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How fiddly is the army building aspect? I can handle Warhammer/40K/Epic/etc pretty decently, but Airland Battles absolutely killed me with choice paralysis from trying to figure out what to take of 15 billion types of mortars. Also, when you say "you can't repick" do you mean like, for the entire key you took or can you reroll/have multiple towns in parallel? Once i pick this up i want to see how a swamp/looter/siege army works but it might be a complete goddamn disaster.
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Goons & Glory isn't bad, but why not Mongoonian Horde?
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Jun 26, 2013 03:16
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Extra posted:Also there's no way to trade crowns currently so more or less I need to just farm crowns doing co-op missions all day long. That's some goddamn nonsense. I understand why they'd want a 'bound' currency but at least let members of an alliance chip in for alliance-wide bonuses. (BTW i do want to get in on this but that's not happening until i get my first draft of my thesis done in the next week or two)
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Jun 26, 2013 15:09
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Tarezax posted:In as HuoShengdi and my town in the Wold, Xianyang. Look forward to fighting alongside you guys with my oddly pale-skinned soldiers Huo are you still in this game, i'd like to make you my referrer for being a bro in Wushu (i went by InspectaDeek in that).
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Jul 15, 2013 02:38
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I'm in as Tulip. Orcs rule!
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Jul 15, 2013 06:03
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Scyantific posted:In as LordNikon, gonna be playing humans first time around. What two traits should I go for? Siege Mastery sounds like a solid first pick since trebuchets Looter o h w a i t. Farmers or military i guess, i don't think you can really go wrong with any of the human ones.
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Jul 15, 2013 09:16
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, but I'm kinda stuck on the second trait. Any advice?
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Does the lag cut both ways? It's my least favorite part about using goblins. That, and they take up pop on a piece of crap unit that is nearly useless in sieges (save to jumping up towers to slit throats). Does everybody use siege mastery or do they put up with comically inaccurate catapults, because holy crap catapults can't hit poo poo even with siege mastery. And is quests+sieging neutral towns basically 'how to get crowns,' i'm starving for crowns (and making so much of every other resource i can't figure out what to spend it on)
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Jul 16, 2013 04:44
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Ok so how do i win NPC sieges? I tried to assault Ma Tinro with my swamp orcs with a whole crapload of berserkers and 10 catapults and all i got for it was a whole shitload of losses and some really, really experienced berserkers. My army was like 590 strength and mostly berserkers, siege gear, and some goblins to die in place of important units. My leader was mass healing and things seemed to be going well until i got to the central courtyard when my berserkers just kind of refused to move forward any further, my leader eventually succumbed to...something, i think enemy slayers, and then they charged with everything and i hit retreat after it became clear that i was just going to continuously lose units. Was "break the walls, snipe off their ranged units, and crush skulls with berserkers" just not the right strategy or did i basically glitch out?
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Jul 16, 2013 09:21
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Am i missing something big or are slayers just kind of pointless? They're anti-archer infantry, but they're not as good at it as goblin raiders, who have the benefit of 1)disposable and 2)evasion. Berserkers are better in every other situation. Is it just that they're midpoint units and are less readily countered? I guess they do well vs spear infantry? Mounted slayers are kind of fantastic though.
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Jul 18, 2013 01:56
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Protagorean posted:Is there a reason my production (or at least what this admittedly "rustic" game is telling me my production is) has dropped off so much? I was generating almost 50 stone a minute thanks to my dwarves, and about 100 food a minute because of my deer spam, and about 30ish gold thanks to my Alchemy... Tree, and now that's all gone down to 14, 16, and 18, respectively. Is it because I had a huge burst in production, what with upgrading every single emplacement and tower slot? Or some kind of hidden upkeep? Is the game lying to me? I can't tell, because the averages are over such long periods of time, and it won't even tell me how much wood my wisps are generating Are you close to your storage cap? Because there's a limit to how much you can bank and the tends to cause my production to go from 120+ to about 0 gradually.
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Jul 18, 2013 02:53
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Protagorean posted:Nah, I've still got room for 10000 of my poo poo. No idea. Are you using lots of sheep/cows/whatever? They get a falloff for overopopulation. Any idea why sometimes my units just won't follow orders? I had 10 units of berserkers that just did not move at all during a recent siege. The rest of them were perfectly happy to climb the siege towers and everything, but the rest of them just decided they'd rather chill out where there's plenty of arrow fire. Once they got within a bowshot of the walls they just refused to move. No orders were taken, not any. They had plenty of stamina but just stood there getting shot.
