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Shofixti posted:I don't understand why it's so hard for laptop OEMs to make laptops of similar quality for similar prices. It seems like it took ages for them to start making some nice looking chassis but there's still usually something wrong with each model like a mushy keyboard, poor trackpad, crappy screen, flimsy body, etc. Are high end ThinkPads the only thing that compete? I guess it looks like that new Zenbook from Asus could fill that space too? (If you haven't already guessed, I'm looking for a good quality laptop this summer that isn't an Apple) You get what you pay for.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2013 17:47 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:20 |
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PC laptop manufacturers have effectively ruined themselves by refusing to put quality products on display in big box stores. After a lovely laptop buyer has had enough of either their lovely $500 crapbox or their overpriced Sony they're going to turn to what 'just works' and they'll just buy the Apple instead of ordering online.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2013 19:18 |
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768p is pretty good on 15.6" monitors for people with not so great eyesight which is what the market is planning for and not a bunch of turbonerds Edit: But as ^^^ said gently caress 16:9 on laptops forever and ever
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2013 04:33 |
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Don't waste money on a dedicated GPU in anything less than $1200 worth of laptop
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2013 20:53 |
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I imagine you could have some serious problems trying to install XP/drivers on laptops that were squarely never designed with XP in mind.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2013 17:16 |
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My Sager NP150 owns yall
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 04:36 |
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If you're married to getting a gaming laptop then go here. There are quite a few of us here with Clevo/Sager laptops that will walk you through the pros/cons
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 17:31 |
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NeoSeeker posted:Yeah I really don't care about having to lower settings or anything. And thinking about it more I guess you're right about it being to heavy and unwieldy. Although I do know about traveling weighed down by stuff, 8 pounds ain't poo poo. But I guess I'll just go with the lenovo Y500 and build a new machine before star citizen comes out. http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8250-clevo-p157sm-p-5839.html?wconfigure=yes
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 21:54 |
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Mutation posted:The Y500 has an SLI 750M now, which seems nice if you can get it for $900-$1000. The one universal no is SLI laptops
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 22:37 |
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I'm highly skeptical of 'gaming' laptops that lack any real cooling ability
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2013 19:24 |
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LurkingAsian posted:So I just ordered a Clevo W230ST from these guys. I don't have that model but I purchased a Sager NP9150 from Xoticpc almost a year ago and I have not been let down at all.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2013 17:43 |
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I was very impressed with the x230t a client wanted to try but man is the convertible thing almost entirely a solution looking for a problem.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 01:32 |
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fookolt posted:That's a drat shame. It's killing me to wait; I think I'm just going to get a MacBook Air and resell it if I need to when the new hot poo poo comes out from Samsung/Asus. I'm coming up on 1 year of my Clevo/Sager and couldn't be happier
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 13:47 |
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The T430 can be subjectively horrid but that doesn't stop this thread from recommending them out the wazoo
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 17:36 |
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InstantInfidel posted:It has objective problems, namely the screen quality and the poor GPU choices. However, the build quality, support, and thermals are all excellent, whereas Clevo sucks rear end at pretty much all three of those (the thermals on their massive 680M SLI machines are apparently pretty good, though). Their thermals on just a regular single dGPU machine are very good.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 17:59 |
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Frankie! posted:Lenovo Ideapad Y510 with Sli as a gaming/work laptop. Yea or nay? No because SLI'd laptops are bad and you're better off in 99.9999% of all situations going with a single dGPU solution. There are better ways to do this but is this something you really need? (Full disclosure: I own a $1700 'gaming' laptop and will attest to its virtues and vices)
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 21:23 |
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Sometimes people just want advice and not lectures on how they are using laptops wrong
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 23:19 |
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Save yourself thermal headaches and get a single card solution with the power you want and not SLI
