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Liverslapper
Jun 3, 2009

Grimey Drawer

rio posted:

Ok...three days later I think I am downloaded and patched. I have hit a wall trying to get a sega ID though - does anyone have advice or a link with how I finish this up?

e: to clarify, after entering my email I get some popup that says who knows what.

http://kotaku.com/5928484/cant-wait-for-phantasy-star-online-2-heres-how-to-play-the-japanese-version


This should help you get through the process. If you still can't get it to work then you can post a screen shot or join the IRC channel.

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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
So is there a goon team on Ship 2 at all?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



kirbysuperstar posted:

So is there a goon team on Ship 2 at all?

I'd gather that there isn't really a goon team, due to it being such a small community as well as :effort:, but the goon spreadsheet makes it easy for people to add each other to their respective friends lists and play together despite there not being a team.

NextTime000
Feb 3, 2011

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Well, there kind of is, but I think they are close to member cap (team member cap can be increased by leveling up the team, but they are more than likely at the team level cap by now) and with the sudden influx of incoming goons I don't want all of them spamming the one guy I had previously referred everyone to.

If someone wants to make a new goon team I would be happy to include all the teams in the OP, This can even go for the oddball goons who are on other ships.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



NextTime000 posted:

Well, there kind of is, but I think they are close to member cap (team member cap can be increased by leveling up the team, but they are more than likely at the team level cap by now) and with the sudden influx of incoming goons I don't want all of them spamming the one guy I had previously referred everyone to.

If someone wants to make a new goon team I would be happy to include all the teams in the OP, This can even go for the oddball goons who are on other ships.

Come up with an appropriately goony name and I will make a team today when I get home from work (about 4 hrs from now)

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet

Cockblocking Jerk posted:

Come up with an appropriately goony name and I will make a team today when I get home from work (about 4 hrs from now)
Change the letters in this from Little Wing (Phantasy Star Portable 2) to


Little Wang :awesome:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Handgun Harlot posted:

Change the letters in this from Little Wing (Phantasy Star Portable 2) to


Little Wang :awesome:

Too obvious, given the amount of anime porn symbolchat that showed up in my history after afking in b20 last night, it just might be taken.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 28, 2013

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet
Where's Andy? We came up with a bunch of awesome team names a while back (Red Ring Rico's Roughnecks was not one of them).

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...
Hildebear Workshop. CAST Macrame Association. Dark Phalli. Some sort of reference to illicit CAST-Mag relationships.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



NextTime000 posted:

Well, there kind of is, but I think they are close to member cap (team member cap can be increased by leveling up the team, but they are more than likely at the team level cap by now) and with the sudden influx of incoming goons I don't want all of them spamming the one guy I had previously referred everyone to.

If someone wants to make a new goon team I would be happy to include all the teams in the OP, This can even go for the oddball goons who are on other ships.

Goons who can't join the as-yet unnamed current goon team on Ship 2 can come join Taepodong, I just established it today, and I'm funneling team points earned from Team COs to pay for my cocaine habit, I mean team roster expansion and team room and poo poo.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 28, 2013

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only
I'm attempting to do the first open exploration quest in the forest and for some reason when I go to the camp ship it says 'currently unavailable'. any idea why it would do this?

EDIT: scratch that I'm dumb

Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 28, 2013

Liverslapper
Jun 3, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Go to the Quest Counter Attendant, press E.

"Select Quest from List"

This will bring up the "Quest Type Selection" box

Click on available quest.

This will bring up the "Quest Selection" box along with the "Quest Information"

Pick the quest you want to do.

Select Normal

Then select "Quick Start"

If you want to join a party, select "Join a party on current block" or "Join a party on another block"

This will bring up the "Party Information Menu"

Just click "OK" and you will start connecting.


Now go to the Campship.


Read the OP for guides.




Quit being dumb

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

I'd suggest "Space Assholes" but that's the team I made for myself and my IRL friends. I guess I could turn it into a goon guild if you guys want since only 2 of my friends play and one is technically a goon. It's level 2 right now. Or 3, whichever has a team room. Also, Goatse team flag.

Umberger
Jan 24, 2010
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=1510

Divine Amaterasu. :allears:

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Huh, new patch. I think the reason patching takes so long is because it appears to redownload every file that was replaced by the english patch. This was probably just some aesthetic items bloated into a gigantic monstrosity of a patch. I think I'll save a backup of the original japanese files this time for the next time it patches.

