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Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

That's so loving stupid. I don't think those two specific pictures constitute any measurable effect on the book's success, they're just background noise. That is unbelievably petty on any level.

Saint Jimmy posted:

Man, this is why you don't go into business with your friends.

And I hate each and every jingle on the show, almost as much as I hate when adam calls allison "baby girl"

It made more sense when he was talking to 13 year old girls. It's probably just a habit now. My 2 year old said "good times" to me the other day, which means I must say it way more than I think I do.

Did anyone listen to the Dr Drew episode with superfan Giovanni? I purposely avoided it for the longest time, cause who wants to listen to a weirdo sniveling nerd sperg about his obsession? It was very, very interesting. That kid had one of the worst loving lives imaginable in our current culture and he seems so loving normal and casual about it.

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Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

NewtGoongrich posted:

What does most of the staff do anyway? Why does Adam need 7-8 people to run a podcast?

I think despite his bravado that Adam feels responsible for a lot of people's well being, especially with the brain tumor Bryan has. They've all been around for a while.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Niwrad posted:

If you listen to the latest podcast from Adam's wife (For Crying out Loud), it sure sounds like they are awfully close to divorce.

But he makes so much money and works so hard! She should thank him more and not expect anything beyond that. Why doesn't she do what he wants all of the time, he makes the money! What is this country coming to? Jk, she'll get half his poo poo and get to keep the kids and nanny and he'll have to find a new maid. Hopefully he gets the house with the car in the office.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Sieg posted:

The latest A&D show (76), Adam opens up on Drew for constantly giving his "inner circle" ammo against him. He said he can't say anything now without "someone" quoting Drew or Bruce back to him. I can see Adam's point.

I really don't think Drew has a backbone and I could see him being duplicitous just because he hates confrontation that much and doesn't want Adam's wife to be upset with him.

WampaLord posted:

If you think "most super successful people" work an 80-100 hour week, I've got a loving bridge on the East Coast to sell you. The term "bootstraps" is meant to be ironic, sure it's awesome that Adam went from a construction worker to "literally a millionaire" but that can't happen for everyone.

edit - Forgot where I was for a second, rich people are lazy and poo poo!

Ariza fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Sep 10, 2013

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Saint Jimmy posted:

That was a good one. I think she got one guy to try to steal a bikini for her. A simple gag they did was have another girl (might have been the same one) stand by a broken down car and see every guy walk over to see if they could help. Then they dressed jimmy in drag and did the same thing. Good poo poo.

I saw that same broken car setup in a documentary once with a young sexy girl and an older fat lady and it was heartbreaking. Jimmy in drag would probably make it more tolerable, because he does not make a good lady. I remember watching The Man Show when it was originally on and it seemed dumb, but now I want to see it. $2 an episode is pretty steep though.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006
It's also 100% true to a sizable portion of the country across all races. It's absolutely racist though but it'll die out soon enough. Going by the people I know, I think Jews and Asians are much more adamant about dating within the tribe than white people. You guys have made more inroads on that than most races, in the US at least.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

WampaLord posted:

Literally the "I'm not a racist, but..." line but applied to someone else. Ez, you seem like a cool dude who likes Adam, but you have to admit he's racist. Racism isn't just calling black people the n-word and joining the KKK, and Adam is a huge practitioner of dog-whistle racism.

Honestly, I really enjoy some of his points and I'm not trying to be the PC Police here, but it's becoming increasingly clear as time goes on that Adam has lovely viewpoints about a lot of things. Perfect example - for a dude who hosted a sex advice show, he's pretty behind the times on trans issues.

99.99% of the world is behind the times on trans issues, especially over the age of 25 (completely arbitrary, I know). It's really only become a big thing in the last couple of years, unless you were in one of the few communities in the country that had a large population of them. Go back five years on these here message boards and tell me trans issues were important and thought about, now you say something negative and you get probated or banned. The internet has changed, maybe college campuses have changed, but almost everyone else doesn't care.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Social Animal posted:

Is this biological racism a wrong thing though? I get the hunch she's not an actual racist in the sense that she hates blacks or feels superior. I agree it's pretty bizarre to gently caress and love someone but put a stop on it due to baby mixing.

It's not really about it being wrong anymore, it's about fostering a sense of superiority. Saying 'poor people' counts as racism now so I guess everyone except the correct chosen few are ok and everyone else is a piece of poo poo racist/homophobe/transphobe(?). Lexicon policing is the laziest and least effective form of social change, but it sure is easier than doing something real. Eve and WOW and Breaking Bad and Fantasy Football, ya know?

