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Thanks for starting this and linking Worm, I'm reading it now and it's great.
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hollylolly posted:I can't stop reading Worm and I totally blame this thread for the lack of sleep. This is me, and I just caught up a couple of days ago. Friday and Monday nights are now the best nights.
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Jul 8, 2013 10:04
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Well tonight's update certainly made up for however week 25.6 was. Good character building too.
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Jul 16, 2013 09:22
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Saint is such an rear end.
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Jul 28, 2013 04:14
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hollylolly posted:Grey Boy's loops still continue to exist even though he doesn't, right? Right.
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Aug 18, 2013 20:20
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berenzen posted:Well, I suppose that just happened. If there's any point that Skitter's going to have her second trigger, it'd probably be right about now. During Scion's update it seems that she was basically on the verge of it happening, plus the fact that she's come to terms with the passenger and herself- which was apparently one of the things keeping her back, and she was just abandoned by pretty well everyone. I hope so. I'd really like her to have a power up and be a heavy hitter or something. Edit: Also, here is some surely incorrect theorizing: Well here goes with my interpretation of the various roles. Ive combined both what this arc chapter specifies as well as what the role means in a general or historical sense, at least as I believe it to be. Fairy queen: Glaistig Uaine Queen administrator: Taylor Champion: Chevalier or Legend. Leaning to the former due to the latters involvement with Cauldron. Defiant is out due to his fall and redemption cycle ill fitting this persona and Grue is too damaged and unknown (comparably). Helping to keep the court on the path set by the high priest. Consistently noble, fighting for their cause/side/faith. A standard to which others aspire. Skill in arms, skill in leadership. Protection of those in need. Inspiring. High priest: Scion or Jack. Leaning towards Scion as Jack is out of commission, and while Scion could (I believe) neutralize Gray Boys loop of Jack, it doesnt resolve the latters being anything but a catalyst. Another set piece if you will. Initiator of the conflict. Deserving of Respect. Is not fully apprised of what the main group is doing/conspiring. Not in communication. Is rigid and putting on an act, wears mask(s) to hide his/her true self. S/he who sets events in motion. Did expect a new play, but now there is no finale. Interface between man and the divine. Keeper of the faith/secrets/mysteries. Interprets Gods will and/or words to the world. Observer: Dinah. Opposite the Champion in keeping the act in motion. Watcher. Neutral. Witness. Arbiter. Shaper: Riley or Panacea. Helps clean up the aftermath of the Act. Ability to shape, given the context of the zenith of this Act, humans. To further elucidate, the planet is a mess with hundreds of millions dead. The core of the defense and vision consists of parahumans, very few in number and in immediate vicinity to the Acts culmination. This suggests that the Shaper is directly related to them and their cause. Demesne-keeper: Labyrinth. Demesne means manorial land actually possessed by the lord and not held by tenants. Bear this in mind when interpreting this persons identity and role. is the lord the same or other than the high priest? is the lord even a person? Is it the species? And with tenants being humans does that rule out this Earth plane? I dont know if I err or not by excluding Cauldron capes. I do believe at this point, though, that they are the Antagonists if this story and Scion will ultimately redeem and grow/learn/evolve. Cauldron are the other court and the final conflict will be the two courts in battle Fellwenner fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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Aug 22, 2013 11:02
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Dietrich posted:Scion Listened to Jack, maybe because he got the Communicator shard. I figured it was because [spoiler]with the death of the thinker worm Scion's point of existence thus far ended and he was at a loss, and this is how he begins to evolve again. How is he to know what morality is?/spoiler]
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Aug 22, 2013 13:28
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If this doesn't give Taylor some sort of 2nd trigger power-up I don't think anything will.
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Aug 24, 2013 05:53
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So next update is an interlude ... who have we not gotten yet? Perhaps a Glaistig one?
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Aug 25, 2013 07:05
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thespaceinvader posted:I'm fairly sure I heard mention somewhere that there aren't going to be any more interludes until the epilogue, but that any donation-extras will instead simply be extra chapters - which is borne out by Thursday. Based off of this: wildbow posted:
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Aug 26, 2013 08:35
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Skippy McPants posted:27.5; Yeah, and I guess Bonesaw herself has been rendered in twain before. Although she already had enhancements to minimize damage when it happened. Taylor's more or less normal physical makeup means her aorta is severed and she's probably about a minute or two away from permanent brain damage. It could be one of those things that progresses the story, simply from a different set of eyes. Here's hoping.