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck

Infinity Gaia posted:

Huh, new patch. I think the reason patching takes so long is because it appears to redownload every file that was replaced by the english patch. This was probably just some aesthetic items bloated into a gigantic monstrosity of a patch. I think I'll save a backup of the original japanese files this time for the next time it patches.
The barebones English patch is only around 5MB and gives you all the core functionality to play the game. It's the story patch and largefiles that are the bulk of your redownloading.
I personally don't use any of them, but there is a fan-made launcher that will automatically keep a backup of your JP files and restore then when you finish playing to save you the trouble of having the updates overwrite all your patch files.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
What do the largefiles even do?

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck
Mostly fluff. Like a lot of chatter-type stuff. I haven't used it in months but their size is due to having the text files mixed in with audio files. Sega's brilliant file system at work. v:v:v

Aenslaed
Mar 29, 2004
Nonfactor
It translates the chatter in game during emergency codes. One very important thing it translates is the menus in xqs. No reason not to get it.

Protocol 5
Sep 23, 2004

"I can't wait until cancer inevitably chokes the life out of Curt Schilling."
Quick rundown of changes in the new patch, plus trade in weapon info. I'll cover the new AQs/XQ once I have a chance to run them and/or more data comes out through the usual channels.

New AQs for City, Ruins, and Altar, containing insect darkers, marine darkers, and dragons, respectively. Cap types are a>b>c in that order.
New Goron Zoran rare version: Zoron Graal presumably with new rare drops.
New client orders for killing rare Goron and Ex, for whatever that's worth.
New XQ: Forest and Dragon. 10 free X passes from the campaign item box on the visiphone to go with it.
Gunner balance changes: if you had a Gunner prior to last weeks patch, you got a free respec, check your campaign item box.
• Zero Distance range extended
• Perfect Keeper bonus increased
• Satellite Aim area of effect made both wider and taller, can be cancelled with Matrix flip earlier in the animation
• Reverse Tap vortex effect range increased
Cost for Ship Transfer reduced from 700 AC to 350
Boost events (note that these are for JST, so adjust -13h to get EST and so on):
• June 3 200% meseta boost (hint: XQ stages drop a fuckload of meseta)
• June 4 50% XP boost
• June 7 50% rare drop boost

Trade in weapons

City (dark element):
Kirate Edia > Grid Edia sword
Kalcy Weapon > Peril Weapon rifle
Kallux Gun > Perilous Gun machine guns
Acro Cane > Ouster Cane wand

Ruins (dark element):
Ruinsharm > Ruin Mirahsi sword
Fossil Tricks > Fossil Bower double saber
Latoria Rain > Foia Rain rifle
Plosion > Akst Plosion launcher (about drat time)
Raywen Book > Nornil Book talisman

Altar (light element):
Asro Linga (new) > Rosso Linga sword
Spheretron (new) > Elutron rifle
Blue Floris (new) > Red Floris talisman

So three (?) new swords, three new rifles, two new talismans, and one each of launcher, wand, double saber and machine guns. The sword overkill is kinda weird considering there's only one each for trade in wired lances and partisans, but there's also some much needed love for Rangers who had a grand total of one trade in rifle (not counting DF Elder trade ins) and no launcher prior to this.

I would cover the XQ trade ins, but it's not like there any pressing need for it.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

One of the joys of getting into a new MMO is having someone post a large amount of information with loads of acronyms and having no idea what any of it means :allears:

Not even being sarcastic, I genuinely love learning new acronyms and weird systems. For instance, this weapon trade-in thing, is it anything like those monster part weapons in PSO1? I loved my Mantis Sickles in that, even though having to do some bullshit quests to be able to do the trade-in was annoying as gently caress.

Protocol 5
Sep 23, 2004

"I can't wait until cancer inevitably chokes the life out of Curt Schilling."
AQ = Advance Quest
XQ = Extreme Quest
Both are high level content that drop items that can be exchanged for equipment.
Trade in weapons come in two types, items only and items+weapon. The items only type are acquired by trading the required number of items from either a particular event boss encounter (Dark Falz Elder), or from Extreme Quests (enemies will drop fragments and ores that are traded in). Items+weapon requires 90 stones of a particular type that only drop in Advance Quests, as well as a rare weapon. In exchange you get a more powerful version of the weapon you traded in.

