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Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

specklebang posted:

I want to recommend something obscure. This would be for fantasy people rather than SF but I thought it was great. It's only on Kindle.
http://www.amazon.com/From-Hell-ebook/dp/B0055SXWLG/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371783129&sr=1-4&keywords=from+hell


I read some of Ian Fraser's other work. It was OK, The Nog Sisters is an adventure about a couple of badly behaved fairies who insist on believing that humans are real. From Hell was definitely his best (IMHO).

Last time I bought a 3 dollar self published book that was hyped in this thread I got Blood Song so I am willing to give this a shot.

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Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Mandragora posted:

I read it in one sitting today. With the caveat that I've been a huge Gaiman fan since I was a mopey teenager and stumbled into Sandman, I think this might be his strongest novel yet. It isn't broad and sweeping like American Gods and that's really to its benefit, it's an extremely intimate and personal tale and I love how it's told from the perspective of a child, but by that child as an adult reminiscing. Short read but totally worth picking up if you've enjoyed any of his previous work. It's equal parts whimsy and horror, and since it's approached from a childlike perspective I found that the horror had a lot of weight to it (that crushing sense of absolute helplessness you get when you're a kid and you know no one is going to take you seriously on something), but so did the sense of wonder and awe and acceptance at all the fantastic stuff happening over the course of the story.

This review captures it perfectly. I also read right through it in less than a day and I thought it was pretty amazing.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Victorkm posted:

Last time I bought a 3 dollar self published book that was hyped in this thread I got Blood Song so I am willing to give this a shot.

Re: From Hell by Ian Fraser:

I'm about halfway through now and I would seriously recommend against this book. The writing itself is decently done but the content is pretty dumb. So far there has been projectile explosive diarrhea used as a life saving device, male on male rape treated tongue in cheek contrasted with male on female gang rape treated seriously, and a male character who has changed himself to female and is exploring lesbianism. All in all, it's the last bit that has been the most exasperating. It smacks of author self-insert wish fulfillment.

I'm going to end up finishing the book but I would not recommend it to others.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

specklebang posted:

Sorry. I thought it was hilarious and I bought a number of other books by the same author. That's why it's difficult to make recommendations - peoples tastes vary wildly.

Look at any book on Amazon and you'll see the same book get 5 star and 1 star reviews. How is this possible? One of my all time favorites was Altered Carbon. I loved that book. I read it once. Read it out loud with a friend. Listned to the audio version with 2 other people. That's 4 times for one book. And yet....




are just a few of the comments about Altered Carbon.

Now, here are some reactions to From Hell:



This is why it's challenging to make recommendations. I've seen suggestions here for books I found unreadable. I've also seen suggestions that inspired me to discover a new book or author.

On other forums, I usually post the Amazon link because that's where I do a lot of my "research". I did so with this book because it was Kindle only. I can only recommend that any book should be sampled before purchase.

I don't hate the book but I could see where others would be very frustrated or turned off by it. I mean, I have read most of the Xanth books unironically but I wouldn't tell others to read the one where the 13 year old seduces the 20 year old dude and changes into an 18 year old version of herself in order to have sex with him.

In fact, to highlight something I really enjoyed about this book: The personification of the two magic spells the queen cast at the beginning. The first spell backfires and the author described the actions of the magic as being performed by an elderly former British general projected into this plane as a ball of lava.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Megazver posted:

You got most of them, really. Here's a few more:

The Rook: A Novel by Daniel O'Malley. Slightly Whedonesque UF with an espionage bent. Excellent.

Dead Things by Stephen Blackmoore. Probably darker than Twenty Palaces, still quite good.

Libriomancer by Jim Hines. Less derivative of Dresden Files than Iron Druid, but more or less as fluff-y. It's alright. Speaking of the Druid, the sixth book is out.

London Falling by Paul Cornell. A British Police Procedural. Cops desperately trying to figure out how to deal with a hosed-up supernatural threat. I found the first act a little hard to get into, but once poo poo hits the fan, it's a fun ride for the rest of the book.

Three Parts Dead by Max Gladstone. This is set in a secondary world, but it's very much UF to my taste. A mage has a few days to solve a god's murder and try to bring him back to life. Fantastic worldbuilding.

Low Town by Daniel Polansky. Noir UF \ fantasy hybrid.

My Life as a White Trash Zombie by Diana Rowland. Awesome covers. Barely any romance, which is a plus for me in UF. A girl gets saved from death by a mysterious benefactor who also gets her a job at a local morgue. Then weird poo poo starts happening, not the least to her own body. The author spent a few years working as a coroner and it shows - I actually enjoyed the parts about her job a bit more than the supernatural bits.

