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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
I just finished "Blind Mans Bluff"

That was a seriously loving good read right there.

Now I want a version of it that covers 1989-2013 in the kind of detail that most of the book was in. Great book, but it was quite obvious the Author didn't have nearly as much good poo poo to write about from about the end of the Reagen years to the (then) modern day. I guess I'll have to wait until I'm older and it gets written eventually.

100% recommend the book though, really captivating stuff and a great read.


Rotten Punk posted:

Geneva Convention - This is the illustrated edition, since you probably don't read so good.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

The Face of Imperialism

Lucky Star, Vol. 1

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time as I did when I read this.

Well played. If your gonna carebear troll GiP at least be funny. Sorry you got probated man :(

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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
I just did my annual Tom Clancy re-read.. Started with the classic Red Storm Rising, and finished with The Sum of All Fears.

I can't say any of his books are the least bit worth reading or that there is anything redeeming about them. But once a year I get a hair up my rear end and re-read them all and enjoy them immensely for the few days it takes to read them. Then I take a long shower and pretend it never happened.

So yeah, that's my recommendation for Red Storm Rising. But this guy said it way better than me:

thesurlyspringKAA posted:

Well the whole story hinges on the super-secret F-117 being a supersonic fighter/bomber capable of total radar invisibility and the ability to carry and employ tons of air to air AND air to surface weapons. That is to say, the whole story hinges on BULLSHIT and was just fantastical dickwaving by a jingoist.

That said, I re-read it (and a few other warporn novels) every year or so.

The truest words ever written about Clancy.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Elendil004 posted:

they're milporn and I love them. I forget which book it is, where the US and Canada basically wage "hyperwar" on china or some asian country. Total wankfest, but fun to read.

I really want to re-write Red Storm Rising, with a better name.. but have it be kinda alterna-history where the soviet union solidified and continued their defense advances that we've seen up until now but on a much larger scale.. and where we got the cold war military we wanted and have the war spark off in Europe. Instead of the cop out Clancy went with though to end and limit the conventional war, I'd basically have it end the way it was supposed to- tactical nukes escalating to strategic nukes. So it'd be like.. first few chapters has the introduction to capabilities and the run up in readiness on both sides, and the intelligence war that both are waging.. Next few chapters the initial hostilities (first strikes by whoever is doing that, etc-- Special Forces raids, SEAD/DEAD etc day 1 stuff) that advance to the Naval War and the large Mechanized forces pushes.. and it tells the whole story from that same Clancy character POV (I.E interesting throw away characters like the pilots and poo poo). Anyway, the whole thing would devolve into the USSR gaining tactical and operational advantage on the ground in Europe leading to action chapters for the Nuclear forces guys (who've been kinda introduced in those first few chapters) and we see how the war would have looked from everybody's POV as it progress (quickly) from tactical nuclear weapons to theater nuclear weapons to a full on strategic force employment. The rest of the book can be about the NCA and nuclear forces surviving and riding out the war and attempting to negotiate an end to hostilities.. have it all end in the bleak death tolls of the war shown first from conventional warfare (which should also be hideous) all the way to the full on holocaust that was committed before the cessation of hostilities.

And welp yeah there ya go it's a shim highdea post.

To keep it relevant I highly recommend the book "The Last Ship" for nuclear war / post apoc war porn. There is even a very uncomfortable graphic sex scene in the book. Good times.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Godholio posted:

That's a $25 paperback with no kindle edition. drat.

Yeah, at least 15 times a year I'll go to find it on Kindle version and click that whole "Please let this publisher know you want a kindle version of this book!" thing.

When i was in 7th grade I took a voluntary weekend school science class thing (Think AP but not as academic I guess?), and we had this super cool teacher who taught us all kinds of neat poo poo bill nye the science guy style. Name was Mr. Cross. He was also really big into tabletop wargaming, and taught us all how to play and poo poo. Really great guy. Anyway, that spring when the book came out he actually went out and with his own money bought us all (Okay there was only 3 kids in the class by that point) a copy for us to read and do a book report on. (We had been learning about nuclear war and reactors and stuff).

So anyway, I thought this was the greatest thing ever and I've always cherished my copy.. But our local preachers daughter also was taking the class with us and while she was cool, her dad was decidedly not cool and raised hell because the book gets pretty graphic in places. Cut to Mr. Cross being fired, and the end of the Weekend Science class at my tiny school.

Really good book though.

It's worth the cost to pickup a copy since a digital version seems like it's never gonna happen. It's almost been turned into a movie / TV show a few dozen times.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

GAS CURES KIKES posted:

Yeah, at least 15 times a year I'll go to find it on Kindle version and click that whole "Please let this publisher know you want a kindle version of this book!" thing.

