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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
You are likely familiar with the term "shounen", which effectively means "young boy" and is used to describe a demographic geared towards a young male audiences. One Piece, Naruto, etc. are some obvious examples. Seinen by contrast is a demographic more geared towards older men in the 18-30 year range. If it's a series with more violence, nudity, and/or mature themes that would seem out of place in a shounen series, there's a decent chance it's because it's seinen instead. Dramas or hard sci-fi would likely apply as well. Sometimes it can be hard to tell which demographic a given series falls under (Ah! My Goddess for example is seinen despite ostensibly being a standard shounen romantic comedy); the only way to know for sure is often to look at the magazine the work is being serialized within.


The original OP was pretty informative, so I'm going to more or less copy/paste that:

First we have some major figureheads to knock out here. We must differentiate between the New School and the Old School of Seinen as well.

The Old School of Seinen : Historic Tales with strong character development and character driven plot lines. Emerged directly influenced by the works of the great 49ers, adopting the themes present in the works of the earlier artist's and adapting them to more macho feeling stories. Known as the Gekiga school, the word means serious pictures, chosen to differentiate their works from traditional manga.

Takao Saito
The creator of Golgo 13 the most enduring of the Gekiga School's original works. Nonetheless a bit more formulaic and episodic in nature than most other mangaka's work.

Kazuo Koike
Pretty much the biggest guy when it comes to the old school of Seinen. He created the school. His two best known works are Lone Wolf and Cub and Crying Freeman.

Osamu Tezuka
Probably the most famous Mangaka in history, Tezuka branched into the Gekiga format later in his life and created some of it's most celebrated titles. MW involves a homosexual priest covering up his relationship with a Government Assasin, while Ode to Kirohito takes a realistic look at the life of a Doctor.

Masamune Shiro
Was quite influential in the technological side of Seinen manga, publishing Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed

Kentaro Miura
Miura didn't publish his masterpiece until 1992, but it served as a revival of the Old School of Seinen in terms of popularity. Berserk is still one of the most important pieces of modern Seinen Manga.

Nobuyuki Fukumoto
Explored the gambling side of Seinen with his seminal works Ten, Akagi and Kaiji

New School: The New School was equally influenced by the 49ers, in a different way. Instead of taking strong character development from the feminine themes and fitting them to macho themes it took the strong character develop and feminine themes to a male vantage point.

Rumiko Takahashi
Arguably the creator of the New School, Takahashi's Maison Ikkoku was published over a eight years, it was a painfully slow but endearing love story that would fit in the Shojo magazines that the 49ers loved. The only caveat was the story was told from a mail point of view, without the sparkled fantasy often seen in Shojo.

Mitsuru Adachi
Mitsuru major works have not been historically published in Seinen Magazines. But the influence, both by the new school on his works and by his works on later Seinen Mangaka can not be ignored. Miyuki, H2, Touch, and Cross Game all featured long romantic storylines developed by character interaction, often coupled with sports from a male point of view.

Naoki Urosawa
After Rumiko, the most important Mangaka in the new school. His works include Yasara, Master Keaton, Monster, 20th Century Boys, and Pluto.

Kaoru Mori
One of the modern leaders of the new school. Hand's down the single best artist working in Manga today. Also rumored to be quite beautiful. Her works include Emma and Otoyomegatari.

Takako Shimura
Took over the reins at enterbrain's Comic Beam following Koaru Mori's departure. Takako is the foremost LGBT mangaka in Japan. Best known works are Aoi Hana and Hourou Musuko

Inio Asano
Absurdist to realistic, Inio's scenery porn often belies the internal struggles her characters face. Currently working on Oyasumi Punpun. More well known stateside for Solanin.

Hitoshi Iwaaki
Well known for his crazy series Parasyte Hitoshi is currently working on historical tale Historie.

Makoto Yukimura
Praised for his relationship driven science fiction series Planetes he is currently working on award winning viking manga Vinland Saga.


