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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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MrKatharsis posted:

Holy poo poo. That thread revealed r/Loans which I never knew existed. How sad.
More like r/begging.

fake edit: holy crap, dude who posted this thread in there has requested 11 loans: http://www.reddit.com/r/Loans/comments/23j1yj/meta_lenders_i_feel_like_this_is_a_taboo_topic/

How does that even happen? I mean I guess it's no different from the payday loan cycles people get stuck in, but it's just startling to see it laid out like that.

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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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pathetic little tramp posted:

Then having the Koreans wanting you to join their army, I know how that is. gently caress, I visited Germany in the 30s and they were all "Hey be a Nazi or else."
It sounds like he's actually Korean, so this is entirely plausible. Every (male?) citizen has to serve.

But yeah I have no idea what he's thinking asking for money with that post history. Probably, "I really need more money for drugs and hope no one looks at my post history."

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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Nail Rat posted:

:stonk: Redit personalfinance really is a goldmine.
Yeah it is:

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About a day and two weeks before my first paycheck, I had taken out a small loan from a Cash Store to pay for my expenses and my boyfriend's birthday. I don't know if you have heard of these, but apparently they have horrible reputations. I had to give them my vehicle's title to get the $250 loan, so they can take my vehicle at any time and claim it as theirs if I do not pay this loan. I am only 18 years old and I was desperate. My parents cannot help me with my situation.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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Nocheez posted:

God drat, Zaurg. I really was hoping that you would have gotten your wife on the same page and been able to turn your life around. You have my condolences, but it looks like a bankruptcy, divorce, or both are in your future.
Zaurg's situation reminds me of Sarah Palin. Everything thinks Palin is incredibly dumb, when the truth is that she's probably of roughly average intelligence, and is only really dumb in comparison to most other politicians that get national exposure. I think Zaurg is similar in that the really horrifying thing about his situation is precisely that it's probably not that unusual. Being in debt and constantly trying to 'upgrade' one's lifestyle beyond one's means has become a mainstay of the middle class.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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peter banana posted:

Yeah, I actually liked that show a lot. If people followed her rules and stayed on a budget for the month she worked with them, she gave them a $5k cheque for their debt, but that amount could slide based on how well they followed the rules down to $0.

She had another show as well, for young, generally single women with the same premise called "Princess." I learned a lot!
Looked at her Wikipedia bio, she has an even more recent show that sounds right up our alley: Money Moron

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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Lobsty posted:

Or not value it, because you will be severely short of both after having a baby.

For content, my sister has been asked to be maid-of-honour for a friend, and she is pressuring all her bridal party to do all sorts of overly extravagant things paid out of their own pockets, such as matching dresses for the engagement party AND wedding, destination hen's weekend including stripper, alcohol, accommodation and travel costs of approximately $400 per person (plus a little extra to cover the bride's share), and numerous meals out at fine-dining establishments (eg., rehearsal dinners, meet & greets).

The bride covers none of these costs and gets upset with her friends if they can't attend all the events at their own cost. Needless to say, she is wasting lots of her parents' and own money on crazy expensive venues, music and catering and other wedding stuff. It's going the be easily ~$75k all up, quite possibly more.
I have this hunch that people who spend ridiculous amounts of money on their wedding are subconsciously trying to compensate for a weak relationship with the spouse-to-be by covering it up with cash. But maybe I just want to believe that people who are bad with money are bad at everything else too.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 08:07 on May 25, 2014

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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My sister's family lives in Utah and the tap water there tastes awful. Water in my area (Silicon Valley) is meh, tastes neither good nor bad. We previously lived in the Seattle area and the tap water was awesome.

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Dec 17, 2003

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What can be walked in 45 minutes (2 - 3 miles? certainly no more than 4) should be bikeable in <= 15 minutes.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Your relationship sounds adversarial.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Buy only a modest number of heavily discounted games? Or you could just play through your backlog (given how you're talking about the sale I know you have one).

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Dec 17, 2003

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FrozenVent posted:

Ahaha they changed the first "Hey you!" but left the thread listing :allears:
A goon (the same who made it I think) genericized it a while back.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Guest2553 posted:

For content, a relative is currently staying with my wife and I for a few weeks. A month ago when tickets were booked it was described as 'while I'm moving back to Canada from the Caribbean I'll stay with you guys for a bit so I can see my new nephew before starting my new full time job'. Turns out that said relative quit her last job before having another one lined up, hasn't applied for any positions, and has about 100 bucks to her name. And apparently the whole reason she left Canada was was to dodge student loans after banks came knocking when she dropped out of first year.
What's your plan for this? It kind of sounds like her 'plan' is to mooch off of you indefinitely.

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Dec 17, 2003

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DuckConference posted:

my guess is that because hes a US citizen, he's in china on a visa, and that's what expires and needs refreshing by leaving china
Ok, but surely there are much cheaper countries to visit than the US, coming from China.