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Ez posted:

Holy gently caress, Bryan has gotten so lazy with the drops. Allison talked about fearing ants crawling up her butt yesterday and he didn't play "There's something in my butt", and then later Adam talked about Whoopee Goldberg stammering on the view and he didn't play that clip of Whoopee stammering. He did shoehorn in "It's just a waste of my time" in a spot where it made no sense though, so I guess he earned his paycheck this week.

I miss rolling or drunk Anderson from the old days and the way he had his system setup so nobody else could do his job. I have been skipping most of TACS other than the 1 on 1s because those are usually pretty great, especially with comedians. The Adam and Drew show without guests is almost unlistenable too because they take 7 minutes of calls and the rest of the time Adam yells about nonsense and Drew almost immediately kowtows to whatever Adam's position is. Drew's shows where he interviews Adam's friends are uber creepy and fetishistic too (People just want to hear about Adam!)

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Red posted:

Why was Adam poor growing up? I thought his dad was/is a psychologist or psychiatrist or something. Didn't he give Ray therapy for like 15-20 years?

He was a counselor I think. I'm not sure what it took to call yourself a psychologist in California in the 70s, but psychiatrists are real doctors and make poo poo tons of money who also have to work their asses off everyday like any other doctor. My counselor in high school on the other hand, had a Bachelor's in sociology, couldn't spell, and told me I was a piece of poo poo. Counselors don't really make any money.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006
It seems to be 75/25 boring poo poo between the two of them instead of talking to retarded people about their horrible life choices. Adam said people must like it that way because it's popular but I don't think anyone does.

Edit - someone posted this in some thread, but check out http://www.thisyearcollection.org/ They take 3 months of old Loveline and Adam's old radio show and pick the best stuff. The lovelines end up being 6-7 hours and are pretty much non-stop amusing. Maybe they'll do The Adam and Drew Show someday and I'll be able to listen to It.

Ariza fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Nov 12, 2013

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur posted:

Hahahaha, I didn't know there was more than one AD fan in SA, the thing is so ramshackle. I did the screencap and sent it to them and they RTd it.

If you had asked me 5 or 10 years ago if the person from Loveline whose show I look forward to most each week, it would definitely not have been Anderson the drunk/stoned/methed out rear end in a top hat playing drops. I like the AD and The Film Vault, where Bryan's annoying retardedness shines, a lot more than The Adam and Drew Show at this point.

JB50 posted:

Gotta put air in the pirate ships sails right?

Why do people have a problem with what a show advertises? Its not like you actually have to buy the stuff they advertise. Lets face it, besides Amazon who are the big money advertisers for podcasts? Mangrate? Ashley Madison? Buttwipes?

In the podcast biz you probably take whatever you can get for advertising money.

Adam should shill whatever is available because he's already pretty sleazy and if you're looking to him for any sort of purchasing advice you're already hosed. Drew on the other hand, should probably not shill for poo poo that is complete hooey like psychics. Next he's going to pull a Dr Oz and start pushing lovely overpriced vitamins and magic alkaline water. It's kinda his responsibility as a practicing physician (with TV shows, Loveline, etc) to not stand behind a product that is reprehensible.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Sieg posted:

Drew has already gotten heat over deals he has made with pharma companies in the past. He was a paid spokesperson, but didn't give that disclaimer when talking about their products.

I don't care what they advertise. Real radio personalities do this crap all the time. "Oh, I just love my Comcast Internet, they are the best! Call for a special offer." "Sprint has amazing deals and plans, and they have the best service in the area in my opinion!" Just the cost of doing business.

Adam seems pretty savvy. On Ace on the House, he was talking about this 1920s fireplace he got for his new house, and how the mantle was missing. He recreated the mantle with wood and had a scenic painter come in and make it look exactly like the existing tile. I guess I don't see the sleazy part you are talking about. He sounds like any other paid spokesperson on any other station or podcast. In fact, I look forward to the ads in a way, because Adam's transitions are pretty hilarious at times. He'll be talking about Ray shoving poop in his ear, and then start talking about Stamps.com without missing a beat.

It always cracks me up how Drew hams up the Stamps.com ads.