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Jul 18, 2013 03:14
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DarkAvenger211 posted:I'm in under DarkAvenger211. Playing the orcs, how do I get fire arrows, it says to get it at the Great Hut, but it's not an option there :/ It's under "Tactics" in the Grand Hut, it's "Research Burning Arrow Trial." I actually wouldn't consider that a high priority for Orcs - Goblin Prowlers are terrible and Marauders are worse. Get faster world map movement because oh my god even with Looter it's slow (also these techs improve your looting, aka the strongest part of an orc economy), and in terms of battle upgrades the best ones are Movements of War and Combined Forces at War Hall (improves your combat Stands for all units, holy crap they get good), Slayer's Shield at War Hall/Armory (Slayers can get up to 100% pierce resist, you can see Extra bitching about Elves doing that with Blademasters earlier in the thread), and get a couple levels on a War Hall, Pyre, Goblin Tent, and Temple so that your main units start with levels. If you really want to burn down cities, Siege of Throwing Doom and Siege of Sky Fire under 'Engineering' at the Armory should be higher priorities - Catapults do a much better job of burning the world. Speaking of - there seems to be some sort of consistent movement bug during PVE sieges. It's completely crippling. I had Dintassa almost entirely wrecked, just down to the little keep on the hill, but all of my towers, ladders, and rams just stubbornly refused to acknowledge any order i gave to them to approach the walls/gate. After five minutes of getting shot to pieces by marauders that i couldn't touch, i sighed and backed off before the attack got any more expensive. This happened to me at Darssen, Westerdale, and Ma Tinro, and it's not always the same units but at some point somebody crucial just decides that i can get hosed, they're not going anywhere, whether it's my hero when he gets ahead of my line or my berserkers while i'm storming the walls. What's going on? e: Oh and how are we keeping in touch? Are we using mumble or what?
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Jul 19, 2013 00:03
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DarkAvenger211 posted:Ah ok, sounds good. If I get an upgrade on one of the goblin tents, does it apply to all of them? And are upgrades finished instantly? This UI is the absolute worst. It applies to just the one, upgrades are finished instantly. I have one level 5 tent and about 30 level 1 tents.
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Jul 19, 2013 16:55
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Did dragons really need a buff? Also the price increases for Orcs didn't go through, Goblins are still free.
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Jul 19, 2013 21:19
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Mystic Mongol posted:
Always good to have MM in a game. And i figure your peasants are just paralyzed with fear. That, or they really do just do what you tell them to, no ifs ands or buts. And Ogres drop an obnoxious amount of food. I'm currently glad for it, the price increases for Orcs are, well, enormous, so it can be a decent chunk of my economy. Though it was probably unfair that "an entire army" used to cost like, a unit of knights. Extra posted:Despite the blatant lies about the pathfinding system (my guess is it's never coming), that one change is a pretty major one for the entire gameplay structure of DoF and should make the game a lot more interesting. Probably a good thing. It will be largely to the benefit of cheaper, weaker units, and as it stands "max all resists" is basically the no-brainer always do skill spec. Too bad my 80+ vs all berserkers will no longer kill everything.
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Aug 17, 2013 19:42
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The lazy fix would probably be to make it so that the resistance promotions are 3% each rather than 5% (or maybe 4%?). Still worth getting for specialized and even line units, but not just plain better than any other use of skill points. "Armored murderblob" is frankly a pretty good term for the current metagame. Until this gets fixed, never not flaming arrows, that +100 or so nigh-unresistable damage is flipping sweet when your actual arrows hit like spitballs (protip: Goblin Raiders get fire resist when Evading)
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Aug 17, 2013 23:37
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Mystic Mongol posted:I just sent in my entire army, all my goons, my hero, and four groups of peasants and a pair of wagons, into a quest to kill some rebellious peasants. Wait your Hero too? That sounds like a bug. Otherwise you just welped an army and that's just how it goes.
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Aug 18, 2013 20:00
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You get half the looting value of unlooted corpses when you leave a map.
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Extra posted:Major gameplay changes: Jesus this might be enough to get me back in the game.
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