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2013 19:52 |
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If it fits your price/size range, a few of us have Sager's and are quite pleased with them. I'm actually working on a one year review post of mine.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2013 22:19 |
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You should literally never buy anything because it will be eclipsed at some point plus you are a terrible person for not doing it my way. - The Laptop Megathread, 2013
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 16:09 |
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As promised, ONE YEAR LATER, the Sager NP9150 from xoticpc.com Full disclosure: I own and manage an IT MSP/Consulting firm and have worked in IT for 17 years. My experience and comfort level with computers could be described as "high" Important Specs: Intel i7-3610QM 16GB RAM nVidia 675M Intel Ultimate-N WiFi Adapter 1920x1080 Matte 95% whizbang display Seagate XT 500GB Hybrid Price: $1619 Why I wanted a gaming laptop: I wanted something with the performance of a desktop replacement for when I need to do VM/video work and I missed PC gaming. While I do have an actual workstation in my office, I am physically there maybe 1/3rd of the week, the rest is spent at client's offices. So, my work needs to go with me. At home I surrendered my office to my wife for storage room, and because I am a well-adjusted and redeemable individual, I don't want to be squirreled away in another room away from my family. So its the living room while the kids play Xbox or in bed while my wife sleeps. Why I went with a Sager from xoticpc.com: I spent about 3 months reviewing the options and the Sager was the only one that gave me the performance I wanted with the aesthetics. Flat black all the way around except the monitor bezel, no labeling and no stupid lights. The nVidia 675M is more than capable of playing the games I wanted at the time(Skyrim/Mass Effect 3) and still runs Planetside 2 like a champ. Problems: 1. About 3 weeks in the monitor began to appear 'scrambled' when tilted at certain angles. I diagnosed this as a problem with the cable routing through the right hinge, disassembled the laptop down to that level, re-ran the cable and voila, the problem is fixed. 2. 6 months in the interal headphone jack broke stopped working. I didn't think the audio quality was that stellar to begin with so I ordered a Turtle Beach Amigo II USB Adapter and wow. The quality is about a million times better and I don't think I'll ever use integrated audio for headphones on any laptop again. How it travels: The laptop rides in a Case Logic sleeve inside my messenger bag with power brick, mouse and other assorted items. No, I don't find the weight bothersome. Wear and Breakage: No chips, no cracks, no breaks. I have worn the finish off the palmrest a bit when using it as a makeshift mousepad though. What I think of the features: - Screen: Amazing. Probably the best non-Retina display I've run into. I recommend to anyone that will listen that you purchase screen upgrades because nothing will make you hate a laptop more than a bad screen. All the performance and warranty service in the world won't matter if they have to stare at something they hate. - Keyboard and Trackpad: Meh. At this point I type on so many different keyboards I don't care. I also rarely use the trackpad as I carry a mouse. The trackpad is 'servicable', which is how I'd describe any non-Apple trackpad. In my opinion there are two tiers, Apple and the rest. This is not an Apple. - WiFi: Never not getting the upgraded WiFi again. It continually amazes me how far this thing can reach. - Fit and Finish: Good. It isn't a mid-2000s ThinkPad, but neither are new ThinkPads now. It definitely isn't $399 Acer quality. It 'feels', to me atleast, better than a Latitude E65xx - Thermal design: Two bottom mounted fans, left and right blowing through pretty beefy heatsinks that exhaust out the back. Fan placement means you need a solid surface for heavy gaming/processor work otherwise you'll have no air flow. Cleaning is pretty simple. 6 screws to remove the bottom panel, 4 to remove each heat sink assembly. Blow it out, clean up the thermal paste/reapply and reassemble. I've done this twice since we have a cat just as a precaution. The fans will get loud at max RPM but it does work. You will not burn yourself on either the bottom or the keyboard and there will only be noticeable warmth after heavy usage. Complaints: 3 USB ports, 2 on the left, 1 on the right. I wish there was one rear mounted USB port. Also, I'd prefer a rear mounted NIC(it is on the left). Would I do this again: Yes, I would. Infact, I'll probably replace this August 2014. I do not have trouble recommending this laptop to anyone with similar usage criteria and have done so in the thread repeatedly.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 17:14 |
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Protocol7 posted:I'm sure you think your little quip is extremely witty but it isn't, especially since it's completely valid to recommend against buying a laptop right now since Haswell is still being rolled out. This isn't about Haswell. Its about the same people parroting the same disingenuous bullshit because occasionally people want different laptops than they do.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 17:24 |
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be nice wicka posted:Does anyone want to take a stab at explaining this keyboard layout: http://i.imgur.com/HXB49A2.jpg UK keyboard
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2013 18:53 |
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be nice wicka posted:Do you think that model (S400CA-DB51T) only comes with a UK keyboard or is that just the one they happened to take the promo shots of? Looks like they were just lazy with the promo shots. Asus's US website takes you to Amazon with the S400CA-DB51T selected. The UK model looks to be S400CA-CA***H
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2013 19:06 |
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BabyRyoga posted:Im actually thinking of getting this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312834 With only a few well-engineered exceptions, SLI laptops have severe thermal issues, so much that your laptop will be forced to throttle down.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2013 16:58 |
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If youre going to use a laptop for more than 5 minutes just buy a loving mouse
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 18:20 |
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Requested_Username posted:So I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and I was hoping to get a recommendation from the thread. I want something high end, with good gaming capabilities. Obviously I don't need it to run Metro: Last Light on super ultra 16x AA setting, but something that can play recent games and make them look good. Price range is up to $2000, give or take a couple hundred depending on if it's really worth the extra money. Entry level 'gaming' laptop seems to be the Lenovo Y410P/510P. Past that you are looking at Alienware/Sager/Asus/MSI/Razer. What you need to figure out is just what size screen and how much performance you really want, and we can make recommendations. FYI, here is my post I made earlier this month concerning my Sager NP9150 Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Aug 30, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 19:04 |
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Requested_Username posted:17' screens seem like overkill to me, 15' seems like it'd be solid, give or take. I'd rather not get something that weighs 12 lbs and is covered in s1ck LED enhancement lights for optical gaming refraction or whatever. Colored keyboard illumination is fine of course. in terms of power it's really as much as I can get for up to $2k without being a complete and total rip off. The Sager NP8265 is probably as 'normal' looking as you will get in a 15.6" gaming laptop. Also, do not go with AMD graphics.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 19:28 |
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Blurb posted:Seems to me bang for buck this is probably the best off the shelf mid priced gaming laptop around at the moment too. Placing an order tonight. I cannot recommend enough that you get the upgraded screen and Intel wireless. Requested_Username posted:I'm a little new to xoticPC, does the "No Operating System Standard - Drivers (Windows 7 & 8) + Utility Software Only" option mean that I need to install my own OS on it when it arrives? Correct. Choose that option if you can provide your own license. IMO RAID is not needed. Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 31, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 31, 2013 16:43 |
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If you havent ignored sports at this point I don't know what to tell you
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2013 04:49 |
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Aphrodite posted:I can't wait for their 10 inch tablet collaboration with Amazon, the Yoga Fire. And the 7" variant, the Yoga Flame
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2013 18:18 |
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DNova posted:I hope the label on the drive is just black text on white, "HARD DRIVE" DRIVE, HARD MARK 1 DO NOT EAT
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2013 14:52 |
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I really want to watch you goofy shits constantly trying to use touchscreens on a non-convertible laptop just so I can get a good laugh.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2013 15:40 |
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Seriously, we know. Lenovo makes a great laptop but everything else about the process is poo poo.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2013 16:19 |
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Welp, trusting the Lenovo shipping lottery. Ordered a Y410p for my son.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 18:00 |
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The worst part about the touchscreen based UI is just how much of your already precious real estate is getting wasted
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 22:51 |
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Welp, screen or connector is borked on my son's Y410p. Guess we'll see how good(bad) Lenovo's depot service is.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2014 00:28 |
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Srebrenica Surprise posted:but nVidia bile drivers are frustratingly horrible and cause issues. Fwiw in a year and half of ownership I haven't had a single issue with my 675m. GPUs really are voodoo.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2014 01:09 |
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Jesus Christ install Windows 7 if you want because some trivial improvements are not worth you not enjoying your computing experience, nerd rage be damned.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2014 21:13 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:20 |
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Ironically my Lenovo(non-Think) support experience was pretty nice
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2014 18:47 |