Current Threads:
Berserk
Satoshi Mizukami
Foreign History Thread
Inio Asano
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
Teppu
Douman Seiman
Naoki Urasawa
Knights of Sidonia

Old Seinen Thread

Somebody fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jan 7, 2014

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Yeah I don't know whether it would be better to keep it to that thread or here. That said, it's having a monthly series isn't a death spell for discussion (see: Claymore).

As for the chapter itself, that was pretty loving feel-good :kimchi: I'm glad it seemingly isn't wrapping up just yet, which I thought it might be doing a few chapters ago.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I recently read the latest Dark Horse volume (Blizzard) of Blade of the Immortal. I still love that series, even if the human experimentation arc went on too long. Magatsu is my favorite character so his team-ups with Manji are always fun. Maybe this time Shira will stay dead.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It actually just finished up for good last December :( I was pretty surprised to learn BotI was almost 20 years old. I think Dark Horse is about 4 volumes behind.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Oh hey, remember that Shaft anime from 3 years ago called Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru? The manga releases were modestly popular, but the last one was in June 2011. Well, a whole shitload of new ones were just posted.

E: Looks like they got taken down. Still up on kissmanga, though.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 11, 2013

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Oh man chapter 65 :qq: Yeah, I'm definitely the camp that would like another season of this.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Soredemo reminds me a lot of Persona 4, minus the whole serial killer / entering TVs thing (though it gets plenty surreal at times anyway). A bunch of good friends, old and young, having fun in a little town which is a character in of itself.

Aaaaaand now I'm caught up again. Guess it's time for another 2 year wait.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Did you ever give Monster and/or Pluto a try?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'd actually say Yuuhi's negativity makes him a lot more interesting than the type of heroic characters you'd expect to find in stories like Biscuit Hammer, but just the same his character arc over the course of the series is outstanding.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Scent of Worf posted:

Negativity is not the the problem with that character. He's incredibly stupid, delusional and creepy as gently caress yet we're supposed to sympathize with him. It's cringe worthy how hard the author tries to portray him as "dark" and "twisted" because all he comes off looking like is an edgy aspie with gdaddy issues.
I guess I don't see how your first description and the last contradict themselves. Though he's hardly stupid, at least.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The impression I got was that it was always true nature/personality (sort of), but he would have had no way to actually act out his nihilism because just because one has an awful personality doesn't mean he/she will go out and hurt people. But then he gets his powers and a "cause" that he can actually get behind, so he agrees immediately. For me at least, this dynamic of having "bad" characters as the leads and deceiving everyone else is the main initial hook for the story and makes it more unique for it. I don't think it's Mizukami trying to make them look cool so much as to surprise the viewers (and other characters) that these are our so-called heroes.

But that said, the whole bloody thing is about character development so you should definitely see how it all plays out before you judge them entirely. It's certainly not a long story so it won't take you too long. By the way, don't feel afraid of posting about this stuff in the Satoshi Mizukami Thread either.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Yo seinen guys and gals, even if you aren't already following along with the Satoshi Mizukami Thread I strongly recommend checking out Spirit Circle. It's been crazy good so far and I partly worry that ironically it's been marooned in my own thread.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Stalins Moustache posted:

Not sure if this is the correct thread to ask, but I'm interested in starting to watch the Ghost in the Shell series but I have no idea where to start off. Any recommendations?
Stand Alone Complex is the most popular iteration of the franchise, and while I certainly won't discourage you from watching the movies since they're not bad I would at least say give the series a shot no matter what even if you don't care for the movies because SAC is really, really good. We had a simulwatch for it and everything.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Thread's been archived since it's been so long, but Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 28 came out finally.

