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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Forgive me for sounding naive, but it seems to me like part of the solution would be to unionize the prison population. No way in hell to do that with guards encouraging ethnic violence, though.

I did soft time in Santa Cruz county jail and everyone seemed to get along there (with a makeup of 40%white 40% latino, 20% black, and one Asian guy in my cellblock--designed for 40 men and containing 100, I should note), but that's likely an aberration resulting from me being in the low-risk block. I heard a couple of the gang blocks had weekly fights.

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Feb 19, 2007


Not all of them. Some administration is usually necessary. But give half the axe and do a 50% cut for the ones who are left and suddenly you've got maintenance budget out the rear end and the possibility of longer-running service.

gently caress management.


edit: Cultural question here: I've been raised to believe that metal (as in, the genre) is pretty drat racist but have also noticed that (at least here in the LA South Bay--where I lived for the first 22 years of my life) most of the metalheads I know are Latino (which could be confirmation bias). These two notions obviously don't mix, so which is right?

Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jul 3, 2013

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Feb 19, 2007


Ponsonby Britt posted:

Unrelated: what opinion do people have of the Los Angeles Times? Vegas has two papers, one of which is underfunded, and the other is semi-underfunded and has an insane libertarian editorial slant. The Times occasionally does reporting on Vegas issues, and they seem well-done and unbiased, but I don't know enough about it to accurately judge.

The Times is a good paper. It's got that same neoliberal bent that most US papers have (and in my opinion wastes way too much space on food and fashion and real estate), but it's a good rag. The only US daily I've seen with better international coverage is the New York Times, although it's still pretty sparse.

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Feb 19, 2007


Trabisnikof posted:

The problem is there are no good California newspapers, so the LA Times just has to do. Maybe the Sacramento Bee for number 2.

That may be why I said it was good: I only have Idaho papers to compare it to.

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Feb 19, 2007


Rah! posted:

Green chile is great, but what is with people thinking dumb things about Mexican food in CA? CA Mexican food is for the most part not like tex mex. And much of it is pretty drat authentic and not "for white people", as you put it (yet poo poo tons of white people eat it anyways! :monocle:), while plenty more of it is Americanized "white people food". Which makes perfect sense, seeing as CA has millions of Mexicans and millions of non-hispanic white people. In fact, there are as many hispanic/latino people (mostly Mexican) in California now as there are non-hispanic white people. In a few years, non-hispanic whites will be a minority in CA.

Prediction: in 50 years Hispanic whites will just be whites and mestizos will still be Mexicans. :freep:

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


It's happened in America before with all the European minorities. A few generations in and they're white because white is a made up category that you're basically in if your skin is between 'moonstone' and 'uncooked bagel' in tone and you don't have a funny accent.

edit: Oh, and you've got to pronounce your last name wrong. My last name is Dutch and should sound like a guy clearing his throat and puking at the same time, but it's been watered down to a boring series of sounds.

I used to know this Japanese-descended guy whose last name was O'Hara because the guy at immigration couldn't pronounce Okata when his great--grandparents came through.

Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jul 16, 2013

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Feb 19, 2007



Huh-what? Numbered roads get 'the,' but PCH is just PCH. Might be 'cuz it's a surface street in my hometown though.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


All Californian politics are hopelessly corrupt: fun with the LAPD.

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Feb 19, 2007


I doubt small-town departments have their own freaky semi-secret intelligence wing.

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Feb 19, 2007


Seems like the only thing that can keep housing affordable is a citywide crime wave. :getin:

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Feb 19, 2007


FRINGE posted:

If you seize the food, the water, and the shelter, you get an entire country of voluntary slaves. I am sure no one thought of this and its all just an accident. :kiddo:

I'm fairly certain no one did. It's just the end result of competition. Businesses gradually outcompete individuals, then turn on each other until a few huge landowners are left. It's mostly unintentional but it goes to reason that the most ruthless businesses will be the ones to prosper unless someone demonstrates honest, non-exploitative behavior that brings greater quarterly profits. California may be closer to end-stage capitalism than the South.