I just meant sleazy in general though that is probably too strong of a word (savvy is probably better). I mean he'll shill anything for a buck, even things he should be opposed to based on his ranting. But he's a personality so it's fine, but I still look at Drew as a doctor first which is honestly more my personal problem. I should understand that he's a TV/radio guy first now. I've known too many doctors that get pulled into pushing bullshit for a buck and it makes me very upset. One thing we can all agree on is that the best podcast ads ever were from Norm MacDonald's short lived podcast. He made me laugh at Nick Swardson which should qualify him for some sort of award.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

RightClickSaveAs posted:

Oh wow the first one is with SuperDave. Definitely going to check this out.

If you have the choice, watch the video podcast with Super Dave instead of just listening to the audio version. You'll miss out on the looks Dave gives Norm and the other guy (who used to jerk off punks under the Queensborough bridge for 15 bucks a man) which are amazing.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Drew also tries to push 12 stepping as the only effective way to quit substance abuse, which doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize that it forces people who aren't in touch with their spiritual side to acknowledge a higher power. That's a fairly conservative viewpoint (and Drew should loving know better).

There's also the fact that, for some people, 12 stepping isn't the answer, regardless of faith.

You do know what he does for a job, right? I'd trust his judgment more than angry internet atheist #24569.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Apoplexy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97pwuQw-dYE I also didn't know that Adam defended Zimmerman, which is an immediate, 100%, no argument, no qualification, no possibly justification stamp of racism. Not just racism, but of outright MURDER ALL BLACKS. If I believed for a second that there was even the tiniest shred of this being one of the many obvious stances Adam's taken in order to pander to the conservatives in America in order to get more money (because nothing else matters to him, we all know that at this point), I'd be slightly more forgiving. But holy poo poo. Just so disgusted by him. And one of the funniest things about the earlier comments about how bad the sponsors Adam shills for? He has complete control over who he accepts money from. This isn't like his radio show, where he's contractually obligated to do spots for whatever the station execs have sorted out-- he's in the captain's chair! He chose to dive down a well of poo poo after a nickle. Also, check out the comments in that video if you wanna see what Adam's pandering to. Outright racism all over, not even ATTEMPTS at concealing it somewhat. Just flat out 'I wish all black people were lined up in front of me so that I could execute them en masse for White America!' poo poo.

You should probably stop listening to his shows and find something else to do with your life. I think any of the NPR shows would be right up your alley. You seem to be very upset and that's not good for your humors.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Apoplexy posted:

If Bald Bryan were Black Bryan, he'd already be Dead Bryan.

Now you're not even trying to be apoplectic, just dumb.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

bartok posted:

A real shame that Jim Jeffries got too busy to continue podcasting because Talkin' poo poo with Jim and Eddie was pretty entertaining at times.

He's been the best guest on every podcast I've heard him on and he barely has to repeat stories. The midget convention, taking the Playboy model to the pinball museum, his Cliff stories, etc. Being funny, moderately good looking and successful, and taking copious amounts of drugs and alcohol leads to a lot of awesome stories until you die at 37. He seems to have settled a bit now with his kid but that usually only lasts a minute until he boomerangs into the stratosphere.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Niwrad posted:

No, he's holding a fundraising event and will be selling it online. He also setup a FundAnything.

I'm all for it being fought and I have no problem with him getting a group together to fight it. Even if he mentioned that he's fighting this on the show and ask for their help to donate to the show and use the sponsors. But I do think it's tacky that a multi-millionaire is acting like a poor, small business owner hard up for cash so he can fight this case. I think I'd also feel better if this was a giant fund that all podcasts could use to fight these cases and not just a fund for Adam's legal defense.

One specific person that is being sued needs to fight and win so precedent is set for everyone. It is essentially a 'giant fund' for all podcasters because if he just pays the guy off the rear end in a top hat will keep moving along until somebody stops and pays lawyers to fight him. Even if it was completely free for Carolla, it's going to be a tremendous undertaking just time and energy wise. Patent trolls are usually just groups of lawyers so they know how to keep filing nonsense and dragging things out.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

benito posted:

Whatever their press release says, the patent trolls are still doing something that is totally legal. They only back down when it would cost them more to fight than they would get. This will not end until stops listening to (and taking donations from) big pharma, trial lawyers, and the biotech industry, because they all profit from the current status quo of patent law. However, in the Carolla world, if you oppose big pharma, you're some hippie/commie/faith healer/ignoramus who is out to destroy people who pay taxes.

I'm not mad at Carolla, but his righteous anger is very misplaced and he keeps defending an industry that is the ultimate reason why he got sued.