Blackbirds by Chuck Wendig. A psychic who can see when people die, sees her own death.

A few more off-beat suggestions that aren't strictly UF:

Gun Machine by Warren Ellis. Watch the trailer if "this is by Warren Ellis" isn't recommendation enough.

The Alienist by Caleb Carr. New York, 1896. When a serial killer starts butchering boy prostitutes, Police Commissioner Roosevelt sets up a secret task force to help hunt him down with the power of alienism and forensics! (That's what they called psychology back then, in case any of you don't know.)

Silver Pigs by Lindsey Davis. Wisecracking gumshoe solves crimes and travels around Imperial Rome. A really entertaining mix of mystery, humor, adventure and romance.

The Breach by Patrick Lee. Unrelenting, mindfucky thriller.

If the prior poster liked the Patricia Briggs books they may also like the Rachel Morgan/The Hollows books by Kim Harrison. They are basically a female Dresden in a slightly more fantasy version of the world, with a little bit more romance.

Also Pixies and Faeries are badass infiltrators/assassins, and one of the main characters is a Pixie.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

General Battuta posted:

Someone tell me if there's a quick way to tell whether a book is self-published or not.

Blood Song was self published.

And it was awesome.

I haven't finished From Hell yet but I can assure you it is not awesome. See my comments on it in the last couple pages.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

The Night Angel trilogy by Brent Weeks sounds like it is about your speed.

It's about a lowly thief who wants to become a super powered assassin.

Victorkm fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jul 17, 2013

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

BlazinLow305 posted:

That's interesting. It has a 4.44 rating on goodreads, although I know to take the ratings there with a grain of salt sometimes. I think I may give this series a go first.

It does a lot of things wrong and cribs a bit from wheel of time in places but you said you liked forgotten realms pulp so I thought you might like it.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Feist is moving on to a new series when this one's done.

Must have started a new D&D campaign.

Anyway, I started Feist with the Serpentwar Saga and then went back and read the Riftwar saga and I was happy with that. No one mentioned the Demonwar Saga yet but thats because it wasn't all that good. Neither is the latest trilogy.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

systran posted:

They should cast a goon to play Kvothe.

Rupert Grint could play Kvothe and Emma Watson Della.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Paul Bettany.

Or Robert Webb.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

calandryll posted:

Same thing happens with Modesitt's Recluce series, but I love the ever poo poo out of those books.
You and me both. This also extends to the Imager and Spellsong series. Same plot summaries and character archetypes in every book/character arc.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

calandryll posted:

I haven't read his other stuff but man I wish he'd release another Recluce book.

I really like both that I mentioned before.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

andrew smash posted:

Haha, my mom read dean koontz novels when i was a kid and i stole some of them. They're basically proto-twilight. Horrible romance novels with bad sex scenes and dumb sci-fi themes such as time-traveling nazis (seriously).

gently caress you! Lightning was awesome.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Mister Kingdom posted:

I actually bought that entire series. In hardcover.

:suicide:

This was before I knew anything about how crazy Hubbard was and how evil Scientology is.

The only interesting thing I took from it was the audio/visual implants the bad guy used to spy on the hero.

Those books were kind of fun to read back when I was too young to know any better.

edit: Some brave fool should do a Let's Read of those.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Hedrigall posted:

As well as The Expanse (SF series by James SA Corey), SyFy is now turning Lev Grossman's The Magicians into a TV series! Exciting times :toot:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/04/the-magicians-lev-grossman-television-adaptation

That sounds awful and depressing.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Just wanted to add my endorsement for the Daniel Faust series of urban fantasy novels by Craig Schaefer mentioned earlier in the thread. The first book is The Long Way Down. I really enjoyed it and the sequel, Redemption Song. It is set in an alternate Las Vegas (He changed the name of the casinos and restaurants but they are based on real life versions) and stars a sorcerer with a questionable moral compass who is backed up by the rest of the sorcerer community of Vegas.

The second book was even better than the first.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Street Soldier posted:

It's almost as if he's being facetious or something.

Gladstone spotted.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

less laughter posted:

Khaleesi is an increasingly popular baby name these days

Which bothers me to no end as it isnt even her actual name! Daenerys is such a better name than Khaleesi.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

I just finished 2 self published (I assume) books, translated from Russian by someone named D. Rus called "Alterworld" and "The Clan" in a series called "Play To Live" where the main character is a person who is dying of cancer who has taken advantage of a "bug" of Full Immersion Virtual Reality technology that causes some people to be permanently downloaded into the world of whatever Massively Multiplayer game they play too much.