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Feb 19, 2007


etalian posted:

It's still really hard to get things going such as better mass transit for things such as convincing people to fund new projects since similar to Detroit LA became a pretty car focused city.

Shouldn't this right here be encouragement enough to change?

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Feb 19, 2007


We're doing pretty good, considering we've got all the sprawl of London without having built subways since the 1860s. And that we ripped out our functional-enough trolley lines after the auto-makers bought 'em. What's good for GM is bad for Los Angeles, I say. :wotwot:

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Feb 19, 2007


Leperflesh posted:

Courthouses do not usually anchor nice business districts. They attract bail bondsmen, pawn shops, and payday loan sharks.

Also at least one lawyer bar. Be prepared for a lot of drunk and litigious behavior.

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Feb 19, 2007


Xaris posted:

Thank loving god that the BART strike was averted for now. Last time really put a loving huge damper in my week and was extremely stressful all around; I felt extremely bad for the working poor that have to get between multiple jobs and may not be flexible with hours. I hope BART is able to come to an agreement soon and I think the unions are overall coming out looking a little better than they did during the last PR battle but a lot of people I talk to while waiting for buses/trains often expressed anger at the workers and seemed to buy into the whole 'they make too much money!' right-wing bias despite being otherwise liberal people. I think I only encountered one other person that sympathized with the union and it's quite depressing reading a lot of comments as they read like Freepers :(

Bay Area: leftist until inconvenienced. Hartley-Taft is such bullshit. If the whole city had struck in solidarity they coulda got things sorted within a week.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Here's a little something I was wondering: how well-represented are the non-latino immigrant communities in California?

For that matter, who are they? Japanese? Chinese? I noticed a ton of Armenians where I used to live but I think they're pretty thin on the ground once you get away from the westerly parts of LA county.

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Feb 19, 2007


Ron Jeremy posted:

And I said, "if you're going to use water..." The real solution is density. One park can have a professionally maintained lawn in walking distance of a bunch of medium density apartment buildings. Same thing for pools.

And about pools. In my town there is a huge racial divide, almost literally dictated by the train tracks. The old public city pool is on the wrong side of the tracks and nobody can seem to find money to keep it open. On the other side of town, a brand new high school opened with a kiddie wading pool and water slides tacked on to its aquatic facility and opened to the public for $7/person/day. The school district maps are almost comically drawn to keep the gated rich people in one set of schools and the mexican folks in the other.

...Torrance? I'd have guessed Redondo but we only have one public high school.

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Feb 19, 2007


cheese posted:

In CA it is done by the county Sherrifs office. The difficulty ranges from "they will ask you if you are a bad dude and if you say no, rubber stamp a yes" to "NO ONE GETS A LICENSE" in some of the bay area and so cal counties. There is actually a website that tracks acceptance rates and in a lot of the far north and central valley counties, its upwards of 90% approval.

Let's not forget why California banned open carry in the first place, though. Widespread police brutality targeting the black populace led to armed groups of Panthers following police to any arrest they made and watching with rifles strapped to their backs. For a brief time, police activity became slightly more civil. Then the CA supreme court or the legislature (can't remember which) banned open carry.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


In terms of grime, how does the BART compare to the Paris metro? Because the sights and smells there made the LA system seem pristine as a daisy to me.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Seriously, the state would do so well with a mix of nuke plants and solar (and wind) if we weren't so heavily in the grips of the oil magnates. I love that they've managed to suborn knee-jerk liberals to keep pumping those sweet petrochemical profits.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Well, what about like Death Valley and other assorted deserts? Not like they're good for much in the way of human use. And you can stick wind turbines on just about any hill not occupied by a NIMBY.

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Feb 19, 2007


Leperflesh posted:

Rooftop solar seems to be a big thing these days and I like it for generating power locally (no transmission losses). It's not enough to replace centralized power generation by a long shot, but it helps.

What's more efficient in terms of energy saved, rooftop solar waterheating or rooftop PV generators?

