BlackMK4 posted:

yes, it does not feel slow, especially when it does the hilariously magic feeling torque vectoring out of a good 2nd gear corner

something to keep in mind is that a few of these cars, like the fist, tap out 2nd just before 60, so you get the added shift time for 60. A tune will generally solve this as it will make the car not drop off as heavily in the upper revs, stops the torque limit in 1st/2nd, and sometimes extends the rev range to allow you to hit 60 in 2nd.