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Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
OK, Team Medical Dragon is totally rad. I read the first volume last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. I have no idea how accurate it is in regard to the Japanese medical system, but it's good fun either way.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Chas McGill posted:

OK, Team Medical Dragon is totally rad. I read the first volume last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. I have no idea how accurate it is in regard to the Japanese medical system, but it's good fun either way.

Some of the author's notes go into a lot more detail but it seems to be highly accurate. There's a line about how a US medical surgery intern has about 10x more operational experience then most Japanese residents/attending doctors that shocked me, but after further reading it makes sense because a single medical mistake in Japan is enough to end an entire career. And more senior doctors who make mistakes will often force a subordinate to take blame and quit in shame.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Chas McGill posted:

OK, Team Medical Dragon is totally rad. I read the first volume last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. I have no idea how accurate it is in regard to the Japanese medical system, but it's good fun either way.

There's also a live action drama of Team Medical Dragon that i remember being pretty entertaining, so you might want to check that out.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Chas McGill posted:

OK, Team Medical Dragon is totally rad. I read the first volume last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. I have no idea how accurate it is in regard to the Japanese medical system, but it's good fun either way.
If I understand correctly one of authors died partway through the series, and there does seem to be less of a focus on the specifics of medical techniques and the structure of medical practice in Japan as time goes on.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Japanese medicine seems to be really hosed up with the sheer volume of manga about it. Team Medical Dragon and Say Hello to Mr. Blackjack (warning: miserably depressing) being the better ones I remember.

There's a bunch of others, including some Doogie Howser type one which I can't remember the name of with a young doctor who does pediatrics but hospitals hate pediatrics in Japan I guess because they're money losers. I think he ironically has the weirdo flipped-heart disease that is fixed by the big procedure Team Medical Dragon was made for. Dunno if that's an homage or not.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Nov 14, 2013

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
I think it's worth noting ahead of time that TMD is not entirely realistic, and makes concessions to fiction and manga tropes in particular in the interest of telling the story. You might wanna keep that in mind when the manga starts touting the Batista surgery as the be-all end-all of heart surgeries.

(It's still a good manga though)

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Yeah, I get the impression that it does include truths about the set-up, but obviously exaggerates things because it's a comic. I love the art and the patient-by-patient plotting makes for super compulsive reading.

I remember Tenma in Monster having almost the exact same problems with hospital administration as what's shown in TMD, despite him being in Germany.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Yeah, the medical accuracy isn't THAT great. He's about dead on with the anesthesiologist being the moneymaker in the operating room however.

Reason why is because if someone's going to end up killing you on the table by accident it's probably going to be the anesthesiologist. The difference between unconscious and dead is pretty disturbingly loving thin as far as anesthesia goes.

I had tachycardia as a result of a reaction to anesthesia after (thank god not during) an operation and got to experience the joy of being defibbed while awake. Just FYI it loving hurts.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Fabricated posted:

Reason why is because if someone's going to end up killing you on the table by accident it's probably going to be the anesthesiologist. The difference between unconscious and dead is pretty disturbingly loving thin as far as anesthesia goes.

And this is a big issue with geriatrics having medical problems. Just putting them under for surgery is a massive gamble.

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator

Fabricated posted:

There's a bunch of others, including some Doogie Howser type one which I can't remember the name of with a young doctor who does pediatrics but hospitals hate pediatrics in Japan I guess because they're money losers. I think he ironically has the weirdo flipped-heart disease that is fixed by the big procedure Team Medical Dragon was made for.

That was The Best Skilled Surgeon, made by the same author who made Yakitate Japan.

A particular Doctor manga I liked is Godhand Teru, if only because the mood is the exact opposite of Team Medical Dragon. There the main character is similarly super-skilled (he has had no dead patients), but the hospital he's in is filled with bright, cheerful specialists who all have good rapport with patients. Only after like 30 volumes does the main character moves to a horribly managed profit-targeting hospital with horrible residents. He of course then proceeds to wow the non-resident hospital staff with his smile and optimism. A bit unrealistic, but quite a good introduction to all the specialists a hospital may need.

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.
As far as doctor manga go there's also Jin which is about a modern day doctor getting transported back into the Bakumatsu becoming a doctor there but with his knowledge of modern medicine.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

pentyne posted:

Some of the author's notes go into a lot more detail but it seems to be highly accurate. There's a line about how a US medical surgery intern has about 10x more operational experience then most Japanese residents/attending doctors that shocked me, but after further reading it makes sense because a single medical mistake in Japan is enough to end an entire career. And more senior doctors who make mistakes will often force a subordinate to take blame and quit in shame.