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Dec 17, 2003

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NancyPants posted:

I feel like a nerd for wanting a plain wedding band and not giving a rat's rear end about an engagement ring. I'd rather spend that money on something fun or cool. :3:
No, this just makes you a cool and intelligent person. I find it kind of weird that at this point everyone (or at least everyone educated) knows the origin of expensive diamond engagement rings as a must-have was just a clever marketing ploy, and yet most people just still go along with it anyway.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Duck and Cover posted:

Selling/buying stocks isn't really bad with money. Oh you sold too early you're so dumb! Oh you sold too late god what a moron.
It is if you're the sort who goes "oh man this stock market crash, guess you can't trust the market, time to pull everything out!" like a lot of people apparently did at the bottom of the last recession.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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Someone made a collection of car loan horror studies from the pf subreddit, this is great: http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/2av2d6/collection_of_car_loan_horror_stories_from_rpf/

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Dec 17, 2003

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enraged_camel posted:

It's still dumb and risky as gently caress. It's basically a lawsuit time-bomb.

Think about it: "we were sitting at home and my wife unexpectedly went into labor but I couldn't rush her to the hospital because the lender disabled the ignition on the car."
How is this different from "we were sitting at home and my wife unexpectedly went into labor but I couldn't rush her to the hospital because the lender had repossessed the car."?

Also it seems like in that case if you couldn't get a ride from family or a neighbor you could just call 911?

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Dec 17, 2003

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pathetic little tramp posted:

Rich kids. I know a girl who gets 10,000 dollars from her parents every Christmas and is also getting them to put 50% toward the down payment on a new home.

Also, in bad with money, but also maybe bad with the law:

http://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-host-cant-get-squatter-to-leave-2014-7#ixzz38GSzSXl9

Girl puts her apartment on airbnb, guy wants to stay for 45 days, he complains on day one (about cloudy tapwater) and she gives him a full refund but lets him stay the full 45 days :psyduck:.

Of course, now he's legally a tenant because she let him stay so long and he ain't leaving.
It gets better. Turns out the squatter did a successful game kickstarter that now looks scammy (no real progress since the campaign succeeded and the dude has started a new kickstarter for a different game, using a different account of course): http://www.kesq.com/news/squatter-in-palm-springs-also-accused-of-duping-online-gamers/27096438

First kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/829559023/confederate-express
Second kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kilobite/knuckle-club

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Dec 17, 2003

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The Door Frame posted:

drat you're right, the highest I could find was 5.5%
How is that even legal?
Well, the idea is that people will see that rate, go "lol no" and turn around and walk out the door, not unlike what would happen if you were trying to sell bananas for $20 a pop.

But people are weird about cars.

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Dec 17, 2003

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I subjectively value arguing on the internet at $500/hour, so I'm getting rich just by posting!

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Dec 17, 2003

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I believe Hack Reactor is one of the more reputable coding bootcamps, so at least that's good, I guess?

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Dec 17, 2003

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Nail Rat posted:

seems the average for Senior Software Engineer in SF is about 110k.
That sounds low to me, but maybe that's because I've been at higher-paying companies.

Jeffrey posted:

Glassdoor says the average for the bay area is 107k for all people listed as "programmer", not just senior ones, but that still doesn't explain 105k for entry-level.
Well at least for top-tier companies, first year compensation can be easily well over 100k, so being around 100k for the average doesn't sound surprising to me.

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Dec 17, 2003

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VideoTapir posted:

It's also WAAAY past the point of diminishing returns. I'd bet you get more out of a year of 5 to 10 hours a week.
Nah, I think high intensity training is a good way to go about it. Of course it's not sustainable over a long period of time, but 12 weeks is just doing one semester's worth, a little less even.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Barry posted:

They could be fudging a bit by including benefits in the salary. So an 85k salary + benefits might be a "total compensation" of 105k.
I doubt it, but there is a good chance they're factoring in bonuses and stock.

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They also might have some rock star types that get absurd salaries to drag up the average that high while the median is in the five figures. Just a thought.
Yeah, if it's a mean and not a median that's probably true to some extent.

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Nail Rat posted:

The burden of proof is on the party claiming a 105k starting salary for a 12 week course is 99% guaranteed, IMO :shrug: .
How would they even prove it? The students and employers involved would probably frown on their numbers being revealed except in a highly anonymized fashion, in which case it wouldn't be any more proof than what they've already said.
Looks like those salaries don't factor in bonuses or stock, and also it's not consistent with itself which is odd. For example if you click through the Google Software Engineer one that says 110k salary, it suddenly jumps to 121k salary on the other page, with total comp being 155k.

Anyway, 100k compensation for a junior engineer in SF is not unusual at all.

edit: while Glassdoor is generally accurate, you have to factor in that they're including salaries for the last several years, and during that time there's been a decent sized run up in salaries for software engineers in the bay area.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Necc0 posted:

Junior != entry level. Hope this helps.
I've seen them used synonymously all the time, but in any case, 100k for an entry-level software engineer in SF isn't unusual at all.

