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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

KingAsmo posted:

Hey guys I've been on a two year long sci-fi binge and I'm running out of ideas for what to read next, was hoping you had some suggestions for me.

I would really like something with cyberpunk elements but also with strong prose and that has been written recently enough to extrapolate contemporary technology in to the future. I'm cool with anything from contemporary to the distant future as far as setting goes. Needs to be available in audiobook.

I think what I am looking for is something covering similar subject matter to Altered Carbon if that makes sense. I really like stuff with biotech implants, computer viruses, hacking, designer drugs, virtual reality, etc.

As far as the writing style, I really liked Dune, Hyperion and Neuromancer.

I am also really in to Neil Stephenson for his immense research and detail and whatever I read next I would like for it to be long as I primarily listen to Audiobooks at work and I want something that will last a few days at least.

I like Vernor Vinge but I found Rainbows End to be a little too... silly? Liked the tech but looking for something darker. Gibson is great but I thought Pattern Recognition was a little dull and low on technology futurism stuff. I intend to read Broken Angels (Kovachs 2) but I'd like to try a different author first since I just finished Altered Carbon.

Give Charles Stross a try - you might like him.

Additionally, even though it doesn't meet all your criteria, I'd recommend Ken MacLeod's Fall Revolution series, The Night Sessions, and The Restoration Game. Here's a decent summary of his style:

quote:

His novels often explore socialist, communist and anarchist political ideas, most particularly the variants of Trotskyism and anarcho-capitalism or extreme economic libertarianism. Technical themes encompass singularities, divergent human cultural evolution and post-human cyborg-resurrection.

You've kind of already covered the big hitters, so I think you'll have to branch out a bit.

Edit: Oh, and check out "Otherland" by Tad Williams and see if that interests you. Honestly I never ended up finishing the series but I liked the first two books well enough.

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Swan was really a detriment to 2312. Kim came up with this fascinating world and decided to show it through the lens of a grumpy, impulsive, combative and selfish child suffering from an entirely unsympathetic case of boredom.

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jun 30, 2013

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

You're doing yourself a disservice if you avoid self-published books as a rule. If you don't want to bother curating them yourself (I don't blame you) at least pick up on some of the suggestions.

And, no, the publisher's job isn't to "pick out quality stories". That's crazy and you know it.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

General Battuta posted:

There's too much genuinely good writing out there (much of it, alas, not SF/F) to waste time on self-published work.

That's a lovely way to look at it. Good writing is good writing, whether it's from a self-published nobody or a published author.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Nondescript Van posted:

I'm a big fan of Alastair Reynolds and i've read and really liked pretty (almost) everything he has written. I wasn't a fan of terminal world because I don't like steampunk

I'm looking for an author or book(s) in a similar fashion. I've seen a few suggestions throughout the thread but I don't know where to start. I'd prefer it be kept in the hard scifi genre since I enjoy the plausible future of humanity angle and I think no FTL travel makes things a bit more interesting.

Deepness in the Sky and Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge would both fit the bill.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

andrew smash posted:

I don't get the atheist pagan part. Is that like telling mom that if dad doesn't have to go to the saturnalia neither do you?

I don't believe in gods.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Darth Walrus posted:

Vinge does creepy? Interesting.

Not really. Richard Paul Russo does creepy, though. Try Ship of Fools.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

What's up with the weird-rear end availability of Iain Bank's books in Kindle format? I want to continue the Culture series with Excession, but while all the other books are available that one isn't.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Scalzi seems to be much better at publicizing himself than he is at writing. I enjoyed reading the first book of the Old Man's War series, but he hasn't seemed to have grown as a writer since then.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Vinterstum posted:

I actually enjoyed the contrast between Swan and Wahram quite a bit. One side showing the self-indulgence that a post-scarcity society could allow, the other showing the selfless devotion to causes enabled by the same thing. The Culture novels sometimes play on this as well.

I think this nails it. Calling it a contrast between mercurial and saturnine temperaments is way off mark, even if that's what the author intended. Willy Wonka is mercurial, Swan is self-indulgent and immature (by our standards, and based on everyone else she pisses off throughout the story by their standards too).

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I think Dust adequately takes the series to the conclusion the previous books were setting it up for. It did feel a little rushed, but then again I don't think adding more to it would have been appropriate.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

General Battuta posted:

Yes, loads. How new are you talking? If you mean new-new, then in the long form, people are fond of Hannu Rajaniemi and Ekaterina Sedia. If you're willing to read short, I'd push Yoon Ha Lee. You should pick Ted Chiang's collection 'Story of Your Life And Others' even though it's not that new.

If "Story of Your Life" doesn't wring tears out of you you're a monster. That was my favorite story out of the collection although every one of them is good.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

systran posted:

It's free to read too:

http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm#Prologue

I believe this link is okay; if it's not please feel free to tell me and I will edit it out.

Yes the link to the author's own webpage is okay.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The thing that bothers me most in science fiction is characters experiencing metaphysical revelations about the universe relayed as lengthy and rambling stream-of-consciousness passages. I'm on book 2 of the Galactic Center Saga and I'm kind of regretting it.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

General Battuta posted:

Was that the part with the axe rising and falling and the sentence running on forever and and? I hated that.

I don't think that's the first time and it's certainly not the last. I'm getting flashbacks to Endymion.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The Washington Post says "This is a sci-fi novel!"