When i was in 7th grade I took a voluntary weekend school science class thing (Think AP but not as academic I guess?), and we had this super cool teacher who taught us all kinds of neat poo poo bill nye the science guy style. Name was Mr. Cross. He was also really big into tabletop wargaming, and taught us all how to play and poo poo. Really great guy. Anyway, that spring when the book came out he actually went out and with his own money bought us all (Okay there was only 3 kids in the class by that point) a copy for us to read and do a book report on. (We had been learning about nuclear war and reactors and stuff).

So anyway, I thought this was the greatest thing ever and I've always cherished my copy.. But our local preachers daughter also was taking the class with us and while she was cool, her dad was decidedly not cool and raised hell because the book gets pretty graphic in places. Cut to Mr. Cross being fired, and the end of the Weekend Science class at my tiny school.

Really good book though.

It's worth the cost to pickup a copy since a digital version seems like it's never gonna happen. It's almost been turned into a movie / TV show a few dozen times.

Oh poo poo

According to Wikipedia it got picked up to be a television show for real!

Wikipedia posted:


Television adaptation

In July 2012, the American cable television network TNT ordered a pilot episode of a series based on the novel. The series will be produced by Platinum Dunes Partners with Michael Bay, Hank Steinberg, and Steven Kane serving as executive producers. Steinberg and Kane wrote the pilot script, and Jonathan Mostow is set to direct the pilot. The adaptation varies significantly from the original novel. In addition to being set in the early part of the first half of the 21st century, the world wide devastation of mankind is the result of a pandemic which the crew must find a cure and not the result of nuclear warfare between superpowers.[citation needed] Subsequent scenes will include a supply officer who is known as the "Senator".[citation needed] The pilot is being filmed at a number of locations across San Diego including aboard the USS Halsey (DDG-97), which is standing in for the show's fictional USS Nathan James (DDG-151).[6] The former cruise liner RMS Queen Mary, now berthed at Long Beach, will also be used extensively.[not in citation given][7][8] The show will star Michaela McManus, Adam Baldwin, Charles Parnell, Travis Van Winkle, and Christina Elmore, along with British actors Sam Spruell and Rhona Mitra. Eric Dane is set to play the commanding officer of the USS Nathan James, Captain Tom Chandler.[9][10][11]

In May 2013, TNT ordered 10 episodes of The Last Ship, set to air sometime in mid-2014.[11] TNT is negotiating with the U.S. Navy to use San Diego-based destroyers for the filming of the first series. Site and location surveys onboard the USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG-108) will commence soon after approval is received.[12]

Those paperbacks may get a tiny bit more valuable. Might even hasten the publisher allowing digital copies to be published.

This is a pleasant surprise.. This book is the quintessential late 80's nuclear war / holocaust survival book.. I'm surprised to see it's getting picked up as a series. Hope it doesn't go Jericho too fast.

Ten bucks says Skeet Ulrich plays an Ensign, and that he gets paid what amounts to weed money in Skeet Ulrich world to play the part haha.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Elendil004 posted:

I always liked Joe Buff's books about the modern submarine combat. The gist is the germans and south africans band together to gently caress poo poo up, tactical nukes are used on the high seas in huge amounts, and subs are flinging nuclear torpedoes around willy nilly.

What amazon really needs is a "this book is book 2 in a series of 5" because I cant for the life of me tell which of Joe Buff's books comes "first" so gently caress it, maybe it's this one http://www.amazon.com/Straits-Power-Joe-Buff/dp/0060594705/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372102429&sr=8-1&keywords=joe+buff but no promises.

Gonna check his poo poo out on Kindle if they have it.. thanks man, I love this kinda poo poo. It's total garbage from a literature standpoint, but not everything I read needs to be intellectually stimulating.. ya know?

And anything with mushroom clouds in it gets my instant approval. I'll post up a comprehensive list w/ reviews of all the Nuclear Post Apoc stuff I've read. I figure Nuclear war and Nuclear Post Apoc are somewhat relevant in a book thread about the military.. Because there is no Nuclear Holocaust without the military!

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Elendil004 posted:

I always liked Joe Buff's books about the modern submarine combat. The gist is the germans and south africans band together to gently caress poo poo up, tactical nukes are used on the high seas in huge amounts, and subs are flinging nuclear torpedoes around willy nilly.

What amazon really needs is a "this book is book 2 in a series of 5" because I cant for the life of me tell which of Joe Buff's books comes "first" so gently caress it, maybe it's this one http://www.amazon.com/Straits-Power-Joe-Buff/dp/0060594705/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372102429&sr=8-1&keywords=joe+buff but no promises.

His books in order of publishing date:

1) Deep Sound Channel
2) Thunder in the Deep: A Novel of Undersea Military Action and Adventure
3) Crush Depth
4) Tidal Rip
5) Straits of Power
6) Seas of Crisis: A Novel


Would you say starting at #1 is worth it for this guys stuff, or is that second to last one that you link where you recommend beginning?

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Elendil004 posted:

The novels in the series are:
Deep Sound Channel, 2000
Thunder in the Deep, 2001
Crush Depth, 2002
Tidal Rip, 2003
Straits of Power, 2004
Seas of Crisis, 2005

So yeah you've got it right.

Thanks man. Deep Sound Channel is legit war porn, it's solid so far.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
You all need this book: 15 Minutes: General Curtis LeMay and the Countdown to Nuclear Annihilation.

The description is pretty useful:

Book Description posted:

Packed with startling revelations, this inside look at the secret side of the Cold War exposes just how close America came to total annihilation.

During the Cold War, a flight crew had 15 minutes to get their nuke-laden plane in the air from the moment Soviet bombers were detected—15 minutes between the earliest warning of an incoming nuclear strike and the first flash of an enemy warhead.

This is the chilling true story of the incredibly risky steps our military took to protect us from that scenario, including:
    • Over two thousand loaded bombers that crossed American skies. They sometimes crashed and at least nine times resulted in nuclear weapons being accidentally dropped

    • A system that would use timers and rockets to launch missiles even after everyone was dead

    • Disastrous atmospheric nuclear testing including the horrific runaway bomb—that fooled scientists and put thousands of men in uniform in the center of a cloud of hot fallout

    • A plan to use dry lake beds to rebuild and launch a fighting force in the aftermath of nuclear war
    Based on formerly classified documents, military records, press accounts, interviews and over 10 years of research, 15 Minutes is one of the most important works on the atom bomb ever written.

You are all welcome. :colbert:

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
The Curtis Lemay book is just retardedly well written. It covers an era, and it does it so well you don't even really realize just how much time is actually going by in the book because it captures that frantic existential threat feeling of the early cold war perfectly.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
Wanna peep that NPR list.. Link or C/P?

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

holocaust bloopers posted:

Hey Shim, you're a well read dude and I've seen you post about Roman poo poo. Have you read I, Claudius? Thoughts?

You can just read Tacitus straight and translated and make your own Claudius slash fic if you like. That's what old boy did with those books, and later said so.. But they're fun and I'd give it a whirl.

I've said this somewhere else but every armchair historian douche bag human being claiming to know anything will say they've read Gibbons' history of Rome but usually if they're not outright lying they read the 800 page kindle ebook version.. If you get all 6 volumes with his notes (on the reg less than 30 bucks but you can find it at 99 cents sometimes) and a good Latin/Greek dictionary to have on hand while reading you'll get a no poo poo full on education that also entertains and amazes when you put all of it in context.

Read Gibbons. All grown men should at least put that on a bucket list back burner, it's the last true history of "us" and Howard Zinn is a dick suck sycophant compared to gibbons, and I love Zinn.

And yeah I get that they were separated by things like a few centuries but whenever you start talking what's good history poo poo to read you never don't see them come up. But Gibbons is so goddamn intellectually honest (for a white guy speaking English writing a retrospect) you have to start there and just read everyone else in whatever sequence you like afterwards.

And don't forget, before you read any roman slash fic, start with the real poo poo- it's always way more awesome than the remix. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo for example.

Slim Shady can't spit shots sick as that and claim it's original just because the copyright ran out two thousand years ago ;)

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jul 16, 2014

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

quote:

Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo,
Aureli pathice et cinaede Furi,
qui me ex versiculis meis putastis,
quod sunt molliculi, parum pudicum.
nam castum esse decet pium poetam
ipsum, versiculos nihil necesse est;
qui tum denique habent salem ac leporem
si sunt molliculi ac parum pudici
et quod pruriat incitare possunt,
non dico pueris sed his pilosis
qui duras nequeunt movere lumbos.
vos, quod milia multa basiorum
legistis, male me marem putatis?
pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.

quote:

I will sodomise and face-gently caress you,
cocksucking Aurelius and poofter Fucius,
because you thought me, because of my little verses,
which are a bit sissy, indecent.
For a proper poet should be pure,
himself, but his poems don’t need to be;
indeed, they have salt and wit
if they’re sissified and indecent,
and only when they can arose an itch,
not, I say, in boys, but those hairy men
who cannot move their rough cocks.
Because you’ve read of my thousands of kisses,
you suppose I’m a soft man?
I will sodomise and then skull-gently caress you.


Catallus owned.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
I thought the whole "White english speaking dude" caveat covered that but hey ;)

For those that don't know, Godholio actually teaches this kind of poo poo for a living so he's more than likely right and I'm almost certainly wrong. My education on the matter cost 99 cents like I said, and it's value probably shows.

:shobon:

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Sep 9, 2001
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