Guess that's why in Trauma Center, messing up one case was a game over.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
I'm on chapter 8 of Hoshi no Samidare and it is aggravating how every single character in this manga would be a much, much better MC than Yuuhi. Thankfully they've introduced an awesome character (Shinonome) this chapter, and he is infinitely more entertaining than the insufferable aspie Yuuhi. I love how Samidare's sister just unloads on him every single time she sees him. She knows how awful he is.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
He gets better. A lot better. Trust me.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'd actually say Yuuhi's negativity makes him a lot more interesting than the type of heroic characters you'd expect to find in stories like Biscuit Hammer, but just the same his character arc over the course of the series is outstanding.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
Negativity is not the the problem with that character. He's incredibly stupid, delusional and creepy as gently caress yet we're supposed to sympathize with him. It's cringe worthy how hard the author tries to portray him as "dark" and "twisted" because all he comes off looking like is an edgy aspie with gdaddy issues.

That said, I am enjoying the manga a lot more now that side characters are getting so much panel time.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Suben posted:

As far as doctor manga go there's also Jin which is about a modern day doctor getting transported back into the Bakumatsu becoming a doctor there but with his knowledge of modern medicine.

I love this series, I just wish someone would pick it up again. Apparently the series is completed at 20 volumes, but only 5 have been translated and the last one was around July. :(

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

Scent of Worf posted:

Negativity is not the the problem with that character. He's incredibly stupid, delusional and creepy as gently caress yet we're supposed to sympathize with him. It's cringe worthy how hard the author tries to portray him as "dark" and "twisted" because all he comes off looking like is an edgy aspie with gdaddy issues.

That said, I am enjoying the manga a lot more now that side characters are getting so much panel time.
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to view him as a weirdo with grandfather issues because that's what he is. He's trying to hide it and failing completely.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Scent of Worf posted:

Negativity is not the the problem with that character. He's incredibly stupid, delusional and creepy as gently caress yet we're supposed to sympathize with him. It's cringe worthy how hard the author tries to portray him as "dark" and "twisted" because all he comes off looking like is an edgy aspie with gdaddy issues.
I guess I don't see how your first description and the last contradict themselves. Though he's hardly stupid, at least.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Elysiume posted:

I'm pretty sure you're supposed to view him as a weirdo with grandfather issues because that's what he is. He's trying to hide it and failing completely.
I mean that's what I'm hoping it is and that he grows as a character, but I've read enough manga/watched enough anime to know that there are countless writers out there who play this type of character completely straight and do expect the reader to feel sympathetic towards them.

Nate RFB posted:

I guess I don't see how your first description and the last contradict themselves. Though he's hardly stupid, at least.

I guess what I meant is that negativity in of itself is not a problem, the way the author portrays/writes that negativity is why it's awful. Unless you're saying you do find it interesting when he starts talking about killing people he just met because they might interfere with his princess...? I certainly hope not. He goes from boring loser to cold blooded killer in no time at all and he comes off as a huge tool. The author probably thinks he's being cool as gently caress. And it probably does to teenagers who read this manga. Someone who, in a manner of minutes, hops on board to destroy Earth is pretty loving stupid I'd say. It was hilarious how he started acting like a Knight in 2 panels flat. But then again Samidare's entire reason for wanting to destroy earth is incredibly stupid so maybe I was expecting too much out of the writing.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The impression I got was that it was always true nature/personality (sort of), but he would have had no way to actually act out his nihilism because just because one has an awful personality doesn't mean he/she will go out and hurt people. But then he gets his powers and a "cause" that he can actually get behind, so he agrees immediately. For me at least, this dynamic of having "bad" characters as the leads and deceiving everyone else is the main initial hook for the story and makes it more unique for it. I don't think it's Mizukami trying to make them look cool so much as to surprise the viewers (and other characters) that these are our so-called heroes.

But that said, the whole bloody thing is about character development so you should definitely see how it all plays out before you judge them entirely. It's certainly not a long story so it won't take you too long. By the way, don't feel afraid of posting about this stuff in the Satoshi Mizukami Thread either.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
edit: ffffffff

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 18, 2013

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Nate RFB posted:

The impression I got was that it was always true nature/personality (sort of), but he would have had no way to actually act out his nihilism because just because one has an awful personality doesn't mean he/she will go out and hurt people.

Guy has read up to chapter 8, so I'll just say thinking he's nihilistic already misses the point. Yeah Yuuhi in the beginning is a bit of a downer, but even by that point he's saved the life of the grandfather that horrifically abused him for a decade. So he's dark, why wouldn't he be? His life is poo poo, those chains of his aren't a metaphor. He was tied down in chains multiple times a day while his grandfather screamed how worthless humanity was at him. For a decade. After his mom left him. After his dad was brutally murdered, by his own partner. Adding to that his childhood dream was to be a detective like his dad, he basically had every single possible reason to hate the world thrown at him at once. And he still saves his grandfather.