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Aug 26, 2013 11:56
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qntm posted:Wait, where's this from? Comments on the parahumans site.
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Aug 31, 2013 01:31
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Can you get a browser window on your kindle or phone? You could just read it that way. It's how I read a good portion of it.
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Sep 2, 2013 09:28
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Pierson posted:All-purpose thread I will save you from turning into the Worm thread. The only other one I've read was Interviewing Leather and it wasn't too bad.
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Sep 3, 2013 09:25
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thespaceinvader posted:5 endbringers is obvious. 5 groups, I don't think we actually know yet, but... Undersiders, PRT/Protectorate/Wards, Cauldron, Thanda, Yangban? Weren't the Thanda gathered under Cauldron's umbrella? I'd think a likely 5th group would be the Irregulars.
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Sep 4, 2013 08:32
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veekie posted:Agreed, we never really got the Taylor-as-Ward experience, and her relationship with the Protectorate is...thin at best. We skipped over most of a year of character development there. That arc really only needed 3 or 4 extra chapters to work better.
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Sep 4, 2013 14:23
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packsmack posted:I think it was definitely the pacing that was the problem. A common theme to some of wildbow's comments have been that he is still a junior author. I think he must want to get to his next project. I hope that if he ever does officially publish that he goes back and fleshes some things out a little and makes transitions between arcs flow. I wish s/he would just take a vacation or something for a week or two, or maybe pull a Sanderson and work on something else to clear the head.
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Sep 5, 2013 09:08
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I like these last couple of chapters. Got a real Undersiders feel to it, from back in the beginning. It struck me that Taylor really is like Jack Slash, only without the joyful homicides. Seemed much more apparent, having to manage difficult, violent personalities. Also got another hint of something between Tattletale and Taylor, or is that just me? SerSpook posted:Does anyone have a theory on what the gently caress is up with Sleeper? There was a comment on the Worm site indicating that would get attention in a sequel.
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Sep 10, 2013 09:59
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Skippy McPants posted:I want to do a second read through, but I'm forcing myself you wait until it's been fully edited. Otherwise I'll end up reading it a third time! Yes, and the rate at which Wildbow writes I doubt that it would take very long for this editing to happen. What he (she?) decides to do with it afterward is the question. Self publish, mainstream publisher...?
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Sep 11, 2013 11:10
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thespaceinvader posted:And Eidolon could have done exactly the same to her, at the end of his life... I know she, now, is likely the single most powerful, but she wasn't always. But yeah, she's scary as hell, if you think she probably now has Gavel's power, Eidolon's power, various of the power-combining things... Yowsa. I do wonder if she's related to the third entity rather than either of the first two. Maybe that's one way that they could win. GU harvests enough to be make up for the loss of the dead worm and Scion just lets that be the cycle. Although it does look like it's shaping up for Taylor to pull some perfect planning out or something.
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Sep 21, 2013 14:05
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Well, Cuff sure has come a long ways.
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Sep 28, 2013 09:37
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That's how I took it as well. As for SS, I think she's going to be straight up this time.
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Oct 1, 2013 08:54
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Or it could be changed in editing after it's done.
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Oct 7, 2013 09:13
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 pretty much sums that up nicely.One of the commenters on the site brought up the hidden gun that the Simurgh created. That could be interesting. Kapow, right to the avatar.
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Oct 15, 2013 09:35
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SerSpook posted:Because her shard gives a similar combat advantage, as said by Golem when he compared Jack's thinker ability to Taylor's. It was reflected on by Taylor at some point that her hyper-awareness of everything around her through the fine control of her bugs gave her an advantage. Minute detail stuff like bits of airflow, trajectory, etc.
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Oct 16, 2013 08:59
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Well, I was paraphrasing, so could have gotten some details off.
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Oct 16, 2013 09:42
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I guess the PRT is going to have to update their master rating of Taylor now.
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Oct 17, 2013 08:56
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That was an intense chapter. I keep thinking that we've finally hit the nadir, it's all good from now on, but then Wildbow happens.
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Oct 24, 2013 09:16
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That just further emphasizes the need to expand the Arc containing Weaver's time within the Wards program. There's just too much of a gap there.
