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Azrael Alexander
Jun 24, 2011

No one ever asks if Bender would like to live in a tiny little house. Not that I would. A tiny little house that says "Bender" on it.
I'm so sorry about Union. :( You gave her the best care you could, more than a lot of other people would have done. You didn't let her down at all. This is the only bad part of owning a dog...my best to you.

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Azrael Alexander
Jun 24, 2011

No one ever asks if Bender would like to live in a tiny little house. Not that I would. A tiny little house that says "Bender" on it.
That's terrible. :( That dog walker sounds like an idiot, to be honest. That's the thing with dog aggressive breeds, you always have to be careful when they interact with other dogs, even dogs they know. I would never feel comfortable leaving multiple dogs in the care of someone else. I feel like the fight could have been broken up before Jojo was killed, but if the dog walker was overwhelmed and didn't know how to handle the situation...yeah. It's so sad that she had to go that way. :( If people would just understand DA better, things like this wouldn't have to happen...

Skizzles posted:

edit: I just can't imagine how they feel. I wouldn't be able to look at those pits the same ever again. :smith:
You just have to look at it as dogs being dogs. Whatever prompted Gracie to attack Jojo wasn't evil intentions, just dogs being dogs. It's hard, because we love our dogs so much. But accidents happen. I know that even I would have a hard time looking past an incident like that, but I couldn't blame the other dogs for just doing what they're programmed to do.

Azrael Alexander fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 26, 2013

Azrael Alexander
Jun 24, 2011

No one ever asks if Bender would like to live in a tiny little house. Not that I would. A tiny little house that says "Bender" on it.

Skizzles posted:

How awful. :(


Logically I would know this, and while I would feel awful, I would just think "they're just being dogs" and probably be less upset about it than most. But Benny is mildly horrifying when he goes into prey mode, he's like a different dog. Gracie's just a dick. They're both sweet as can be with people, but they are not dogs I could ever handle owning. Let's face it, I'm biased 'cause Jojo was my favorite. :smith:

I think they're worried about Benny and not sure what to do with him. They still have two cats. Gracie and Kai bother them the most, but occasionally Benny gets more interested in them than I'm comfortable with, and if they ever make a noise out of distress, he's going for them. Gracie and Kai just chase them out of fun and are easily redirected. Benny cannot be redirected. So I don't know what they're gonna do with him. :/

Sorry to keep semi-derailing, I'm just kind of shocked by all this. I really can't help but think it had to be something to do with the dog walker. Maybe she stressed Gracie out and she took it out on Jojo, or she just missed some important signals, I don't know. The owner isn't using that dog walker anymore, at least.
I'd say it's pretty obvious that Benny needs to be in a home with no cats or small animals. Was it Benny or Gracie who did most of the damage to Jojo? Or does anyone even know? Had the dogs ever fought before? Without actually witnessing what happened it's hard to make a judgement call about the individual dogs behavior. I know a lot of dogs, regardless of breed, who don't normally display DA but will gang up on another dog that's being attacked. I've seen our family dogs do it, when my aunt's dog attacked mine. My cousins dog, who is normally buddies with my dog, jumped right into the fight. We broke it up before anyone was seriously injured, but I don't doubt that they would have killed my dog if we hadn't.

Serella posted:

I don't know how this works, tbqh. I agree he can't stay in the home since he's a danger to the cats, but who wants a dog that participated in killing another dog? Like, not even a strange or aggressive dog, but a dog that was an established part of their home. Seems like it would be very hard to find someone willing to take him in.
There are probably rescue who would take him in. The might not even offer him up for adoption, but let him live at their facility as an alternative to euthanizing him. Or he could go to a pit savvy home where he is the only dog. I don't believe in euthing dogs for DA or prey drive, even if the dog killed the other dog/animal. But he will require an experienced owner who understands DA, understands the situation that took place, and is willing to work with him and not put him in a situation that sets him up to fail. That's what happens with so many DA dogs - they are set up to fail by their owners who don't "get" DA or think that it is curable or nonexistent. Part of being a responsible pit bull owner is addressing dog aggression in a rational way, for your dogs sake and the sake of other dogs as well.

Azrael Alexander fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jul 26, 2013

Azrael Alexander
Jun 24, 2011

No one ever asks if Bender would like to live in a tiny little house. Not that I would. A tiny little house that says "Bender" on it.

Skizzles posted:

I have no idea who did the most damage to Jojo. It could have easily been Gracie, because when she decides she hates a dog, she does NOT relent if given the chance to get at them. But it could have just as easily been Benny.

I'm wondering if they may consider giving him back to the rescue he came from. That's the first thing I would do. I agree dogs shouldn't be euthed for DA or prey drive, they just need an appropriate home. I appreciate their love and advocacy for pits, but I'm thinking they should cool it on owning them.
If the rescue will take him back, that definitely seems like the best option at this point. Seems to me like they just have too many drivey pets to properly deal with, and lack the proper knowhow to deal with it in the appropriate way. I hope that they at least learn from this experience so it doesn't have to be repeated. :/

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