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


If it makes it through the legislature, is Brown gonna sign or veto? I hate to ask the question but after his prison shenanigans...

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Feb 19, 2007


Lycus posted:

I think it's okay to say it if you're a newsperson on TV or something, but I've never used it in conversation and would never say "I'm for SoCal."

Speaking as a Southern Californian, we generally refer to county/city. At least, we do in LA. What's that? You're from Hermosa? gently caress that. Say you're from LA (anyone not from LA/California believes it).

Never said "socal" except to differentiate myself from those hella weird norcal folks.

True story, Disneyland grad night back in 07, in the line for either Splash or Space Mountain, I run into a white guy in full SS regalia. I played CoD, recognized the uniform. I say "Is that an SS uniform?" and he's like "Yep!" He thinks he's found a kindred spirit, strikes up a conversation. I'm scared shitless of the Nazi who has the balls to rock an SS uniform on grad night so I play along (a coward in D&D? shocking). He says "where you from" I go "LA" he says "I'm from [shitburg]". I can't remember the name, and didn't recognize it then either. I ask where that is and he says "you haven't heard of [shitburg]? Dude, it's the meth capital of California."

The part that weirded me out was that he didn't say it matter-of-factly or with any sense of embarrassment. He was dead proud of his town's title of Meth Capital of California. He sounded like some kind of small-town civic booster when he said it.

Soured me on the Norcal for a long drat time.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I could imagine a hypothetical state split in which the primary contentious issue is who gets stuck with Fresno.

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Feb 19, 2007


Oh good god. :20bux: says the Legislature gets all shat up with gun laws instead of rebuilding the welfare state.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I heard that if they actually bothered to make their irrigation efficient they'd still be doing good. True/false?

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Feb 19, 2007


Dusseldorf posted:

No it doesn't.

You haven't lived until you've eaten sketchy kebab from of a converted-shopping cart grill. :iheartla:

The chromium really gives it a zing.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


There's been a pretty consistent effort to divert CA state money to inferior charter schools for a while now: man I wish NSFWcorp was still around. Efforts to bring in charter schools have included threatening undocumented immigrants with the INS to guarantee support.

edit: that is not the article I meant to link. Fixing now.

edit 2: Link fixed!

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Feb 19, 2007


FRINGE posted:

Any realistic map would have a guarded barrier built around OC. :madmax:

We must push Palos Verdes into the sea!

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Hey, LA folks? I'm quoting this thread from E/N because it's about someone getting bored in LA. Maybe you could offer your suggestions to the OP.

Captain Gordon posted:

Recently I got an opportunity to work for a videogame company in Los Angeles and I jumped on it without a second thought. I had absolutely no problem leaving the shithole I have been living in for the past 13 years - Dublin, Ireland.

Things have been relatively well and good for 7 month that I have been here. As you can imagine, the culture shock of moving from a tiny provincial town (which Dublin is in comparecent to LA) to bursting metropolis in US of A was something to get used to, and making friends with people I didn't grow up with wasn't easy either. To tell the truth, even though I am surrounded by good and interesting people I honestly cannot count them among my close friends, and most of my relationships at the minute feel like friendships of convenience at best. It is getting better, but it is a slow process, even if when we have a lot of interests in common.

Eventually, my wife who I love very much joined me here and things have been rather hard on her. Unlike me, she actually likes Ireland, even though she is not deceiving herself about the current economic state of the country and lack of any prospect for a career or personal development there. She genuinely does want to give this move a go.

That said, she is going through a massive culture and social shock. Unlike me, my wife is very outgoing and really likes unusual socially engaging events. I am sorry if that sounds dry and dumb as gently caress, but I am having a hard time describing something that lies somewhere in between a ragged house party and a gig. She likes going to odd meetups and ends, underground punk gigs, historical festivals, speakeasy bars and that kind of thing.

I enjoy pretty much all of the above as well, but the main difference between us is that I do not go out of my way to find those things. If they pop up on my radar and I can make it, sweet, but I do not actively seek them out myself and therefore I do not have a specific approach, formula or a magic bullet for finding them. My wife made a huge effort to network in Dublin and it was extremely easy for her to find her crowd and what she wanted to do as a result, even though it took a long time for her to develop those relationships.