E: :ohdear:

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jan 15, 2014

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Other thoughts: this would be a really bad time to have another 4 month delay.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Looks like the raws are up to 32 according to the Extra Scans website.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jan 16, 2014

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Seems pretty great to me, though from that chapter I'm not really sure what it's going to be about. And that may be for the best.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
All other slow/chill series are pretenders compared to YKK. Some chapters have hardly any dialogue at all, and just let the beautiful and yet simple visuals do all the work. It's positively brilliant and one of my favorite manga series of all time. It is definitely SOL though, just with a much more interesting setting than most.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The only problem with the Dark Horse releases are that some of the pages were clearly cropped incorrectly, so you have some bubbles or words cut in half. I remember the translation being fine.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'm pretty certain he has been "Guts" since Dark Horse volume 1.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 29

May have given it away a little too easily by having Hero be so nonchalant, but it was still a pretty fun chapter. Wonder if Hero knew Archer was there all along or only just after the assassination.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Silento posted:

Since Demon Queen has the seal, it's clear that her servant, Hero, will beat the poo poo out of the blue demons and their army, assuming he even needs to (it's presumably theirs, at least).
(Maoyuu)You can kind of make out the long ears, so it is indeed probably the Blue Demons' army. With the prince throwing the Beast Clan under the bus it's looking like this is building towards Blue Demons vs. everyone (not just Hero and company), resulting in an ousting of them from that council. Basically putting a neat little bow on the demon side for the foreseeable future.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
And another one.

It's pretty good but kind of weird!

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
1994? AMG has been around since 1988. Also ANN said it'd be April, so I wonder which it is.

I've posted about it a bit and yeah it's kind of surreal to see it finally ending (and equally surreal for other people who didn't even realize it was still going). That said it seems pretty well poised to end well; there aren't any loose ends left and the arc has felt like an endgame for about a year now. I think we can expect 3-4 more chapters which should be plenty. The last one might even be bigger than usual because I don't think there are enough chapters to fill a whole volume.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Kotonoba Drive Chapter 3

:ghost:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
There's a new chapter of Spirit Circle, the best manga currently in serialization in my opinion.

You should read it, because it's the best manga currently in serialization.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Finally: Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 30

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Seems pretty obvious that they're setting this up as a double front situation; Central with the rifles will attack the three kingdoms alliance while the blue demon clan will go after this newly unified demon conference. Hero will probably have to deal with the Blue Demon Leader on his own and everything else will be up to the others.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Well, according to Extras' site chapter 30 is part of Volume 8, and Akira Ishida's blog has volume covers up to 10. And that's not counting the serialized chapters that haven't been collected into a tankoban yet. So quite a few!

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
More Kotonoba Drive.

This series might be better at home in the surreal/absurd daily life thread.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 31




Learn something new every day.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Certainly great to see the release schedule bumped up a bit.

It's interesting that the muskets are seemingly not being outfitted for an entire army, but rather just a small band of crusaders. I suppose they don't have the technology (unlike the Three Nations) to mass produce them. It's hard to imagine the Three Nations dealing with a fully equipped musket-army at any rate.

By the way "Red Horse Nation" a pretty great name for a country.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
New Kotonoba Drive.

Spooooooky~

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Sorry for the double post but here is Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 33.

Some really good character moments in this one.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I don't know what to do with a world where Maoyuu Maou Yuusha chapters actually get released :supaburn:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It has to be a handful of volumes, I think it was almost double digits in terms of chapters before the 6 month release hiatus. I wouldn't be surprised if the series was already finished.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
There was another chapter of Tanpopo And Friends (Witch Craft Works).

Author needs to remember he has other characters. Or at least pair cat ears up with someone, anyone besides the sister.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 35

I'm going to guess Evil Female Knight was introduced so that vanilla F. Knight has some sort of rival on the level with Hero vs. Seal King.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Kotonoba Drive 12 really channels YKK; it could practically be a chapter from that if you just swapped in Alpha instead of Suu.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha 36

Looks like the set-up is that the demons will come to the rescue at the last second, assuming that negotiation took place some time before the battle.

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