I hope he finds a new blurb for the cover.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Lex Talionis posted:

If you don't mind more overtly religious material, there's The Sparrow by Maria Doria Russell.

I don't think calling The Sparrow "overtly religious material" a la CS Lewis' books really describes it too well in comparison. It's very, very critical.

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 13, 2013

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

On the other hand, though, the protagonist is a literal Jesuit missionary to an alien race. You don't get much more "I am writing about religion" than that -- even C.S. Lewis's stuff does more to hide the ball ("That's totally not a cross! It's a stone table! Bet you never saw that coming!")

The important distinction, to me, is that The Sparrow directly confronts and deconstructs religious philosophy while C.S. Lewis uses allegory (or supposition, according to him). I think they end up being very different in practice and The Sparrow definitely isn't going to have the reader going "waaaait, this book is about Jesus, isn't it?".

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Man, Gregory Benford's Galactic Center series gets waaaaaay better after the 2nd book. I don't know what the hell happened, he just goes in a completely different direction and it's so much better than the first two.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Also, you're not going to find anything close to The Gap Cycle in sci-fi. It's thoroughly unique.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Abandon ship.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I wish I could extract the image of a cat licking cream out of a saucer from my mind.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

General Battuta posted:

I'm going to regret asking why, but...

Have you ever thought about giving oral pleasure to an underage girl in zero g? Dan Simmons has.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

LmaoTheKid posted:

So I started reading The Gap series. I'm halfway through the first book and I have a question...

Are all the books this rapey?

The first book is by far the rapiest.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

You can dislike both for being huge bigots and writing stories based on their bigotry. It's not a competition.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

fritz posted:

Neal Asher ‏@nealasher 2h
Oh gently caress off. The cold in the US is due to global warming? Now I have to figure out precisely when it was I entered the Twilight Zone. #fb

Haha god dammit.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

DontMockMySmock posted:

Did an e-cig drag you out of a burning building?

Being in a burning building probably gives you better odds of avoiding horrible injuries than smoking, so I don't see why that'd be a controversial statement.

My issue with Asher is that sci-fi is already so full of Libertarian bullshit and even a couple dumb statements from him are enough to tell me how his books are going to go.

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jan 13, 2014

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I really disliked Player of Games and loved Consider Phlebas and Use of Weapons. Those are also apparently the books everyone says aren't much like the rest.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Yo, if you read The Explorer by James Smythe and were interested in its sequel, The Echo, I'm pretty hesitant to recommend it! It's another dose of nihilistic existential torture with an increased focus on how hosed everyone is. It does live up to its title, though, so I'll give it that.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Explorer-James-Smythe/dp/0062229419

http://www.amazon.com/Echo-James-Smythe-ebook/dp/B00DB3D6AY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1391473011&sr=1-1&keywords=the+echo

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Feb 4, 2014

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I think it's far from the worst but ultimately pointless.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I wonder what the relationship is between the author and the science advisors he references because the sequel is full of the same poo poo, though he does learn about light lag.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

gvibes posted:

I felt this was terribly cheesy but I nevertheless could not put the thing down.

Yeah it was the good kind of cheesy. It also has a pretty solid ending after he's back on earth!

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

General Battuta posted:

Pretty good Nebula ballot this year! :toot: Ancillary Justice and Hild, to nobody's surprise, but I'm happy to see Six Gun Snow White up there too.

Just checked it out and bought most of the novels in the list. Female authors seem to be well represented, is this typical with the Nebula?

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The Light of Other Days, by Stephen Baxter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Light_of_Other_Days

quote:

The wormhole technology is first used to send digital information via gamma rays, then developed further to transmit light waves. The media corporation that develops this advance can spy on anyone anywhere it chooses. A logical development from the laws of space-time allows light waves to be detected from the past. This enhances the wormhole technology into a "time viewer" where anyone opening a wormhole can view people and events from any point throughout time and space.

Less about government use and more about all of society having the capability, though.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

corn in the bible posted:

I've read Brin's Uplift books and nobody can do that without developing a seething hatred for the man.

I think like the first three were pretty good and then he decided to detach the rest of the novels and start them off with alien kids rolling around on bio wheels so I gave up and looked up the series ending and it turns out the big mystery was something that was obvious from the first novel.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Quim, the lady.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I must have forgotten about that one

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Question about God's War: Does it ever stop using wacky far out sci-fi with cars exhausting bugs and people using bug magic and selling their wombs for bug cash? I won't criticize the series over it, but if there's anything that turns me off of science fiction books it's technology and society that's so completely unrelatable to anything we have that the author might as well be making up magic spells and setting the story in Azeroth.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I hope SyFy rewrites parts of The Expanse to be less terrible. Rarely see a series nose-dive so quickly after a promising first novel.

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Hedrigall posted:

I actually just wrote a blog post about the space horror subgenre, and I mini-review 5 works (Unto Leviathan, Blindsight, Hull Zero Three, The Burning Dark, and the Revelation Space series) while giving comments on the horror elements, SF elements, and mystery/resolution elements of each work.

http://outtherebooks.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/space-horror-five-recent-works/

I also spent some time doing cool graphics for the ratings in Photoshop, like so:



Pretty proud of that glowy control panel look :3:

Revelation Space gets a 9/10, top banner 50% Alastair Reynolds books? PR mole spotted.

(just kidding, bookmarked your blog)

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