I ended up rolling my eyes a lot at both books - The translation took some getting used to as well as the author's habit of including tons of statblocks and quest text in the game whenever the main character called up what an item did or accepted a quest. Also, the theme was pretty much wish fulfillment World Of Warcraft/Everquest self insert fan fiction. He picks the hardest to manage race/class combo then immediately begins excelling to a convenient level etc.

Anyway, I enjoyed them - Its better than a lot of the self-published stuff I've read since picking up Kindle Unlimited.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Over the last few months I have read a lot of "D&D players get sucked into game" fantasy, and I gotta say the Critical Failures series had me laughing pretty hard. It's pretty much sophomoric humor but it's pretty god damned funny.

I've been reading these books, and am up to the third now. They are pretty goddamn funny at times, but what fascinates me about them is how the author went with the concept to a very literal point. The world they get sucked into still operates on the same rules of D&D Third Edition (though renamed) and most of them are aware of the rules and end up taking advantage of stuff in clever manner. Unlike something like the Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg, where they just end up in fantasy world, in this series they end up in live action D&D with real consequences.

Also, one of the characters, Cooper, made his game character a half orc with a charisma of like 4. This manifests itself in his character being unable to control his bowels or bladder and constantly defecating or urinating all over the ground in front of people, among other things.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Daniel keeps ignoring the fact that he owes the one dude for his awesome car and gun. I wonder if that will be a catalyst for the plot of the next book.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Eh, he's Jennifer's friend or at least business associate. I'd think that might earn him a little leeway in the "might be magical" department. Worst case Daniel has to do the jail job, which would at least make for an interesting read as well.

Yeah I figure it's one of the only unresolved plot threads so it would make sense for that to be the lead in to the next set of stories.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Kalman posted:

Bruce Bethke's Headcrash might be up your alley.

I love you for bringing this book up. You might be the only other person I've ever heard of who has read it.

I need me some infonuggets and khyberpunks.

I'd also like to use this post to rehype for the Daniel Faust urban fantasy series by Craig Schaefer. The conclusion of the first trilogy just came out a month ago or so. It starts with "The Long Way Down" and is about a sorcerer who makes a living pulling heists who suddenly gets embroiled in the upcoming apocalypse.

Victorkm fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Nov 1, 2014

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Craig Schaefer's new book is out in the Daniel Faust series. A Plain-Dealing Villain.

Finished it last night. It's pretty damned good. I'd hold off on reading it if you haven't finished the original trilogy, because there are massive spoilers for the last couple books in there.

First book I've read in a single sitting in a long time. One of the only ones I have 5 starred as well.

Worth grabbing if you are a fan of the series, seems to be getting better with each book.

I'm about done with this and I have to again hype the series. Daniel Faust is what you would get if Donald Westlake had a brain baby with Jim Butcher. Dortmunder's ingenuity and planning, Parker's ruthlessness and instincts, and Dresden's magic powers and urban fantasy politics.

This book was fantastic.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

All I could think of when I got to the end was "You.... magnificent bastard :argh: "

It's a hell of a ride, that's for sure.

If he keeps up his pace, the next one should be out in about 3 days, so no big deal.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Twenty Palace series by Harry Connolly
Daniel Faust series by Craig Schaefer
London Falling by Paul Cornell

Highly seconding these, especially Faust which were 4 excellent books that only got better as you went on, but London Falling is exactly what you are looking for if you want Rivers of London but serious.

I haven't read the other 3.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Chairchucker posted:

Apparently someone quietly made and aired a pilot for a TV show of Wheel of Time.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/9/8008387/wheel-of-time-pilot-fxx

I find it weird that I am really enjoying this.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Khizan posted:

Modesitt has this weird thing going where I'm pretty sure that I'd willingly read a 500+ page book about some dude doing nothing but making barrels or or chairs or horseshoes, but I'd be completely unable to tell you why I bothered to do it at the end of it.

I'm with you on these. The Imager books are really enjoyable too. The first 3 are kinda reclusey but the next 4 are really rather epic and seem to matter much more to the history of the world.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

The Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg has the normal people brought into fantasyland and using their knowledge to their advantage, though it should come with a trigger warning iirc, though not so much in the first book. I can't exactly attest to quality, though.

Also I think you might be referring to A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

There's the River of the Dancing Gods books I think also by Stasheff? I think that counts. The Wizardry series by Rick Cook about a programmer named Wiz who is transported to a land where he finds magic can be programmed.