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Dec 17, 2003

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everybody would sweet government subsidized wages (ie living wage), plus a bonus wage for your specific speciality (eg engineering, teacher, janitor, whatever), both of which would be government mandated and readily found on a spreadsheet so that negotiations aren't needed
That sounds awful to me, but I guess I'd feel differently if I had a lower-paying career.

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pathetic little tramp posted:

But I didnt steal it I dont think, I just put it somewhere else. I haven't spent it and wont for like a year just in case
I didn't steal anything, I just took money that wasn't mine and moved it to somewhere else.

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Dec 17, 2003

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xie posted:

We're not 100% no car because of vacation rentals but we're drat close. People freak out when they hear where I live because "it's expensive" but we don't have a car and keep an honest, real budget, which our place comes in a few dollars under. Everyone happily pays a few hundred less in rent each month but doesn't see that their car makes up the difference.
Yeah, a few times I've seen when people ask about what % of their budget they should limit themselves to for housing, someone will respond that they should think of it in terms of housing + transportation cost instead, precisely because of this tradeoff.

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Dec 17, 2003

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Split thread into two new threads: the Splurging Safe Zone, where people can discuss their monogrammed chocolate toothpicks and multi-stage tropical wedding receptions free from financial bigotry, and the Frugality Firing Squad, where we rag on people for using electricity during peak hours and throwing away food that's just a little moldy.

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HonorableTB posted:

Close, Amazon.
I dunno, when I worked at Amazon I had none of that. It depends on your team though.

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HonorableTB posted:

That's what I've been told, and it's likely that the experience is much different for a QAT/QAE than it is for a software engineer.
Well at least where I worked the QAEs were embedded in the same space as the SDEs. Reported to different managers but they still came to our standup. They did not seem to work significantly more on average than the devs.

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It just kind of sucks because there's no way for me to know what my experience is going to be unless I actually take the job, and by then it'll be too late because Amazon would be paying for me to move to Washington so they'd have me on the hook for 1-2 years or however long I'm contractually obligated to work there without having to pay a penalty.
IIRC The only 'penalty' would be paying back a prorated % of your relocation payment and sign-on bonus. So if you're worried about that, just don't go balls-to-the-wall crazy with your spending so that you have enough money saved to potentially cover that and you'll probably be fine. Alternatively you could ask whatever other company you were trying to get a job with to cover that cost.

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Seattle has a very high density of tech jobs, so if it doesn't work out, it shouldn't be too hard to find work at a new place anyway.

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Applications for early release of superannuation on medical grounds must be approved by the Department of Human Services.

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She subsequently dipped in again for a further $20,000 to cover a tummy tuck and breast implants
Wait what?

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http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/2i1zea/finances_versus_passion/

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My parents thought they made too much money for me to get federal aid for college, so I received my Bachelor's of Science in Media Arts & Animation from the Art Institute on mostly private loans. After I turned 24 I was able to receive federal aid. I tried making payments, but every time I did the principles went UP, not down, and thus I became depressed and stopped making payments. Instead, I went back to school hoping to earn my Master's degree, and prolong payments. I have an assortment of private loans ($36,439.15 @7.25%, $26,032.85 @10.25%, $29,214.42 @8.25%, $34,243.09 @8.25%, and $56,550.97 @10.25% totaling to $182,480.48) and federal (7 amounting to $86,165.90). I am $278,167.35 in debt to student loans as of today
:psyboom:

278k in debt for an art degree, and she's not even done with the master's, and she wants to drop out.

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Jeffrey posted:

unlike a lot of people asking for financial advice, her problem seems rather easy to solve in that leaving the country is probably the only at all reasonable choice
I'm curious, if you actually do that, obviously you can't come back to live, but you can still visit the country, right?

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Since you can't measure college academic performance directly, the value of the degree relative to other colleges is based on its prestige, so colleges spend as much as possible on raising that by blowing money on nice facilities, top-tier research professors, fancy sports programs, etc.

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Nail Rat posted:

Presidents and other high-ranking officials who make six or seven figure salaries too. Where I went to school the president made at least 200k a year and the university paid for a $100k renovation of his house because he'd entertain boosters there.
Eh 200k for the president isn't that bad. What's bad is when you have several dozen 100-200k 'administrators'/VPs, most of whom are doing makework.

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FCKGW posted:

Living like a college student sucks rear end that's why it's called "living like a college student" and not just "living".
Yeah because most people don't have any fun when they're a college student and have way more fun once they're in the workfhahahahahaha

Seriously though, college life is proof that you don't need to spend bongo bux to have fun. Even the kids putting too much crap on their student loans aren't really spending all that much compared to your average working stiff.

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opus111 posted:

What makes higher education fun is that all of your friends are in the same situation as you, lots of time and no money. This isn't true afterwards so the lifesryle isn't redo able.
For me it was like that in CC, but then once I was back at big kid college majoring in CS with a part-time job, my excessive free time went away. If I had been single and childless after graduating (instead of married with a kid), I would've had more free time in my first job than in college.

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