Cooking Papa now on my tea break at work and I'm so hungry. Haha, I love how pissed off he is at work in the first issue and then he just transforms when he's home and able to cook for his wee man. *Bartender was rad, though.
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Chas McGill posted:Thanks, added everything to my list. Is RAINBOW the same as the anime? Is it worth reading if I've watched that? I didn't even know there was an anime! The manga is still being updated so I guess it goes past the anime a fair bit.
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Oct 11, 2013 15:43
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Chas McGill posted:
I realise that what I'm recommending is outright fantasy but Shin Angyo Onshi is very good and worth a read. Akira too if you've only seen the film.
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Scott Bakula posted:I realise that what I'm recommending is outright fantasy but Shin Angyo Onshi is very good and worth a read. Akira too if you've only seen the film.
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Chas McGill posted:Hey, I finally got myself a tablet big enough to read manga on and I'd love some recommendations. Here's what I've read already: If you like history try Bokko, Historie, Shigurui, Vagabond, Otoyomegatari/A Bride's Story, and The Ravages of Time. If you like manga about fighting in various degrees, try Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru (warning, this is 50 volumes long and I have no idea how far along translations are), Holyland, TOUGH, All-Rounder Meguru, and Teppuu. I dunno if this has been translated into English at all, but Yamikin Ushijima-kun/Ushijima the Loan Shark is also a really good one so try looking that one up. Kiseijuu/Parasyte is good, by the guy who's doing Historie. BOYS ON THE RUN is also a must read in my opinion, by the guy who's doing I Am a Hero. Try Samura Hiroaki's stuff, especially Blade of the Immortal. That's about all I can think of off the top of my head that hasn't been recommended yet.  Also I'm seconding all of Nine of Eight's recommendations because he has good taste, cooking and medicine are awesome.Ooh, and try Yonensei for a short (one volume) story about a young couple, because I have a massive soft spot for Kio Shimoku's works. AnonSpore fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Does Akumetsu ever get past: I'M SUDDENLY IN YOUR BATHROOM RIGHT NOW, PRESIDENT OBAMA YOU WON'T SPEAK TO ME? WELL LOOK AT THIS TAPE OF YOU KILLING TEN ORPHANS HOW DID I GET THAT? I HAD A SECRET CAMERA FILMING YOU IN YOUR UNDERGROUND BUNKER, THAT'S HOW, NOW LISTEN TO ME LECTURE YOU ON POLITICS! Are those really badass moments? They don't feel like it to me, everything's always just so convenient and already in place without any demonstration of struggle or planning. I'm trying to trudge through it but it's honestly feeling pretty tedious and not-badass to me, and the political proselytizing makes me sort of uneasy. Like how can those be crowning moments of badass when he's always got access to where he needs to be and always has that special edge he needs to blow the enemy's mind. I know that's a common thing in manga, but it's somehow never felt as hollow and unexciting as with Akumetsu. It's still really repetitive where I am in the manga. I'm not even sure it's better than Wolf Guy. Like, it's definitely better in the sense that it's missing all the GIANT TITS and RAPE RAPE stuff, but other than that when it just comes to the writing and characters it feels about the same so far. I feel like I enjoyed the early Smugwolf moments more than Akumetsu just happening to be able to get wherever he needs to be and get whatever edge he needs to have so we have like a bunch more pages of old guys with shocked faces as he crashes out of the broom closet in their penthouse suite or whatever. It feels like Sakamoto desu ga? except it takes itself seriously and isn't entertaining or funny. New chapter of that, by the way. http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Sakamoto-desu-ga/Vol-002-Ch-006-Read-Online?id=176801 Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Chas McGill posted:I tend to prefer fairly grounded stuff with surreal elements rather than outright fantasy or s/f. If you liked 20th Century Boys and Pluto, you should definitely check out Billy Bat, Urasawa's latest series. It's got the same sort of mystery vibe going on, but this time involving cartoon bats that might actually be ancient demons and TIME TRAVEL.
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There's a new series by the guy who did RRR. http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/montage-watanabe-jun-r7478 Pretty good so far.
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AnonSpore posted:The mystery then becomes "why did anyone want to remake it." That is why it can make Akumetsu seem retroactively worse if you read it. That they chose to remake an obscure comic about torture and rape says a lot about the writer and artist, which in turn says a lot about the events in Akumetsu.
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Oct 11, 2013 21:37
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Add one more to the cooking list: Addicted to curry Also, read Kingdom if you like history. It's about china before the unification by Qin.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Does Akumetsu ever get past: What chapter are you on? It starts to get into some other things later on, and also starts to question if Akumetsu's actions will actually have any notable effect. Kind of a bummer if the author is really such a hosed up individual though.
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Oct 11, 2013 23:06
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Look Akumetsu has that one dude who is just WAY TOO INTO roads. Manga owns.
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Thanks for all the recommendations, everyone. I managed to read all of the translated Cooking Papa stuff because I foolishly assumed that someone would've translated every volume since it's so old. A mere 2 volumes was never going to satisfy my hunger for Cooking Papa's exploits. edit: Reading Bambino now. Looks like there's a fuckload of translated chapters, so it should last me a while. Chas McGill fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Oct 12, 2013 |
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Cooking Papa is old as hell but it's also still running. You know what that means? 124 volumes and ongoing. gently caress yeah. Bambino is fully translated but it has an untranslated continuation. It's possible to just enjoy it as it stands, though.
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I agree for the most part. I think that one of the things that should've been done is either focus on Shiina more or just not have her in it at all. I expected her to be there as a sort of barometer of how the public was affected by it but she kinda slid away. The ending felt way too forced, yeah. Generally I don't like sad endings, but I really don't think that it fit the tone of the series. I was wondering if I missed the page that had "And now for a very special epsiode of Akumetsu". Maybe I'm just being bitter.
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Dickeye posted:Look Akumetsu has that one dude who is just WAY TOO INTO roads. Manga owns. It's also amusing that Akumetsu absolutely does not give a single gently caress for about 98% of the entire series. There's only a few instances where he's not just carefree or a grinning happy-go-lucky idiot(outside of all his plentiful murder scenarios) and really, the extent he goes so that nobody except his target dies gets pretty convoluted and "how will he do it next". The TV studio one was probably the best example of that. Anatharon posted:The ending felt way too forced, yeah. Generally I don't like sad endings, but I really don't think that it fit the tone of the series. I was wondering if I missed the page that had "And now for a very special epsiode of Akumetsu". Nah, the ending really was trying too hard and honestly, because there was no development at all between Shou and Shiina, she might as well have just been a nameless background whore in the first couple chapters and never showed up again for all the development she got throughout the 162 chapters. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Oct 12, 2013 |
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Anatharon posted:I got around to finishing Akumetsu.
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Relin posted:If you liked Akumetsu you'll love Wolf Guy, same author artist team Literally on the same page people are saying not to read Wolf Guy because it is so terrible it retroactively harms enjoyment of Akumetsu. Come on, Relin.
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If Wolf Guy had just been about the adventures of a Smugwolf fighting off other werebeasts it would've been a really cool series but noooooo.
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