Worthleast posted:

In total agreement here.

"He blasphemed the Virgin Mary, and his mouth was turned into a rectum." - The Golden Legend

Keromaru5 posted:

The memes back then would have been the dankest.

Cythereal posted:

You liturgicals are weird.

Lutha Mahtin posted:

delaying full adult membership into the church until the congregant's balls/ovaries drop is just so out there, i know. having kids go to class and take tests, instead of having them say a few words with the pastor before they get the full-dunk.....wow, super wacky. and teaching the kids with a little book that conveniently lays out all our beliefs???? totally amirite

WerrWaaa posted:

Okay. I hang out with a bunch of seminary/PhD educated Episcopalians (I am at the low and of this spectrum). Tonight at our regular get together there was another gentleman, an old classmate of a friend, who believes that Adam and Eve were real historical people. How do I disavow him of this belief, and get him to... understand truth as it is expressed in both science and theology. I am mystified by this sort of biblicism even though it is what I was raised with. That took decades of subtle fiendish temptation to overcome. I mean, I want to be understanding, but I don't know how to talk to someone who rejects every serious breakthrough since, who, Augustine?

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Often, a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances, … and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, which people see as ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn.

The shame is not so much that an ignorant person is laughed at, but rather that people outside the faith believe that we hold such opinions, and thus our teachings are rejected as ignorant and unlearned. If they find a Christian mistaken in a subject that they know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions as based on our teachings, how are they going to believe these teachings in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think these teachings are filled with fallacies about facts which they have learnt from experience and reason.

Reckless and presumptuous expounders of Scripture bring about much harm when they are caught in their mischievous false opinions by those not bound by our sacred texts. And even more so when they then try to defend their rash and obviously untrue statements by quoting a shower of words from Scripture and even recite from memory passages which they think will support their case ‘without understanding either what they are saying or what they assert with such assurance.’

WerrWaaa posted:

Next Q: has anyone had success setting up a prayer space in their home? I've had some difficulty sticking to daily morning prayer. I know that the difficulty is entirely mine, but, if I can create a space that lends itself to the discipline, I might have more luck taming my will. My inclination is to build some sort of prayer kneeler and add some icons, but I think that is trusting in objects too much.

Smoking Crow posted:

This thread is getting a new edition today make your peace

HEY GAL posted:

i said you can make a new thread but when the page number had something important to do with the history of the church, what did u pick

Smoking Crow posted:

Chalcedon, 451

I was tired of waiting

Smoking Crow posted:

Chalcedon, 451

I was tired of waiting

The Canons of Chalcedon posted:

Following in every way the decrees of the holy fathers and recognising the canon which has recently been read out—the canon of the 150 most devout bishops who assembled in the time of the great Theodosius of pious memory, then emperor, in imperial Constantinople, new Rome — we issue the same decree and resolution concerning the prerogatives of the most holy church of the same Constantinople, new Rome. The fathers rightly accorded prerogatives to the see of older Rome, since that is an imperial city; and moved by the same purpose the 150 most devout bishops apportioned equal prerogatives to the most holy see of new Rome, reasonably judging that the city which is honoured by the imperial power and senate and enjoying privileges equalling older imperial Rome, should also be elevated to her level in ecclesiastical affairs and take second place after her. The metropolitans of the dioceses of Pontus, Asia and Thrace, but only these, as well as the bishops of these dioceses who work among non-Greeks, are to be ordained by the aforesaid most holy see of the most holy church in Constantinople. That is, each metropolitan of the aforesaid dioceses along with the bishops of the province ordain the bishops of the province, as has been declared in the divine canons; but the metropolitans of the aforesaid dioceses, as has been said, are to be ordained by the archbishop of Constantinople, once agreement has been reached by vote in the usual way and has been reported to him..

HEY GAL posted:

i said you can make a new thread but when the page number had something important to do with the history of the church, what did u pick

System Metternich posted:

Okay!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSJ7LqZLYQ

Historical recreation of a c. 1450 Mass by a Swedish priest

Also have a terrible and error-laden listicle about "lost traditions of the Catholic Church"

Paramemetic posted:

Do we have anyone who can perform the rites for this thread?

Paramemetic posted:

Do we have anyone who can perform the rites for this thread?

Paramemetic posted:

Do we have anyone who can perform the rites for this thread?

HEY GAL posted:

translatio imperii, the new thread will be exactly the same as the old one

WerrWaaa posted:

Next Q: has anyone had success setting up a prayer space in their home? I've had some difficulty sticking to daily morning prayer. I know that the difficulty is entirely mine, but, if I can create a space that lends itself to the discipline, I might have more luck taming my will. My inclination is to build some sort of prayer kneeler and add some icons, but I think that is trusting in objects too much.

HEY GAL posted:

translatio imperii, the new thread will be exactly the same as the old one

Cythereal posted:

Sic transit gloria mundi.

Tias posted:

I'll get in some syncretic christian love, then!

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pictured: A christian, probably

The Belgian posted: