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Milky Moor posted:That quote does not say that Taylor is morally justified. In fact, it says the opposite. "It is okay to be a bad person if there are other people who you think are worse than you". Jesus Christ you're fuckin insufferable
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Calef posted:Compare: "It is okay to be a bad person if there are other people who you think are worse than you". It's almost like he's just an rear end in a top hat
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Aug 13, 2017 04:21
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Thank Christ you're here to explain this to us all, thank you for taking time out of your day oh wise master
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Aug 13, 2017 04:31
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berenzen posted:An optimistic ending isn't necessarily a happy ending either. Taylor had to lose literally everything in order to realize that she was a completely unrepentant monster, and is only starting to repair the burned bridges with her father. She realizes she was a complete utter and unrepentant monster that wrought more destruction than built anything, and is still struggling with the guilt of that. That's not exactly a happy ending. Also, calling the scene with her alternate Earth mom a family reunion is massively stupid because it's not a reunion. She's never met this woman before, shes basically approaching a stranger and hoping she doesn't get pushed away. Her dad doesnt even go over because it hurts too much to see her But that's a happy family reunion I guess because we're all wrong about worm
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Aug 13, 2017 04:33
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Anyway twig rules
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Aug 13, 2017 04:39
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Dauntless would also be super boring in a fight and half the fun of worm was the people with very useless sounding abilities actually being terrifying as gently caress even against a man who could turn into a dragon
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Aug 13, 2017 11:23
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Neurosis posted:i dunno. maybe they could his equipment all sorts of whacky abilities that weren't explored in the original. I'm o sure Wildbow has said that while he has some psychological control over how the powers manifest they all tend towards direct combat stuff Also he could easily become just straight broken by the end and not in an interesting way
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Aug 13, 2017 17:46
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Mad Hamish posted:What is it about Worm in particular that facilitates this sort of discussion? I never see people doing this for Pact. Unsong seems too fuckin weird
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Aug 13, 2017 20:08
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Reading chapter one of Unsong and it's weird as hell but gods name ends "meh meh meh meh meh meh" and that rules
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Aug 13, 2017 20:13
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CaptainJuan posted:Unsong is a spec fic serial for people who love shaggy dog stories and awful puns That sounds dope actually
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Aug 13, 2017 21:19
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Am I reading twig right (part six) did Jamie just come out to Sy and admit that he has a thing for him
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Aug 14, 2017 00:18
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Silver2195 posted:Correct. Poor Jamie
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Milky Moor posted:Nah, it kinds of makes the whole thing a bit laughable if her flaws are things that allow her to save the world and the whole narrative (and, indeed, world) is constructed that it's the only way things could've happened. I've always found Taylor's attempt at pathos towards the end, where she muses that she would do things differently and heroically if she could do it all again, really weak. Because it's like, okay, you do that, Scion wins. Now what, Taylor? uh not necessarily? things play out the way they do because of what happens in the first arc, if she never joins the undersiders who knows how poo poo goes but you're the guy who argued that getting double tapped and sneaking away to a world where you know one person and also you've lost an arm and have a lovely prosthetic (and it is, because the epilogue mentions her having to use her other arm to get it in her pocket) and the one thing that gave you meaning and your last line is hoping that someday you'll figure out how to be okay is a happy ending so no poo poo you're a flaming idiot
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Aug 15, 2017 03:35
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Milky Moor posted:I'm not convinced that nothing Taylor did ever mattered because if she joined the Wards or whatever she'd still end up in the exact same position to defeat Scion with the exact same capabilities is the right argument to make but, hey. Someone she thinks is Regent, or the Aleph version of him, not necessarily the one she knew, also lmao at you insisting that having a prosthetic means she isn't still missing an arm Also no you changed your mind to say it was optimistic after other people pointed out you were confusing that for happy
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Also there's no guarantee that any of the events of the story up to and including jack turning Scion would have happened the way they did or at all if it wasn't for her decision to join the Undersiders, that's kinda one of the themes of the book: actions have consequences and some of them you can't see coming no matter how hard you try Like Taylor doesn't join, the bank robbery fails (possibly, all of this is just a possibly), the Undersiders don't get in a fight WTH Bakuda, the ABB war never kicks off, which means Leviathan isn't attracted to the city, holy poo poo one giant calamity already doesn't happen, maybe, because of one decision I'd keep going but besides the very end I don't remember much of it and I'm only up to the Leviathan arc in my reread BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Milky Moor posted:Imagine I posted some words wondering how you reconcile this with Cauldron/PTV/yadda yadda yadda and the fact that the text of Worm posits that there is no such thing as free will. Worm doesn't posit that free will is a myth. Nobody has perfect sight of the future except the simurgh, everyone else is shooting the odds. Even Contessa has blind spots. Also lmao that you simultaneously acknowledge that most of the info we get is ubrelaible as poo poo while proclaiming yourself to be perfectly correct about the story
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To try to move this away from the most interminable philospohical argument in recorded history Im just wrapping up arc 6 of twig and holy poo poo is the Duke terrifying. Just a superhuman royal with no fucks to give about anyone else, nobody to tell him no I guess I never thought about what the broader society was like, with the focus on the lambs and their missions, but goddamn Also poor Jamie. Poor Gordon. E. I WROTE THAT BEFORE THE END OF 6.13 WHAT THE gently caress WILDBOW WHT YOU GITTA DO THIS BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Aug 15, 2017 23:45
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How old are the Lambs supposed to be? I just got to the start of arc 8 and I'm having a hell of a time pinning it down
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Aug 18, 2017 12:43
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Namarrgon posted:There's usually something like half a year to a year between arcs so that's no surprise. At the start of 8 Lillian mentions being fifteen, so that at least gives me a physical age to pin to the Lambs for now Also gently caress this Lillian and Sy poo poo Sy/Mary OTP
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Aug 18, 2017 13:51
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Arc 7 is a motherfucker too
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Aug 20, 2017 20:48
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Twig is goddamn amazing and Wildbow's best work to date by far, and I'm in the party that loved Worm both for Taylor's steady descent and for the This Is How People Get Involved With Gangs Allegory. For real The back quarter or so of 7 with the arrival of Jamie 2.0 and Ashton was actually loving crushing, watching Sy deal with the first thing in there And the Interlude from all the different POVs was fantastic
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Polite request please tag your spoilers for Twig with at least an arc number
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no no no no no we are not doing this argument shut the gently caress up
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