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Fedule posted:If you still have any questions about the plot, there's a good chance they're one of the 93 that were posed to Uchikoshi (and Ben Bateman, the localisation editor) in an interactive Q&A session following the game's English release. There's a lot of great, interesting and funny stuff in there, and some of it may have even not been completely forgotten about in the years it took them to make the sequel happen. quote:My cherished theory is, “Once a piece of work leaves the hands of a writer, it becomes the readers’ work, who is the receiver.” this plus the answers in the general theme of "idk; use your imagination" are kind of refreshing to see from a content creator. people want hard, definitive canons from primary sources, and: gently caress that. thanks fedule from me as well. it was a great experience! even if i wasn't posting.
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Thanks for the LP Fedule. I ended up buying this game years ago while following along with the LP and while ZTD still was nothing but a futile hope in the minds of fans. Grabbed ZTD on steam day 1 and don't regret it at all. Far from perfect but there's really nothing else quite like it.
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quote:Q30: What prompts Dio to pull a knife on Clover? Japan
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OddHaberdasher posted:Exactly what am I in for? What is the problem with the translation? It's mostly decently functional but there's some amusing find-and-replace fails, at least one "okay did an editor even look at this line?" level nonsense, and kind of messes up a reveal by dropping a key detail early. I haven't used it myself since I learned about after I'd read it but I believe there's a fan patch floating around out there that fixes most of the glaring stuff? It's still pretty much fine even without.
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Amazing. I followed this for five years, completely unspoiled, just to find out that it didn’t even have an ending - but that, in taking so long to be finished, the man behind it was able to go and create an ending for it. What a ride!
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OddHaberdasher posted:Exactly what am I in for? What is the problem with the translation? I think the most instructive thing to know about Ever17's translation is this: Fairly close to the end of the work someone obviously made a decision to change a character's nickname from "Youth" to "Kid". They did this with a find-and-replace throughout the entire script. Set to ignore capitalization. And spacing. It's very clear that no-one looked at the script again even once between that and release. It's actually pretty readable for the most part, but when it has problems they're absurdly glaring.
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David Corbett posted:Amazing. I followed this for five years, completely unspoiled, just to find out that it didn’t even have an ending - but that, in taking so long to be finished, the man behind it was able to go and create an ending for it. What a ride!
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BurningStone posted:I can’t believe this is over, literally can’t believe it. Except the story clearly isn’t over, so it’s kind of like it isn’t. Very appropriate. Yeah, this is how I feel about it too. I don't know if I'm going to get ZTD - I mean, I'm not actually good at puzzle games, or games where I have to think quickly, or solving mysteries, which is why I like reading someone else solving them! - but this was a fantastic experience even if I don't.
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If you've made any fan-content for this thread that you don't see listed in the second post or in the Spoiler Archive in that post, please let me know. I'd hate to miss anything. Color Printer, do you want your incomplete plot chart archived, or would you prefer it to be removed?
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Bravo Fedule, you've done the good work, and it is appreciated. Thank you so much for introducing me to this and for letting me avoid any save game erasing bugs
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Quality LP. Now, if only we can arrange it so Virtue has the last post, then this thread will have achieved everything it could hope to.Kanfy posted:This is probably a good time to mention that there's an LP of Ever17 in the archives as well, though the translation is a little infamous. Welp, at least it's complete already. Time for another plunge.
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Congratulations on finishing it, Fedule!zonohedron posted:Yeah, this is how I feel about it too. I don't know if I'm going to get ZTD - I mean, I'm not actually good at puzzle games, or games where I have to think quickly, or solving mysteries, which is why I like reading someone else solving them! - but this was a fantastic experience even if I don't. Don't worry; one way or another, I'm sure someone will LP it. If it's not Pmush and/or the goonmind, well, I've been thinking for quite a while now about doing it myself.
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It's actually a little bittersweet being at the end. I can't imagine how weird it will feel for the people who have been here since the very start.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Quality LP. Now, if only we can arrange it so Virtue has the last post, then this thread will have achieved everything it could hope to. If this could be managed, I would die a happy man.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Quality LP. Now, if only we can arrange it so Virtue has the last post and gets permabanned for it, then this thread will have achieved everything it could hope to. ftfy
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Amazing LP Fedule, thanks for sticking with it.
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If you really don’t want to play through ZTD then I highly recommend supergreatfriend’s recorded stream on youtube, as long as you use the “skip 10 sec” shortcut frequently through the puzzle rooms while he’s plodding around Great LP, cool to see it finished!
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Tempting, but not yet.
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Fedule posted:Color Printer, do you want your incomplete plot chart archived, or would you prefer it to be removed? Go ahead and remove it. It was never meant to be. Life is, as they say, simply unfair.
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I'm amazed that it's finally complete. A lot to unpack from all that. Seeing Akane in her Zero get-up is kind of rad, though. Thanks and congratulations for getting through it, Fedule! Now that I've seen it all I can finally play this. 
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2 years ago? Bloody hell. Maybe I should replay it. 
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Also just posting to say Thank You to Fedule for keeping this going. I had no loving idea about this game or 999 or ZTD before seeing this thread but I read the recommended 999 LP, caught up and followed along with this, and am hyped and about to purchase ZTD to experience that. You're loving awesome, brother! 
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Since we've now finished VLR, it seems worth noting that, just like 999, there's an FAQ for VLR that explains some of the backstory and reasoning for stuff. Like Clover and Alice's outfits (no I'm not actually kidding): http://virtueslastreward.com/qahome/
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Fedule posted:This is as close as we'll ever get to an official confirmation that the viewpoint character of Another Time is who some people who have played Ever17 think it is. Hang on, I read Ever17 and I always thought the unnamed x-factor being Us, the Player WAS the twist in that game. Is there a different interpretation I completely missed? Also, it goes without saying, thank you for lping this beast of a game so thoroughly, it's been a wild ride.
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Rune Full Moon posted:Since we've now finished VLR, it seems worth noting that, just like 999, there's an FAQ for VLR that explains some of the backstory and reasoning for stuff. Like Clover and Alice's outfits (no I'm not actually kidding): Actually, given that they were agents on a mission, I really am curious about their outfits now.
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might be wrong posted:Hang on, I read Ever17 and I always thought the unnamed x-factor being Us, the Player WAS the twist in that game. Is there a different interpretation I completely missed? That's a popular thing that people read into Ever17 because people like metafiction; the problem is it just doesn't fit the facts as well as the straightforward textual reading (massive Ever17 spoilers): The player's perspective character is a fictional four-dimensional entity that calls itself Blick Winkel. This thread probably isn't really the place to go into the arguments either way, though.
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Oh right, I forgot to mention the K Ending. The reason that Dio's bracelet was broken was because Kyle wanted to see if Sigma would save him (his son) over Phi.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Oh right, I forgot to mention the K Ending. Which of course wouldn't work because Sigma is his 22 year old self and didn't know Kyle was his son, and there was also the whole armor thing. I think he was a little bit confused there.
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Side note now that this is all over: Read Luna's password backwards.
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Cyouni posted:Side note now that this is all over: Read Luna's password backwards. Oh hey turns out I said this which I completely forgot about Super Jay Mann posted:Well I'm gonna be honest, I expected some sort of "you're not controlling who you think you're controlling" twist because, again, Uchikoshi gonna Uchikoshi. It's weird seeing this in hindsight and realizing I was spot on. 
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Luna is the first one there to see Kyle when he wakes up, even though he apparently hates her for being a robot.
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luna is a great character, but god drat is she ever melancholic. i always found it interesting how the singular non-human character was the most sympathetic of the bunch.
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it's probably referring to sigma klim.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's probably referring to sigma klim. Or more like Kyle Klim (since he'd have Sigma's last name?).
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Color Printer posted:Go ahead and remove it. It was never meant to be. Life is, as they say, simply unfair. Just remember that in a different timeline, perhaps your chart went northeast instead and made it through just fine
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