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Oct 24, 2013 12:18
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Piell posted:I really, really doubt that most people will be OK with what happened and wouldn't be surprised if they tried to kill her immediately upon being released. quote:Can you imagine it? You could use your power, and then we could make one superperson out of a hundred capes, and all of the powers would be full strength because you helped and we could use it to stop one of the Endbringers, and the whole world would be like, Are we supposed to clap? Can you picture it? Bonesaw was getting so excited with her idea that she was almost breathless. I doubt it'll work out so 'nicely' as this.
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Oct 24, 2013 14:58
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I was hoping for some sort of happy ending. The epilogues will change the tone, but as it stands it's just sad and kind of tragic.
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Oct 29, 2013 14:13
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NecroMonster posted:The more I try to convince myself that Taylor is dead the less and less I am able to. Contessa can as good as read Taylor's mind "Didnt deserve to, either way." is the answer that she got, and it's at least to Taylor, an honest one. It's also very indicative of Taylor's self doubt and self questioning. Then you have the two bullets, and The Simurgh. If the Simurgh wanted Taylor dead, she wouldn't have fired a blow-dryer at Taylor, let alone a blow-dryer that Taylor dodged, she could have easily used her Telekinetic abilities and her amazingly powerful senses to kill Taylor then and there, but she didn't. Instead she seems to have altered Taylor's course to point her toward Glaistig. So either Taylor is alive, or the meeting with Taylor was used as a method of effecting Contessa somehow. I'm pretty much with you on this one. There are parallels with the Echidna encounter, in which a person uses their shard, becomes subsumed by it and needs to be dealt with. Noelle at the end gives in and the shard bears out her memories and perceived injustices while speaking with Sundancer and stating its purpose; it is consumed with eating everyone in the world and making them pay. Noelle were she in her right mind wouldn't purposefully do such a thing, but her shard would. There's no Noelle left, no humanity or morality. Taylor meanwhile uses her shard in much the same way that Noelle did and that extensive use coupled with mental and physical damages eventually gives control to the shard. It immediately perceives the world in much the same way as Echidna did, through how to achieve the goals of peace, cooperation, control. Things proceed, but during the encounter with G.U., in a moment of conflict between host and passenger, the remaining members of her swarm are freed, whether by the shard being convinced by Taylor or Taylor wresting control back I don't know. At the end Taylor is lost, confused, and most importantly introspective and regretful. I don't see that as anything but human and is in keeping with Taylor's personality. Potential S-class threat which needs to be dealt with for the greater good is understandable, but I just see a different divergence here which makes the turn towards Taylor simply being killed wholly unnecessary. The two bullets issue is laid to rest when the S9 clones are given as an example of Contessa previously double tapping. The part I question is why was the second bullets purpose stated as being to prevent pain? I don't understand that. What's the point? There's maybe a second before the second bullet is fired and she'd be dead regardless. NecroMonster posted:And why create so drat much ambiguity at Taylor's fate at the end if there is no chance that she actually survived. Agreed wholeheartedly. True, there are six installments left and anything could happen, but this was billed as being 'The End' and should be totally unambiguous.
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I guess we disagree for now. What I'm referring to in this regard is the newest name that Contessa gave her and its meaning, plus the wording of the small two bullets paragraph. I don't think either are clear cut, although I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it turns out to be nothing at all.
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Oct 30, 2013 12:49
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He's outstripped most of them: http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/node/1869 Pretty much on par with GRRM up to date, in a fraction of the time. Fellwenner fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Nov 1, 2013 14:02
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Well you got me there.
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Nov 1, 2013 14:55
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Tollymain posted:So I'm guessing that Wildbow has been moving away from Thursday updates because they are working on their next new thing in part? I thought I read it somewhere, but I can't remember so I'm not going to outright assume. Something like that. quote:WyldCard4 on November 5, 2013 at 12:45 AM said:
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Nov 8, 2013 19:14
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Katreus posted:^^ Edit: They basically are sequel hooks. Yeah, that's what I'm finding annoying about these epilogues. I was hoping for some Taylor closure and she's still been barely mentioned. This story / universe is well enough written that sequel hooks aren't really needed at all.
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Nov 16, 2013 21:00
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thespaceinvader posted:I have to agree that this wasn't my favourite of the bonus epilogue chapters - that was probably Imp's. I thought there were supposed to be 8 coming though - we're only on 5 right now. Nope, just one more update left.
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Nov 17, 2013 17:46
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Didn't really reach out and grab me, but it was interesting nonetheless. I liked it.
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Which genre is Face supposed to be, again?
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