Trade in weapons are great, because they provide an alternate way of getting good weapons, assuming you can get your hands on the base weapon. Some are much easier to get than others, but rare weapon drops in Extreme Quests are heavily weighted toward the trade in weapons for the relevant types (ie; Mech and Tundra drops mainly rare weapons from mechs and Tundra beasts). It makes it a lot easier to bootstrap your way up to strong weapons if you have lousy luck with regular drops.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

MR. J posted:

Mostly fluff. Like a lot of chatter-type stuff. I haven't used it in months but their size is due to having the text files mixed in with audio files. Sega's brilliant file system at work. v:v:v

I guess that also explains why the story patch is so big! And what, you think having what seems to be MD5 hashes for file names isn't sane? Pffft.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

So I guess I need to wait for the large files and story patches to update after the new game patch? Or can I just reinstall them and have it work okay?

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

So I guess I need to wait for the large files and story patches to update after the new game patch? Or can I just reinstall them and have it work okay?

Yeah, you need to wait for them to update, otherwise the game straight up doesn't work. All the important stuff is in the basic patch anyways, the rest is really just fluff.

I encountered Mr.Umbrella for the first time today and failed to heed the operators warning and attacked it in a panic. Now I feel stupid.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

I love the fluff though, Lisa pretty much never fails to make me smile. Ah well, thanks for the answer, I'll probably wait until they update them anyways. Wish we had a full English release already. :/

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

So I guess I need to wait for the large files and story patches to update after the new game patch? Or can I just reinstall them and have it work okay?

the patches are already updated(well main translation patch is anyway, no idea about the story one)

Percity
Oct 24, 2006

Story patch is working for me with the English launcher. The launcher complains a bit but it works fine in-game.

rustyshackelford
May 31, 2011
EDIT: Joining the Nol Vacancy team (if they let me!) in an effort to consolidate us.

rustyshackelford fucked around with this message at 08:06 on May 30, 2013

Mediocrity Goggles
Mar 20, 2009

Looking at it the wrong way.

NextTime000 posted:

Well, there kind of is, but I think they are close to member cap (team member cap can be increased by leveling up the team, but they are more than likely at the team level cap by now) and with the sudden influx of incoming goons I don't want all of them spamming the one guy I had previously referred everyone to.

I sure would like to know what this super secret team you're referring to is, and why they have all the goons that could be joining us instead.

I am the leader of Nol Vacancy, the original Ship 2 goon team made several months ago. Thanks to the efforts of like... one guy running team orders on and off the past few months, we have reached team level 2 and already have a team room... which isn't much at all sadly. We technically have 26 members, but really it's just Chibs, and I'm just saying that cause he's the only one who was on the registry from this team, I can't even call myself an active member anymore.

This is going to be an absolute mess if we don't decide early on what team to join, cause so far we already have 3 goon teams with only about 5 people recently seen between all of them, and several other goons just scattered about.

Mediocrity Goggles fucked around with this message at 07:39 on May 30, 2013

Herb Stencil
Oct 22, 2012

Bonafide Homosaxual

Mediocrity Goggles posted:

This is going to be an absolute mess if we don't decide early on what team to join, cause so far we already have 3 goon teams with only about 5 people recently seen between all of them, and several other goons just scattered about.

This is the sort of thing that's stopped me from contacting anyone about joining a team (or even posting in the thread). Is there some way we can get organized quickly?

Sofia Coppola_OD_
Nov 1, 2004

I'm not sure that having a team really makes any difference at this point. We don't have that many active players, I play a few hours everyday and I've only really run into 3 other forums members. Since a lot of us don't have the same time schedule, and we are unlikely to really pursue the team quests, I don't think it is really something to worry about.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

It's for organizational purposes, really. Makes it easier to have all of us in the same team, I figure, even if we don't do any team quests. Makes it easier to organize parties and such.

Protocol 5
Sep 23, 2004

"I can't wait until cancer inevitably chokes the life out of Curt Schilling."
I've had a look at City and Ruins AQs, and hoo boy. Do you like Predikahdas? Neither do I, but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one in City. Photon Bursts are really tense, since you can have a half dozen of the fuckers teleporting around and murdering party members from behind. The flipside of that is that people have found a ton of cool new weapons in City, including upgraded versions of the special boss weapons and a new unit set that actually matches the highest defense with the required defense stat (124/166/124, 606 R-DEF).

Ruins is less stressful, though Cyclos and Kuklos hit really goddamn hard at that level. The real pain in the rear end is Crabatas with a huge amount of health who turtle up a lot. Lightning tech spam is highly recommended, and a fast hitting Shock II or III weapon will help a lot too. Dagachas and Dagashes both drop new rare talismans, the Dagash one is currently the second best available with 843 T-ATK at +10.