I know that my wife gets super upset when she has nothing to do, as we both went through a shut-in period in Ireland which lead to us breaking up, because for a while we became a boring as gently caress couple that never did anything. That wasn't always the case though, things just got hard because of jobs and renting bullshit that was going on the time. Its all water under the bridge, but the clear lesson learned from that situation is that a docile lifestyle isn't for us.

I can see that she is very scared of everything rolling back to THAT time and that she is worried about our future on top of going through normal fears that come with moving a country. This fear leaves her in kind of emotional paralysis where she is too depressed to meet new people or get out of the house, even. I do my best to take her out to see places in the evenings and introduce her to my friends, which helps a little bit, but I would be fooling myself if I said right now that everything would be fine if this status quo continued. I recon that until she finds her group of friends she wont be happy no matter what I do.

And yes, you have read it correctly, it has only been 2 weeks for her, just barely. I know that this is too short of a time frame to make any solid judgement on the situation, but I am worried nonetheless. I also have a probably irrational fear of getting along here, because most of the people I have met here, while fun and interesting, are terribly lazy and clique-y and not at all inclusive of newcomers.

So, tl;dr

- Wife and I moved to Los Angeles from Ireland :usa:
- Wife likes going out and doing things that aren't shopping or vegetating on the beach
- I am relatively new here and do not know a lot of places to go and things to do
- Wife is depressed about moving countries and is homesick; is not very outgoing or curious as a result
- I am worried about her and cannot physically drag her out of the house every day because I have a full time job

Do you guys have any advice for me?

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Since we're in T&T now, maybe you guys could help me out. My dad's in LA right now, and he's probably gonna get bored pretty quick. Is there any fun poo poo you guys might recommend for a guy that lived and worked in LA for ~50 years? Think of things your parents/grandparents might enjoy but wouldn't have heard about without your help.

Odds are good he's just gonna track down his buddies and play geriatric volleyball in Hermosa for a week or two but maybe he can broaden his horizons.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I don't know if these are common down south but if there are any Torrance-type areas (high populations of both asians and latinos) you might luck out and find a teryaki place that does a teryaki burrito. There's a place out by El Camino College on the Torrance/Gardena border that does an amazing version in chicken or beef. Golden Bowl, I think. Hope they're still in business.

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Feb 19, 2007


Wait, do they still actually sell fish there? Thought it was basically a tourist trap now.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0JZszqC7mk


Why did he never run for office, anyway? You know he could have got his rear end elected.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


For someone from the LA area, what does the Tenderloin most closely compare to? Gardena? Lawndale? Compton?

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I dunno. Ever had a teryaki burrito before? There are a few Mexican and/or Chinese places in Torrance/Gardena that do them. Delicious teryaki chicken slathered in teryaki sauce and salsa picante wrapped in American cheese and rice and served hot in a rolled flour tortilla. Tell me that's anything less than amazing.

If you're in San Francisco you may never know its glory :smith:.

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Feb 19, 2007


With the way housing's going in SF, maybe a lefty Democrat will take it. Fingers crossed and all that.

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Feb 19, 2007


FCKGW posted:

Don't you think your being a tad hyperbolic when cautioning someone that living in LA will cause them to get shot by the police?

Only cop I ever saw shoot an unarmed, unresisting man was LAPD. Don't know what he was doing in Gardena; they have their own department.

Anecdotes are not statistics but that made a very strong impression on ol' me.

I mean, he was a French-speaking black guy, so if you're white or at least not black or latino or Tongan you're probably pretty safe.

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Feb 19, 2007


BeeSeeBee posted:

A can of sweetened condensed milk and a few hours on the stove*?

*or one of the many other ways to make it.

http://www.chow.com/recipes/28374-dulce-de-leche
Here's what seems like a real easy-street recipe so long as you've got an hour and a half to kill.

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