Also the Well of Souls books are sort of portal fantasy/sci fi.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Regarding the LitRPG genre that is leaking out of Russia, mentioned earlier on the last few pages: I cannot get enough of them. I am not sure what that says about me though. I've read all 4 Play To Live books by D. Rus, all 3 End Online books by D. Wolfin, the first Way of The Shaman book by Vasily Mahanenko, and even the serialization/fanslation of Legendary Moonlight Sculptor out of Korea.

I just finished the most recent release, Way of the Clan, boook 1 of World of Valdira, by Dem Mikhaylov. I swear to god this dude just translated the book with Google Translate, there are so many typos and incorrect words etc. And for some reason all dialogue was printed as its own paragraph with a dash in front of the start of it, with breaks in speech barely even punctuated so its hard to tell what is descriptive text in between speech in those sections. Even so, the story still roped me in somehow.

What I have noticed about all these LitRPG books is that they all have a similar wish fulfillment plot hook - Even Ready Player One which I'd say counts. The main character finds a secret class/quest/skill through virtue of doing some menial task that no one else who isn't incredibly masochistic would do and it leads them to some kind of power that puts them on a higher footing than most other players.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

angel opportunity posted:

Thanks!

edit:

What did you think of these two, assuming you read them? They have way better ranking

http://www.amazon.com/Reborn-Gamblers-Game-D-W-Jackson-ebook/dp/B011N9PXJE/ref=pd_sim_351_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=03SP3FMMQNJGGBF3WNS1
http://www.amazon.com/The-Bathrobe-Knight-Charles-Dean-ebook/dp/B0104WO2RA/ref=pd_sim_351_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=03SP3FMMQNJGGBF3WNS1

Would the first one only being 91 pages be a big turn-off to you, or is it fine as long as the book is good enough?

I haven't read either. Was looking at the Reborn books this morning and to be honest the length was a total turn off. Since I have kindle unlimited I will likely read them anyway. I didn't know the second book was in the genre but I'm going to try it out.

Alter world is definitely my favorite but for amount of material, Legendary Moonlight Sculptor probably takes the prize. As well, a lot of the action sequences and real world stuff are better in that series. Collected here:http://royalroadweed.blogspot.co.il/2014/11/toc.html

Edit: I really liked Way Of The Shaman as well. I think it was actually better written than most including Alterworld. The only downside is there is only 1 out so far.

Victorkm fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jul 24, 2015

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

CaptainScraps posted:

We have an original one now, too. The Bathrobe Knight.

I'm pretty sure that Ready Player One counts, too.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

:siren: THE NEW DANIEL FAUST BOOK IS OUT AND ON KINDLE UNLIMITED :siren:

Christ this dude writes FAST. The last book came out in January I think.

Anyway, http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Floor-Blues-Daniel-Faust-ebook/dp/B01358M5XS

Go forth and get it.

Jesus christ what is wrong with you Craig Schaefer! So many books so fast. Is this 5 in 2 years in just this series alone?

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

withak posted:

Posting this without a warning is mean. Someone might buy it and read it.

yeah, still not worth the price.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

The real definitive answer is yes. But stop if you start to hate it at any time after book 4.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Jerkface posted:

Now what should I read next? I'm looking for Sci-fi or fantasy. With black company done I've now read: malazan, black company, expanse, culture, mieville, asoif, raven's shadow series, alastair reynolds bibliography, mongoliad, dan simmons, patrick rothfuss's bullshit, bernard cromwell, a bunch of 1 offs

Whats out there for me now?

The Revanche Cycle by Craig Schaefer is 3/4 books complete now. Its pretty decent and if his release schedule lately is any hint the fourth book could be along by June or earlier. I have enjoyed the first 3 books starting with Winter's Reach even though he doesn't do a great job at representing distance between major locations in the books in the later entries.

If you like Urban Fantasy at all, he has 2 other series set in the same world of demons and magic - the Daniel Faust novels which have 5 or 6 entries and are great heist/revenge stories and the Harmony Black series which only has 1 book so far but follows a witch working for the FBI who is introduced in the Faust books. The second book in Harmony Black comes out next month or so and the first one released in the last month. He's a good author to follow if you like having 2-3 books a year from them.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Kesper North posted:

Yeah, A Civil Campaign is great. I'd totally read more Bujold space romance novels.

Another endorsement of A Civil Campaign from me. That book was space "The Importance of Being Earnest" basically.

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Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

Anyone recommend Firefly by Piers Anthony?

edit: poo poo! Missed the Anthony mention earlier.

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