While on the subject, there's a new all class talisman named The Tarot, it drops from rare Goron in AQs, requires 410 DEX, and has 794 T-ATK at +10. It's basically a slightly weaker and easier to equip Green Duel Gaze, that drops off of common enemies. There's also a new 640 S-ATK req gunslash called Gun Braver that drops off 56+ Predikahdas, 794/714 at +10. There's other stuff here and there, if anyone is interested in specific weapon classes, feel free to ask.

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet
Forming a team doesn't mean poo poo if you're not going to actually put in effort to collaborate together and level it up. Except for TEAM CHAT!!!

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Handgun Harlot posted:

Forming a team doesn't mean poo poo if you're not going to actually put in effort to collaborate together and level it up. Except for TEAM CHAT!!!

Do teams have to be releveled every week or some poo poo?

NextTime000
Feb 3, 2011

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^^ no, levels are permanent

Mediocrity Goggles posted:

I sure would like to know what this super secret team you're referring to is, and why they have all the goons that could be joining us instead.

I am the leader of Nol Vacancy, the original Ship 2 goon team made several months ago. Thanks to the efforts of like... one guy running team orders on and off the past few months, we have reached team level 2 and already have a team room... which isn't much at all sadly. We technically have 26 members, but really it's just Chibs, and I'm just saying that cause he's the only one who was on the registry from this team, I can't even call myself an active member anymore.
Woah poo poo I forgot all about your team (SA has all of these goddamn smileys and not one of them is a spit-take? :cmon:) , I think what happened was some other goons left Nol for this other team and I just thought it was dead :shrug:. The only reason I haven't mentioned the name of this team in here is because the leader isn't a goon and I didn't want to shove a :goon: onto him. I am still trying to contact him to see if I can at least list the name of this team here at the very least to say "there are a bunch of goons on this team"

I forget why people left Nol Vacancy to begin with, I almost want to say that there were no officers around to invite new people or something, but I was never in Nol myself so I can't say for sure.

So yeah, everybody get into :goon:Nol Vacancy:goon: for now. Sorry for the confusion.

Umberger
Jan 24, 2010

Protocol 5 posted:

Ruins is less stressful, though Cyclos and Kuklos hit really goddamn hard at that level. The real pain in the rear end is Crabatas with a huge amount of health who turtle up a lot. Lightning tech spam is highly recommended, and a fast hitting Shock II or III weapon will help a lot too. Dagachas and Dagashes both drop new rare talismans, the Dagash one is currently the second best available with 843 T-ATK at +10.

Being a Force, I've yet to do a run of Ruins without one, so Krabahda are not a problem at all. Cyclonehda spam is the thing that will kill people. I had one run where I got trapped in a Funji which spawned Dahgash, Dagacha and Krabahda inside, and because it spawned in a new area there were Cyclonehdas sniping it and a few Kuklonahdas wandered in. I died pretty fast.

I was also fortunate enough to get the new talis from a Dahgash. Yes, it is a miniature Dahgash, and yes you throw even smaller Dahgashes instead of cards.

From what I can tell on the wiki comments, Krabahda drop Divine Amaterasu (the new best 10* rod, only being outperformed by the hilariously expensive 11* XQ rod and Psycho Wand). AQ Ruins gives an absurd amount of stones and capsules too.

Sanctum is pretty ok. As far as I'm aware the boss drops aren't exactly stellar but there's the chance of Lambda Hellfret dropping and I'm sure there are at least a few unknown 56+ drops there. Bursts are a bit harder to get because of how many Dirandals spawn, but my group was still getting them fairly regularly and had a couple cross bursts. I feel like I got more capsules/stones there than any of the other c-AQs.

Haven't done City yet.

Umberger fucked around with this message at 16:36 on May 30, 2013

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


Rangers also have a good way of dealing with crabs- golf swing their launchers into the thing. It'll flip it guaranteed.

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Mediocrity Goggles
Mar 20, 2009

Looking at it the wrong way.

NextTime000 posted:

I forget why people left Nol Vacancy to begin with, I almost want to say that there were no officers around to invite new people or something, but I was never in Nol myself so I can't say for sure.

That's certainly not the case, literally every member was an officer, or at least at last time I messed with it months ago. I think it was just because everyone involved kinda quit playing at once, and people who don't play can't invite.

Also, I'm very unreliable when it comes to this game, so if someone at least semi-serious wants to take the reigns of this team away from me, I'd be more than happy, because I'm not really fit to lead it anymore

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