He talks a big game, but he's not even close to being the most nihilistic of the knights. Or character in the manga. As is fitting, as the entire point of the manga is learning to deal with loss and despair. It's not that he believes in nothing, it's that he desperately wants to believe in something and the world hasn't given him a single reason to do so....until Samidare. The fact that he believes in a person that wants to destroy the world doesn't change it's an incredibly positive step in his life to care about another human being. It just *sounds* worse than it is because they are, you know...trying to murder the world. Life can be funny like that.

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~
EDIT: decided the Satoshi Mizukami thread is a better place

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Nov 18, 2013

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
Holy poo poo. I'd been holding off on reading Boys on the Run because the premise was sort of eh(Wageslave to boxer, whoop). The first 20 chapters. drat. poo poo is intense.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
The boxing thing ought to be a spoiler since it doesn't even happen for a pretty drat long time.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Two new Koe no Kotachi chapters are out. If you were holding off because it's a pretty huge downer early on, I suggest giving it a try now. Seems to be going in a much better direction now.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

So. Kimi no Knife is fully scanned. And the ending was... okay?

The actual climax I have no problem with, though admittedly it's been so long since I started reading this I couldn't tell you if it's a good capstone to what's come before.

The denouement, though, that I have a problem with. It's too fast; far too fast. It moves at roughly ten hundred thousand miles per second, and the events it covers really need about two or even three times as much space to do them justice. It lacks weight, emotionally.

Still, everything up to that is pure gold, and I'm not generally the sort of person who thinks that a poo poo ending completely devalues everything that's gone before. A-?

Professor Irony
Aug 9, 2005

Oh Professor, you'll bury us all!
Anyone else remember Parasyte? Not the most original horror/sf offering, but decently written and boasted some great creature design work. Apparently, it is now getting an anime series.

I kind of wonder why they've decided to dig it up now, all of a sudden, but I won't complain.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

Professor Irony posted:

Anyone else remember Parasyte? Not the most original horror/sf offering, but decently written and boasted some great creature design work. Apparently, it is now getting an anime series.

I kind of wonder why they've decided to dig it up now, all of a sudden, but I won't complain.
Sweeeet. I can't wait to see the wee man animated.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Professor Irony posted:

Anyone else remember Parasyte? Not the most original horror/sf offering, but decently written and boasted some great creature design work. Apparently, it is now getting an anime series.

I kind of wonder why they've decided to dig it up now, all of a sudden, but I won't complain.

Holy poo poo yes :stare:

This has been one of my dream shows since middle school when I read Parasyte for the first time. Does anyone know what studio is doing it?

(please be ufotable please be ufotable)

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Professor Irony posted:

Anyone else remember Parasyte? Not the most original horror/sf offering, but decently written and boasted some great creature design work. Apparently, it is now getting an anime series.

I kind of wonder why they've decided to dig it up now, all of a sudden, but I won't complain.

Hopefully they can give it a better ending than the manga got.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

RatHat posted:

Hopefully they can give it a better ending than the manga got.
I read most of Parasyte in Barnes and Noble, so I sort of skimmed. In the end, his parasite basically goes dormant, and the idea is that it probably will just be a normal hand for the rest of his life?

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Dunno, I can't really remember. I just remember thinking that it was really abrupt and didn't resolve much.

Kleptobot
Nov 6, 2009
Another chapter of the literal Tsundere girl as she tries to deal with school again. Slightly less serious than the first chapter but still pretty hosed up.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
I know I read Parasyte, but it was so long ago I don't remember a single thing about it. Kinda wondering if I should do a re-read sometime or just watch the anime with a little vague familiarity but less baggage from being refreshed on the source material.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

Professor Irony posted:

Anyone else remember Parasyte? Not the most original horror/sf offering, but decently written and boasted some great creature design work. Apparently, it is now getting an anime series.

I kind of wonder why they've decided to dig it up now, all of a sudden, but I won't complain.
After reading this in Mixx Zine in like 1998, I remember seeing a blurb in Wizard magazine some time before 2000 about a live action movie which never came to fruition. Then in 2005 they tried to make one again and failed. Fingers crossed!

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Kleptobot posted:

Another chapter of the literal Tsundere girl as she tries to deal with school again. Slightly less serious than the first chapter but still pretty hosed up.

:pwn: That escalated quickly.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Elysiume posted:

I read most of Parasyte in Barnes and Noble, so I sort of skimmed. In the end, his parasite basically goes dormant, and the idea is that it probably will just be a normal hand for the rest of his life?

There was something about the local Mayor pushing a pro-parasyte agenda yet being parasyte free himself, and the protagonist fighting a guy with 5 parasytes in him and gently caress I can't remember anything besides it being badass as hell

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Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

pentyne posted:

There was something about the local Mayor pushing a pro-parasyte agenda yet being parasyte free himself, and the protagonist fighting a guy with 5 parasytes in him and gently caress I can't remember anything besides it being badass as hell
Yeah, I'm surprised there seems to be some ho-humming about Parasyte up in here, I seem to remember it as a pretty awesome series.

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