Edit: More detail

You are technically correct but if you say the words 'big pharma' to me I'm going to assume you're an ignoramus/hippie/naturopath/etc as well because that's the reality of the world we live in. It has nothing to do with how the pharmaceutical industry lobbies for patents and everything to do with people who hate vaccines and chemotherapy and pump their children full of industrial chemicals to get rid of the autism. Pharmaceutical companies are awful but their output allows millions of people to live every year that otherwise would be dead.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

benito posted:

We actually agree with each other, "Big Pharma" is just shorthand for the pharmaceutical industry, and I specifically used that language because it is what Carolla uses when he rants against people who have *any* objection against that particular industry. It is possible for an intelligent human being to hold in his mind the concept that modern medicine is a wonderful thing while also noting that the Congressional lobbying by said industry leads to unintended consequences like podcast patent trolls. Carolla, or more specifically, his broadcast persona, does not acknowledge such contradictions. If I criticize GM it does not mean that I want us all to ride horses.

Sorry, I guess I just needed to get on my high horse for a second and take offense to something today. Carolla is mostly annoying in everything he champions anymore and I particularly hate how much he says his line hasn't changed throughout his career. He really needs some humility, and I think once Lynette leaves him and takes the kids and his fortune finally drains, we'll get the old Adam back.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006
I wish Adam's failed sitcom from a long time ago was a huge hit that went into syndication and he had enough money to race cars and live comfortably, so he would keep his stupid old man trap shut. He reminds me of an old drunk Grandpa now, angry and boring and very arrogant.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Boinks posted:

This is exactly what I figured happened and all of you over reacted. :colbert:

People very easily believe things that fit into their worldview and will easily discount things out of hand that do not. It's how I work, how you work, etc. Plus everyone loves drama.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006
Is number one Asian big boobed qveen still doing porn? Minka always brightens him up and her stilted English is adorable.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

WEH posted:

1 and 3. His books are literally rants taken whole cloth from his podcast, so considering she was on that show daily I dunno how much I can blame her. Especially considering they were ghost written. His show, whatever. He's an adult and it's not like it's his first foray into TV

It really should've been 10 minutes of explaining, but she was his sidekick on a very big podcast and really does need to show interest in his shows and books because Adam is why people listen. This isn't rocket science and every other sidekick seems to understand it. Also, saying she didn't want to have the Carolla digital bug on her banner wouldn't even be an option if Adam wasn't such a weirdo about confrontation.

Most of the rest of what he said was very weird and off putting, but Adam is not neurotypical in the classical sense and is also a child. I might be upset if someone didn't say goodbye to me, but I'd get over in a few minutes and would never bring it up to anyone other than my wife. Her putting her Amazon kickbacks into his legal pot reminds me of when stores ask you for a dollar for charity when you're checking out so they can put out a press release about how much they've donated. You could hear the gears spinning in Bald Bryan's head to remember to act more interested in Adam's racing and poo poo.

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Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

visuvius posted:

Its weird to me that you guys are taking her side on the Amazon legal fund thing. Whether or not you agree with the concept of the whole donating to the legal fund, it was about the team effort and pitching in. He brought up a good point in that if Rogan, Nerdist et al. were willing to donate through the Amazon fund, what the hell excuse did she have? She's on the God drat network. Also, Jesus how much could it have been? Whats it like $500 bucks for 100 grand in Amazon purchases? I doubt ARIYNBF is bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars of Amazon revenue through her link. Give me a break and just pitch in. "I'll donate a t-shirt" is some pretty weak sauce poo poo in the face of $650,000 in legal fees.

His other points totally made sense as well, especially the lack of recurring bits or preparing for shows. The personal stuff was a little weird but he keeps mentioning that overall scale thing and if thats how he thinks about it then yeah that personal poo poo will eventually add up. I'd probably be a little put off as well if I inviting someone to a bunch of poo poo and they never reciprocated.

Man I totally hosed up the math on this but my point still stands.

I didn't think everyone else was donating their Amazon funds, just those on his network. I don't think the Nerdist people or Rogan even do those. His point was he was asking those guys to put the word out to donate to the legal fund. But I assume most of Allison's income from her own podcast comes from that referral link (which I think Ace takes a chunk of anyways), so why should she give up her pittance from her own show?. The personal stuff only makes sense if you're a petty weirdo like he is and shouldn't ever be made public, in any way, ever. Just say she wasn't a good sidekick, explain why if necessary, then be done with it.

I never really cared for her and I won't miss her on his show. I hope her show turns out amazing somehow so I have something else to put in my earholes during the week when I'm busy.

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